Jony Ive's AI Product 'Third Core Device' After MacBook and iPhone

[Fuzzball84]

Just imagine

Ive was walking along the beach one day and came across a pebble. I’ve picked up this pebble and thought to himself. What if I could talk to this pebble, interact with this pebble, be guided by this pebble.

I’ve placed the pebble on the table in front of Sam Altman. Altman was amazed and gave Ive billions for this idea.

😂

 

[TechWhisperer]

Apple faces yet another strategic blow. This development could fundamentally disrupt their position in the market, reminiscent of Blackberry’s downfall when they clung to physical keyboards while Apple revolutionized the industry with touchscreen technology. History may be repeating itself, but with Apple now in the vulnerable position.

Well, like I told you yesterday. So long, Apple! It’s been fun while it lasted!

 

[Veinticinco]

Apparently it’s “unapologetically going to revolutionise humanity’s interaction with itself”. And it’s already leaked folks…

 

[iZac]

The interesting (not sure if this is good or bad) thing is that in that scripted intro video, Jony was basically talking about AI as an input method for connecting to the web or a smart device. When you strip back all the Venture Capital flash and look at it strictly as a input system, you probably look more critically at how it can replace (or enhance) finger input, mouse input or keyboard input as something that is actually better or more intuitive rather than the current dross of Siri's "here's what I found on the web" or more useful than chatbots and image generation gimmicks.

The real struggle or him will be making a device with an obfuscated input method that isn't:

a) incredibly dumb - like the Humane AI pin
b) just a glorified app in a gimped smartphone - like the Rabbit R1

And if he's serious about terrible unintended consequences of smartphones becoming infinitely scrolling addiction machines, it needs to incapable to install any social media, or Youtube or Netflix or anything that just glues people to a screen.

So it really has to lean further toward the Star Trek comm badge type device, that can Bluetooth to a nearby screen when absolutely necessary.

The hardware for this is easy, but truly intuitive and reliable software for voice assistants is still worse than a keyboard and mouse, and I remember using MacinTalk 30+ years ago.

 

[diego.caraballo]

Description sounds like a microphone with positioning ability. But why ?

I agree.
There's a hint in the launch video:

"If I wanted to ask ChatGPT something right now, about something we had talked about earlier..."
Then it goes to explain that he would need to open his laptop and ask about this thing.

That makes me think that is not referring to an email or chat, but to a voice conversation.
The only way (currently) of doing that, is by recording everything, all times.

It would also include the conversational mode of ChatGPT, so it appears to be a Siri on the go (joking about Siri).
Some available products are trying to do the same:

Bee - Your new wearable personal AI

www.bee.computer

Of course, this has several privacy red flags and also lot of possible misunderstandings, but for the former, if they can compare all the recordings of the people in a meeting, that would be greatly reduced.

 

[jclardy]

My guess: Some kind of device similar in size to an iPod Nano (The clip style one.) The clip doubles as a stand to put it on your desk. Probably a small display, but it's primary purpose is "memory" - recording everything and extracting relevant details locally. The clip is the important piece, because the microphone lives on the clip, which you don't want in your pocket. Most likely bluetooth only, and requires a phone connection.

Essentially, an AI pin but not as goofy. Maybe also a camera? Probably not, I'm not sure ergonomically how you solve the positioning problem.

Apple really needs to step up. They already have a captive audience of Apple Watch users - it is the absolute ideal AI device. It has health metrics, people alredy always wear it, it already justified a microphone and has a small screen & speaker for interactions/responses, and can easily connect to airpods.

 

[QuarterSwede]

Mo' devices, mo' problems.

Not only that, instead of decreasing prices like we've normally experienced since the 90s, we're seeing a steep INCREASE in prices as the device complexity is increasing and functionality is expanding.

I'm at that stage of my life that I just long for a one device life.

Or zero. The older I get the less I want to deal with this crap.

Ive’s biggest mistake is believing it’ll make us better humans. It surely wont make us suddenly not selfish …

 

[Plerf]

I smell huge flop forthcoming.

“We’ll wean you off phones by giving you another device in your pocket.”

Yeah……no.

 

[attila]

So it's like Rabbit or Humane or Friend. All failures.

 

[Smartuser]

I could do without “off of” in an article.

 

[TwoBytes]

I'd love iif it was an iPhone with a working Siri (aka ChatGPT) ...... the thing apple was supposed to release last year but something OpenAI does quicker than Apple.

Also with Cover flow. Bring back cover flow for Music. Thanks.

 

[mxrider88]

In the meantime Apple announces stuff that doesn't know how to develop and releases new rainbow wallpapers. They will end up like blackberry, forgotten.

 

[iZac]

The last thing we need is another device to carry around with us. Smartphone, tablet, laptop, earbuds, smartglasses, smart watch, smart ring, …

Don't worry, it will be magsafe compatible

 

[Fuzzball84]

I agree.
There's a hint in the launch video:

"If I wanted to ask ChatGPT something right now, about something we had talked about earlier..."
Then it goes to explain that he would need to open his laptop and ask about this thing.

That makes me think that is not referring to an email or chat, but to a voice conversation.
The only way (currently) of doing that, is by recording everything, all times.

It would also include the conversational mode of ChatGPT, so it appears to be a Siri on the go (joking about Siri).
Some available products are trying to do the same:

Bee - Your new wearable personal AI

www.bee.computer

Of course, this has several privacy red flags and also lot of possible misunderstandings, but for the former, if they can compare all the recordings of the people in a meeting, that would be greatly reduced.

Is he still in the 00s

We all have phones, everywhere. In our pockets

What they seem to be describing is a phone 😂

 

[Silverado]

I realize I might be in the tiny minority on this one, but how people are so willing to willingly share all that information with A.I. or "A.I.", have it basically spy on you at all times and share that info with whatever servers, your whole life just open for a company or a state.

It disgusts me.

Completely agree. And people make fun of Apple because they tried to focus a lot on privacy in their AI journey and this clearly has set them back a lot against the competition which doesn’t much care about privacy.

 

[Aeronauts]

I’m intrigued to see what Jony Ive comes up with. From the description it sounds a lot like the Amazon Echo Dot.

 

[Fuzzball84]

My guess: Some kind of device similar in size to an iPod Nano (The clip style one.) The clip doubles as a stand to put it on your desk. Probably a small display, but it's primary purpose is "memory" - recording everything and extracting relevant details locally. The clip is the important piece, because the microphone lives on the clip, which you don't want in your pocket. Most likely bluetooth only, and requires a phone connection.

Essentially, an AI pin but not as goofy. Maybe also a camera? Probably not, I'm not sure ergonomically how you solve the positioning problem.

Apple really needs to step up. They already have a captive audience of Apple Watch users - it is the absolute ideal AI device. It has health metrics, people alredy always wear it, it already justified a microphone and has a small screen & speaker for interactions/responses, and can easily connect to airpods.

Why would Apple do this when they have a privacy focus. And I appreciate that privacy focus big time.

This device seems to be a personal black box recorder.

A corporate companies wet dream of knowing everything about you. No surveys, no questionnaires.

Just real time tracking 24/7/365

 

[AndyUnderscoreR]

All I can picture is a Next-Gen Furby.

I found the whole concept revolting until you said that, but now I kind of want one.

 

[Fuzzball84]

I wonder if they really got the idea from Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy when Batman uses phones and sonar to map everywhere.

In that film it was deemed unethical and the system destroyed.

 

[L92]

Their announcement of a future announcement video is the most pretentious thing I have ever seen in my life. And I watch all the Apple keynotes.

 

[Onelifenofear]

Altman is the biggest liar in tech right now, and everyone there knows it.

Except everything he is doing is hitting targets?

And Ive doesn't suffer fools or liars.

 

[AndiG]

It's already leaked ...

 

[iToph]

It is a personal holographic assistant. I’ve been testing it for quite some time and can tell: it’s worth the wait.

 

[dugbug]

so, a breakthrough internet communicator?

 

[McNoise]

It's remarkable that John hasn't learned any new marketing words since Apple. Maybe he doesn't need any more ... just a perfect picture and a beautiful location. That's exactly how you make the world curious about ... yes, what actually?