Jony Ive Was Involved in the New M1 iMac Design, Despite Leaving Apple in 2019

[Flight Plan]

He has no time to redesign the magic mouse anyway, he is busy transferring his past design philosophy to the upcoming Apple Car, found this prototype leak on the net.

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No no no, the car charger is going to be a massive QI platform built into the floor of your garage and you just park over the top of it! Just as soon as they solve the massive heat problem so that people don't be getting their cats cooked while the family is out driving around at Legoland or in the forest, that is.

#catburgersshouldn'tbeathingevenifyoudon'tlikecats

My post was not against the new iMac. I think it looks fine. My post was tongue in cheek against those who have said the new iMac looks childish etc.

Oh, I know. It's because I read for retention!

My first reaction "Of course he was involved"

However, I wouldn't have guessed it right off the bat just sitting here. He ought to design/create coffee mugs or glasses. Or even straight jackets for when I go insane.

We don't need individual straight jackets. We need enough for whole comments forums at a time!

I think the new 24" M1 iMac's are great though and I wouldn't mind having the top tier model donated to me.

Me, I'm hoping that somebody'll donate a Tesla AND BMW to me. Because I want electric AND gas powered vehicles. Oh, and I'd like to have a garage big enough for both. Thanks!

Once upon a time, the iPhone was derided for not having a hardware keyboard and the MacBook Air laughed at for lacking just about every other port.

You remember that time too, huh?

I applaud Apple for daring to challenge the status quo and getting people to rethink just what it is they value in a product. Are features like ports and an internal power supply really non-negotiable in a desktop, or are they too subject to changing whims and values?

This is why God invented hubs. Okay, it wasn't God who invented them, but he allowed for their invention and that counts for something!

Can Apple make people indifferent to having just 2 usb c ports in a desktop, and care more about thinness than they do about the Ethernet cable going into the power brick as opposed to the back of the computer?

Maybe. Maybe not. But it’s fascinating watching this cognitive dissonance play out in front of me.

I popped some popcorn for this show, want some?

Run my business on wifi 6 with large up and downloads. No problems so far, but hard wiring always wins.

Which doesn't necessarily mean that WiFi loses. This is where all our judgy (yes, that's how I've decided to spell it) goes into crazyland. We've been trained to self-polarize at the drop of a hat, and now we do it without even being asked!

 

[Pearple]

Ive without Jobs is like moules frites, without the moules and without the frites.

To take the power source out of the device, to "outsource" the ethernet port, to come up with these pastel nightmare colors the two-tone ugliness and the mandatory white bezels on top are -seen as the full package that it is- an utter DESIGN FAIL.

As if this was not enough, the bean counter CFO -now accidentally elected CEO- decided to kill intel processor Macs and to end Bootcamp.

The iMac was the company's core product, as it now failed, the once praised leading company of industrial design heads towards a second era of dark times. I have been Apple's customer since 1994 and I can tell, that Cook is no different than Scully. He ignores, what the core of the users want, what the professional customers really need. Instead, the company focuses on TOYS.

Don't ask me what happened, when Apple will hit rock bottom. I will just tell You: I told You so.

 

[nottorp]

In hindsight, power bricks and moving the ethernet out did smell like Ive's fetishes.

Don't ask me what happened, when Apple will hit rock bottom. I will just tell You: I told You so.

I don't know though, the sad truth is they don't really have competition.

 

[MJBCA]

Apple often leaves little clues in the design of their products that hint at how the designers envision them being used.

My guess as to the placement of the charge port:

1) Apple doesn’t want the lightning port to mar the unbroken finish of the top of the mouse. It just wants a continuous curve of glass on top. Hence its position at the bottom where it can’t be seen or even felt while in use.

Meanwhile, Apple expects you to charge it so infrequently that it’s a non-issue in the greater scheme of things.

2) Apple doesn’t want people to use their mouse while charging, in keeping with the whole wireless theme.

I am not saying that Apple’s design decisions are the absolute right ones, but it goes to show there is a method to the madness that many people either don’t see, or refuse to acknowledge.

This! Imagine how many people
Would ALWAYS keep their Magic Mouses connected just to avoid having to charge it from time to time.
Apple does NOT want people using the mouse wired. And I agree with them, thank goodness their CORRECT design makes it impossible for my mum to keep her Magic Mouse connected at all times like a Windows computer from 1990s.

 

[catean]

Instead, the company focuses on TOYS.

That is, because the market is inundated with childlike behaviour. We are becoming, as humanity, more shallow every day. It scares me when I hear that Chinese kids ard learning coding and maths from early age, while western kids record farts and idiocracy like behaviour on TikTok, which is a chinese app. I am only 36, I am from a poor eastern european country, but I grew with Basic, Pascal, Fox-Pro, C, MS-Dos, and we were tought electronics in secondary school. I repaired my own computer, changed capacitors on my MoBo and Power Source. It’s scary what I see today and Apple is not helping from my oppinion, they just feed the trend of idiocratisation.

 

[Stephen.R]

these pastel nightmare colors

If you're having trouble sleeping because of the colour of a computer, please seek medical help.

 

[fuchsdh]

Ive without Jobs is like moules frites, without the moules and without the frites.

To take the power source out of the device, to "outsource" the ethernet port, to come up with these pastel nightmare colors the two-tone ugliness and the mandatory white bezels on top are -seen as the full package that it is- an utter DESIGN FAIL.

As if this was not enough, the bean counter CFO -now accidentally elected CEO- decided to kill intel processor Macs and to end Bootcamp.

The iMac was the company's core product, as it now failed, the once praised leading company of industrial design heads towards a second era of dark times. I have been Apple's customer since 1994 and I can tell, that Cook is no different than Scully. He ignores, what the core of the users want, what the professional customers really need. Instead, the company focuses on TOYS.

Don't ask me what happened, when Apple will hit rock bottom. I will just tell You: I told You so.

Just quoting this to highlight just how dumb a take it is, and the perfect representation of someone who really should just go out for a walk and stop fixating so much on Apple if it causes you this much bile.

Design fail? Doesn't look like the critics agree.

Time Cook was "accidentally" elected CEO? Was there a Golden Ticket contest at Apple I didn't hear about?

The iMac has failed? Citation needed.

Ways the Cook era is different than Scully: Apple is far more successful now than when Cook took over, and he's lasted just as long as Sculley without running the company into the ground. Hmm. Almost like the two executives are not comparable.

"I have lots of opinions but I don't actually commit to when Apple will hit rock bottom because that would require me to do something but run my mouth and offer something that can even more easily be refuted".

Again: if you hate everything about Apple and have for a decade, why the hell are you here? Who do you think is salivating at the chance to read what Pearple thinks?

 

[I7guy]

Nope. just their products. This thin above all else design mentality has created garbage products.

Yes, in your opinion. (in which you are totally and completely entitled to)

 

[Trenches]

Not surprising. The new design has Ive’s fingerprints all over it - from the unnecessary thinness in a desktop (thus forcing the headphone jack to be on the side of the machine and the Ethernet port to be a part of the power adapter), to the dearth of ports, to the white bezels around the screen.

That being said, it is a beautiful machine - Jony Ives’ designs have always been beautiful. I just still wish there was less a focus on making things thin and light and more on repair and upgradability. Alas, that ship has thoroughly sailed at this point.

You're not wrong in saying this. I think there's an end game to the thinness though. When you start making things incredibly thin, you start to blur the boundaries between a piece of hardware and the world around you. I think that's a pretty noble objective. It can't happen all at once without progressive innovation to the form factor.

But yeah, that fugly white bezel and vom color palette is all I needed to make it a hellz naw. Display is impressive, but the unspoken word is that it just looks like a sissy machine. That's cutting a big slice out of the market while other people dance around it by talking up the potentiality of a pro model.

 

[Stephen.R]

but the unspoken word is that it just looks like a sissy machine

If you feel your masculinity is threatened because of the colour of a computer, please seek medical help.

 

[Flight Plan]

That is, because the market is inundated with childlike behaviour. We are becoming, as humanity, more shallow every day. It scares me when I hear that Chinese kids ard learning coding and maths from early age, while western kids record farts and idiocracy like behaviour on TikTok, which is a chinese app. I am only 36, I am from a poor eastern european country, but I grew with Basic, Pascal, Fox-Pro, C, MS-Dos, and we were tought electronics in secondary school. I repaired my own computer, changed capacitors on my MoBo and Power Source. It’s scary what I see today and Apple is not helping from my oppinion, they just feed the trend of idiocratisation.

This is not Apple's fault.

If you're having trouble sleeping because of the colour of a computer, please seek medical help.

I say avoid all colors!

Just quoting this to highlight just how dumb a take it is, and the perfect representation of someone who really should just go out for a walk and stop fixating so much on Apple if it causes you this much bile.

Design fail? Doesn't look like the critics agree.

Time Cook was "accidentally" elected CEO? Was there a Golden Ticket contest at Apple I didn't hear about?

The iMac has failed? Citation needed.

The judgy is fused with hyperbole and polarized to the point where if you get too close to it, it rewrites the part of your brain that allows you to get along with other humans.

And you're right, he should just go out for a walk. In fact, we probably all should go out for a walk! Let's see if we can make MacRumors go for an hour without a single post made to any thread!

...

Again: if you hate everything about Apple and have for a decade, why the hell are you here? Who do you think is salivating at the chance to read what Pearple thinks?

Yep. I choose to think that Apple's future is brighter than ever, especially with the new ARM architecture. Design is design. Who cares if the Ethernet cable plugs into the power brick? In the office, everybody is using WIFI. Nobody is special these days; not even my manager's manager's manager! If anything, she's working from her palace of a home anyway. And she's probably on WIFI there too!

 

[Flight Plan]

If you feel your masculinity is threatened because of the colour of a computer, please seek medical help.

And to think that some people are color-blind. They might think it would be a blessing to be able to see all of the colors in the spectrum.

No, in this case, it may just be that psychological help is what's needed.

 

[Stephen.R]

judgy

What word are you trying to use here? This isn't sarcasm or snark. I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say.

 

[Flight Plan]

Judgy, oh come on, you can't tell that it's a made up word referring to how so many people here get all high-and-mighty about bezels and ports and chinny-chin-chins?

Judgy (pronounced "judgie" or "judgey", depending on your accent). 😉

 

[Notfroggy]

i always wander why, since the comments here seem to consist of largely hating on anything apple does, these people are reading the site?

if you hate apple products so much go find something better to do.

I personally think the new iMac is a spectacularly good design. I will buy one for Sure just because it will give me pleasure just to look at it (and it will excel at all the use cases I have).

 

[iPadified]

So many misses the point of the 24 inch. For the intended use case (offices, front desks, point of sales, homes, students dorms) the design and functional choices are excellent. It is virtually for those that need a laptop with a large screen.

If we see the same design choices for the larger iMac, then some of the criticisms are valid In my opinion.

 

[Flight Plan]

i always wander why, since the comments here seem to consist of largely hating on anything apple does, these people are reading the site?

if you hate apple products so much go find something better to do.

I personally think the new iMac is a spectacularly good design. I will buy one for Sure just because it will give me pleasure just to look at it (and it will excel at all the use cases I have).

There's no "wandering" necessary. Or wondering either; if that's the word you were looking for.

But I will say that I support and encourage differing opinions, yes of course; even if those opinions differ from my own. I wouldn't slap somebody down for not liking a bezel color...but really, let's think about what's really important in this whole conversation, and let's cool our jets a bit on what's NOT at all important.

I'm sure my dad didn't say, "I'll never get a car because they all have chrome around the windows". No! if the family needed a car, dad would get the damned car! They ALL had chrome around the windows back then, so today's diversity of design is actually a nice thing; a welcome relief.

If somebody doesn't like colors or bezels or chins, fine! If they won't buy simply because of that, well that's on them. But man oh man, the whine is strong in these here parts!

 

[dwsolberg]

I think it's a good design, although I would have preferred thicker without a chin.

 

[SuperMatt]

ALL IN ONE - Doesn't work if it's not all in one does it.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp surely.

Better ditch the power cord.

In looking at Apple’s website, I don’t see them call it “all in one” anywhere. They just call it an iMac.

AIO is a categorization for market research firms to analyze what types of computers sell. It‘s not some absolutist concept as many here are trying to make it.

 

[SuperMatt]

And guess what, with the port being located at a different location, it could charge just as fast. This is not even an argument.

Sleek in what way? Such shallow to make it unhealthy for your back of the hand, as most neutral reviewers critically observed? Why not make it, let's say, 3mm higher, keep the gesture stuff the same and move the charging port to the lower front? Zero problem with my MX Master 3. No more need to turn it around like a silly turtle. This design is stupid enough, that it has triggered countless of memes out there. That's what I mean with defending or trying to relativize at flawed design. Maybe you should check your perception of reality first.

Where would you put the charging port on the mouse? People don’t want a bigger mouse. This one is big enough already. If you want your MX Master, great. But this mouse works for most people. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it flawed.

 

[SuperMatt]

Nope. just their products. This thin above all else design mentality has created garbage products.

Yes Apple’s products are terrible. That’s why they can’t keep them in stock and had record Mac sales last quarter. Reminds me of the old joke: “Nobody eats at that restaurant anymore; it’s too crowded.”

 

[Stephen.R]

Judgy, oh come on, you can't tell that it's a made up word referring to how so many people here get all high-and-mighty about bezels and ports and chinny-chin-chins?

Judgy (pronounced "judgie" or "judgey", depending on your accent). 😉

Do you mean like a shortened version of judgmental? I thought that at first.

But this phrase in particular made me question that guess, because it's just so odd to try and 'speak' (even internally):

The judgy is fused with hyperbole and polarized

 

[VaruLV]

Worked or not, I dont find ugly AF as I did when I first saw it. But the chin will have to go evetually tho.

 

[SuperMatt]

You're not wrong in saying this. I think there's an end game to the thinness though. When you start making things incredibly thin, you start to blur the boundaries between a piece of hardware and the world around you. I think that's a pretty noble objective. It can't happen all at once without progressive innovation to the form factor.

But yeah, that fugly white bezel and vom color palette is all I needed to make it a hellz naw. Display is impressive, but the unspoken word is that it just looks like a sissy machine. That's cutting a big slice out of the market while other people dance around it by talking up the potentiality of a pro model.

I have found that usage of the terms “fugly,” “hellz naw” and “vom color palette” generally does not correspond with qualification to judge whether something is “sissy.” And I only wish such a sentiment was “unspoken” but it’s too late now.

 

[HiVolt]

Well no wonder he was involved, the obsessive thinness (for a desktop) is a classic telltale. Removing more ports is also a classic Ive thing.