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At this point, I would rather Apple continue to keep the charging port underneath the mouse just to keep irritating the haters.
He has no time to redesign the magic mouse anyway, he is busy transferring his past design philosophy to the upcoming Apple Car, found this prototype leak on the net.

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The current model charges to a full days use in 2 minutes. 120 seconds.

I doubt I could even find replacement batteries in that time.

My rechargeables are in a desk drawer under the mouse (in my home office). I also use a rechargeable magic mouse (at work) and it definitely doesn’t charge meaningfully in 2 minutes. You must have a magic Magic Mouse.
 
Wow, there are a lot of judgy comments in the thread today. Chins, foreheads, what's next...sideburns? Or would that just be a mullet?

I feel so bad for the people here that were so happy that Ive didn't touch this new iMac.
Haha, that was so funny, and right after that thread from yesterday.
I don't see this as a big deal. This kind of thing happens all the time in business.
Yep, for sure!
"most people"

are we just throwing out random assertions now with absolutely 0 data?
Yes we are, and it's okay. Just say everybody else is wrong, and if you can't say it with enough conviction, then just insult them.
You’re going to see his influence until he dies or retires. His company is hired by apple to provide consulting services.
This is probably true.
I’ve yet to meet anyone who doesn’t find the white bezel and huge chin incredibly ugly.
I don't find the white bezel and chin ugly at all. Hi, I'm Flight Plan and it's nice to meet you!
I’ve also heard “that was 100% designed for women” multiple times, lol.
They tried to pull this on men who drove Miatas and then Priuses. Until they met me and I called them out on their judgy. Then they backed down. Hi, I'm Flight Plan and it's nice to meet you!
I don’t find it ugly.
Neither do I! How long until we're "most people" again?
I guess we haven’t met…
Hi, I'm Flight Plan and it's nice to meet you!
I haven’t heard that. I have seen it on these forums though. It is a very chauvinistic statement.
Real men can even wear pink and not feel that our masculinity is being threatened. What's wimpy is that "drone business uniform" that most men wear, EVEN DURING COVID!

Come on, you know it: Baby blue shirt with tan pants. You wear it at least twice a week.

Nothing says, "I've turned in my man card" like baby blue on tan. But hey, way to own it!
Welcome to the MR forums. No matter what Apple does, people flock here by the thousands to say how terrible it is. Meanwhile, millions go out and buy the products (probably some overlap there too).
Naah, it's more like the 5 people on Twitter.
I don't think I saw a single person say that.
There was a thread yesterday where A BIG OLE' MESS O' PEEPS were saying they were glad he was gone. Either you missed it or you didn't read for retention. 😉

In reality, what does it even matter? The design is what it is! Love it, hate it. Buy it, Leave it. The numbers will tell Apple what it needs to know. THE END!
I think your comment makes the most sense. I have stuff to do, so when the machines become available, I don't plan to let some minor design queue stop me from being successful.

Imagine if Bob Ross decided he didn't like "happy little trees" and decided to quit because of that. Imagine if Eric Clapton decided he didn't like silver frets on a guitar and decided to quit because of that. Or if Michael Angelo had decided that he hated marble because it had flaws in it, or that ceiling was just too ornate.

My point is, everybody here seems to have all kinds of faux reasons to say "no" to success.
I'm relieved to find out Ive was involved.

I was one of those customers who was happy to hear Ive left Apple and was also highly disappointed by stupid short-sighted design choices with the new M1 iMac that left me frustrated thinking nothing "really good" can ever come from Apple again until every current designer has left the company.

But now I can point the finger back at Ive and focus my frustration at him - so thank you for this article!
Own it, brother, own it!
I could have sworn I heard 'buy me buy me now' coming forth boldly from the chin.

*He says as he looks fondly at the Tonka Dump Truck sitting in the corner of the room with the rest of the colorful fisher price / Tonka / Lincoln Logs toys.
I had the yellow Tonka dump truck, and I think there was a Tonka log hauler too (maybe red or orange?), designed to carry those Lincoln Logs down from the mountain top to the imaginary lake on the living room floor where my 10 year old self was preparing to build my cabin!

I didn't let design queues stop me from building the most fab Lincoln Log home ever seen on my block, and later I didn't let design queues stop me from building the coolest space ships out of my Legos, which were all red, white, blue, or clear, and all rectangular. No fancy curved pieces for THIS kid. I had a functioning imagination, which may have been the greatest gift that my parents could have encouraged in me and my siblings!
 
I just find it infuriatingly inaccurate and unpredictable. The speed and acceleration profiles are a calamity. Tried getting to grips with it on a few occasions. I finally gave up when I read that you might need to start entering terminal commands in order to make it work like a mouse…
Oh, I didn't even get that far, just gave up when it felt like a slippery little piece of soap in my hand.
 
There needs to be "this is impossible in real life" disclaimer on the iMac commercial that the screen image is imaginary, or the lack of a power cord is imaginary, because it doesn't have a battery like an iPad does. Lots of people look at it and think "iPad on a Stand" and will be surprised that it has to be plugged in to turn on.
I’m looking forward to pop off iMacs as soon I see them. Even at work i will do this, if they show up.

Will be a nice running gag…
If they moan around, I‘ll just say:
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it definitely doesn’t charge meaningfully in 2 minutes
It definitely does, and the same thing has been reported by numerous others on this forum.

Yours might be faulty, which is unfortunate, but not a legitimate complaint about the charging time of the mouse.

I don't complain about the battery in my car being too hard to charge everywhere I park it, because my alternator is ****ed.
 
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It definitely does, and the same thing has been reported by numerous others on this forum.

Yours might be faulty, which is unfortunate, but not a legitimate complaint about the charging time of the mouse.

I don't complain about the battery in my car being too hard to charge everywhere I park it, because my alternator is ****ed.

No, but you’d complain if jump staring the battery in your car required turning it upside down on its roof.

It’s a stupid design. Defend it all you like, but it’s stupid.
 
And yet the Magic Trackpad works fine plugged in. So does the magic keyboard.

The issue is simply that there was no flat edge on the top for the plug to go there, and Apple decided that rather than slightly redesign the mouse to have a vertical surface at the top under the clickpad, they would instead do the easy and horrendously user-hostile thing and stick the socket on the bottom surface, thereby rendering the mouse LESS useful than the prior, replaceable battery, version - at least with the old ones you could replace the batteries and keep working (at the cost of a battery cover that constantly pops off on its own).

Ah I see. I wasn’t aware of this. I’m still using the OG keyboard & trackpad that use AA batteries.
 
It definitely does, and the same thing has been reported by numerous others on this forum.

Yours might be faulty, which is unfortunate, but not a legitimate complaint about the charging time of the mouse.

I don't complain about the battery in my car being too hard to charge everywhere I park it, because my alternator is ****ed.
Then Apple musst have build a few million of faulty devices…

To the lawyers … new lawsuit please, Thanks!
 
Ah I see. I wasn’t aware of this. I’m still using the OG keyboard & trackpad that use AA batteries.

I have a set of rechargeable keyboard/mouse/trackpad, and 2 sets of the battery-operated version (both the 3-battery keyboard and the 2-battery version, in fact). The rechargeable keyboard and trackpad are great. And plugging them in to the computer also pairs them, which is nice. The mouse is, every 6-9 months, a pain, whenever you need to charge. For the battery-operated ones i can just rotate in the next pair of rechargeable batteries, which takes 15 seconds. No need to flip it on its back like a helpless turtle and wait.
 
No, but you’d complain if jump staring the battery in your car required turning it upside down on its roof.

Yeah, but that's mostly because my car weighs significantly more than my mouse. Definitely more than I can lift. It's also got liquids and a bunch of loose stuff inside it. My mouse, not so much.


It’s a stupid design. Defend it all you like, but it’s stupid.
And you're entitled to your opinion.
 
Yeah, but that's mostly because my car weighs significantly more than my mouse. Definitely more than I can lift. It's also got liquids and a bunch of loose stuff inside it. My mouse, not so much.



And you're entitled to your opinion.
The latest magic mouse is definitely not „form follows function“
 
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Actually they could build a Pro Stand for motherboard, RAM. M1 Chip and Storage, Only keep the screen close full size ( a whole thing looks like Pro Display XDR ) , Maybe we can see another iMac Pro late this year.
 
Actually they could build a Pro Stand for motherboard, RAM. M1 Chip and Storage, Only keep the screen close full size ( a whole thing looks like Pro Display XDR ) , Maybe we can see another iMac Pro late this year.

Wouldn’t surprise me at all to see a cheese-greater style all-in-one at some point. Not really necessary unless they put the same CPU/GPU in there that is rumored for the mini-mac pro.
 
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Wow, there are a lot of judgy comments in the thread today. Chins, foreheads, what's next...sideburns? Or would that just be a mullet?


Haha, that was so funny, and right after that thread from yesterday.

Yep, for sure!

Yes we are, and it's okay. Just say everybody else is wrong, and if you can't say it with enough conviction, then just insult them.

This is probably true.

I don't find the white bezel and chin ugly at all. Hi, I'm Flight Plan and it's nice to meet you!

They tried to pull this on men who drove Miatas and then Priuses. Until they met me and I called them out on their judgy. Then they backed down. Hi, I'm Flight Plan and it's nice to meet you!

Neither do I! How long until we're "most people" again?

Hi, I'm Flight Plan and it's nice to meet you!

Real men can even wear pink and not feel that our masculinity is being threatened. What's wimpy is that "drone business uniform" that most men wear, EVEN DURING COVID!

Come on, you know it: Baby blue shirt with tan pants. You wear it at least twice a week.

Nothing says, "I've turned in my man card" like baby blue on tan. But hey, way to own it!

Naah, it's more like the 5 people on Twitter.

There was a thread yesterday where A BIG OLE' MESS O' PEEPS were saying they were glad he was gone. Either you missed it or you didn't read for retention. 😉


I think your comment makes the most sense. I have stuff to do, so when the machines become available, I don't plan to let some minor design queue stop me from being successful.

Imagine if Bob Ross decided he didn't like "happy little trees" and decided to quit because of that. Imagine if Eric Clapton decided he didn't like silver frets on a guitar and decided to quit because of that. Or if Michael Angelo had decided that he hated marble because it had flaws in it, or that ceiling was just too ornate.

My point is, everybody here seems to have all kinds of faux reasons to say "no" to success.

Own it, brother, own it!

I had the yellow Tonka dump truck, and I think there was a Tonka log hauler too (maybe red or orange?), designed to carry those Lincoln Logs down from the mountain top to the imaginary lake on the living room floor where my 10 year old self was preparing to build my cabin!

I didn't let design queues stop me from building the most fab Lincoln Log home ever seen on my block, and later I didn't let design queues stop me from building the coolest space ships out of my Legos, which were all red, white, blue, or clear, and all rectangular. No fancy curved pieces for THIS kid. I had a functioning imagination, which may have been the greatest gift that my parents could have encouraged in me and my siblings!
My post was not against the new iMac. I think it looks fine. My post was tongue in cheek against those who have said the new iMac looks childish etc.
 
ALL IN ONE - Doesn't work if it's not all in one does it.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp surely.
That’s never been what all-in-one means. It’s an all-in-one if the keyboard isn’t integrated, right? And the mouse? Surely the transformer is of less consequence than those things. (And, of course, all-in-ones used to actually have the keyboard as part of the device).
 
I’ve yet to meet anyone who doesn’t find the white bezel and huge chin incredibly ugly.

I’ve also heard “that was 100% designed for women” multiple times, lol.

I’ve yet to meet anyone who is actually bothered by the white bezel - including people who are massively into photography and would edit their work on this.

The chin makes this instantly recognizable for what it is. Without it, it’s a generic screen. With it, you instantly know it’s an iMac.

And that “designed for women” bit is bordering on sexism IMO.
 
What is Ive's obsession with slimness? Why always form over function? Seriously, maybe it's an architecture issue with the M1 but the previous gen Intel MBA's have 2 USB C. The MBP doesn't have an SD Card slot or HDMI output.

The design itself I have no issue with, but the lack of ports, whyyyy????????
 


Despite leaving the company in 2019, Apple's former chief design officer, Jony Ive, helped design the new 24-inch iMac, according to an excerpt from Wired's review of the new desktop computer.

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Jony Ive famously left Apple in 2019 to form his own independent design company, which would have Apple as one of its clients. During his tenure at Apple, Ive oversaw the development and design of revolutionary products, including the iPhone, iPad, iPod, MacBook, and the iMac.

Apple confirmed to Wired that Ive did indeed work on the new iMac but stopped short of confirming or denying whether his own firm, LoveFrom, aided Apple in designing the computer after he left the company.
The 24-inch iMac is the first redesign to the iMac in years, featuring a significantly thinner design, the M1 Apple silicon chip, and comes in seven vibrant colors. Learn more about the 24-inch iMac using our guide.

Article Link: Jony Ive Was Involved in the New M1 iMac Design, Despite Leaving Apple in 2019
Lol I knew it!!


Jony Ive has been instrumental to anything called iMac or Mac all in ones since the TAM!
 
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