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Jony Ive's AI Product 'Third Core Device' After MacBook and iPhone
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The proof is in the pudding. I will believe it when I see it. Until then, I don’t want to hear any hype any spin.
No general consumer cares. What's next? Cutting edge sleek smart weight scales?
There was a reason his infamy began and faded rapidly with the arrival and untimely departure of Steven P. Jobs.
There was a reason his infamy began and faded rapidly with the arrival and untimely departure of Steven P. Jobs.
But we know that Ive has delivered on product before. Elon is a marketing guy, he likes grandiose talk. Ive is a designer and there is a long line of computing devices that have actually shipped.
Will it work well? That’s on the software side. But I have zero doubt Ive and his team can make shippable hardware.
im excited. I want competition. I love seeing the competition in the AI space: Gemini, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, etc. I’ve been using ChatGPT more in the world for checking labels for food sensitivities. I think I would try a little device that I can wear or put down and it can look at stuff and talk to me.
I’ll bet it’s a device you wear similarly to a popular Sci-fi series where they bop their chest to talk to other people and then it can project stuff onto your hand if you hold it ou- oh… right…
„will be capable of being fully aware of a user's surroundings and life“
Aaaaaand I‘m out!
I do not want ANY device from ANY company to be aware of my surroundings and my life!
*Sneezes*: ads for flu medication on every device.
*Sneezes twice*: health insurance will be informed that you are at higher risk of becoming a flu and thus your insurance premium will be raised.
*sighs at work*: employer being informed that you are unmotivated and should be paid less (or fired, depending on the intensity of the sigh)
Thanks, but no thank. 🙃
Aaaaaand I‘m out!
I do not want ANY device from ANY company to be aware of my surroundings and my life!
*Sneezes*: ads for flu medication on every device.
*Sneezes twice*: health insurance will be informed that you are at higher risk of becoming a flu and thus your insurance premium will be raised.
*sighs at work*: employer being informed that you are unmotivated and should be paid less (or fired, depending on the intensity of the sigh)
Thanks, but no thank. 🙃
Apple planting Ive inside Open AI is genius. Apple has the vision and the funds to leapfrog all this 1st generation faulty focus on LLM-based "AI" filled with massive error rates and instead make something useful, not just something that *looks or sounds* useful powered more by PR hype than by actual intelligence or wisdom.
Language translation is the only legit wise use-case for LLM-based text generation. The rest are expensive alphas people are conned to pay and test, instead of being paid testers.
Language translation is the only legit wise use-case for LLM-based text generation. The rest are expensive alphas people are conned to pay and test, instead of being paid testers.
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I’m excited about the possibility of a new tech device—especially with Johnny Ive and Sam Altman behind it. If anyone can make something truly groundbreaking, it’s them. Honestly, Google and Apple could use some serious competition. At this point, Apple has pretty much fumbled its approach to AI.
Actually something to look forward to in the world of tech.
Actually something to look forward to in the world of tech.
You can tell by the comments who has lived and worked through many tech bubbles, and who hasn't.
Likely just more AI slop. A device that allows OpenAI to eavesdrop on your life and sell your most private conversations for money.
Other than one of these guys being the one obsessed with 'thinness' and is who brought us the butterfly keyboard switch (that made my life hell for at least four f**king years), this seems like a match made in silicon valley.
The product has got to be something living in the interface realm because that is where ChatXYZ actually adds value by significantly moving software closer to understanding human language. (the stuff the ChatZZX clients produce is generally below grade level, but that makes sense inasmuch as the training data has to be voluminous which, by definition, includes a lot of 'chaff' and very little 'wheat'. True creativity comes in recognizing and plucking the 'wheat' from the chaff, which is something I don't see happening given the current state of machine learning. But I could be wrong and likely am.)
((please pardon the callback to days gone by, for I be an elderly type))
The product has got to be something living in the interface realm because that is where ChatXYZ actually adds value by significantly moving software closer to understanding human language. (the stuff the ChatZZX clients produce is generally below grade level, but that makes sense inasmuch as the training data has to be voluminous which, by definition, includes a lot of 'chaff' and very little 'wheat'. True creativity comes in recognizing and plucking the 'wheat' from the chaff, which is something I don't see happening given the current state of machine learning. But I could be wrong and likely am.)
((please pardon the callback to days gone by, for I be an elderly type))
You must have more productive things to do with your day than to create an account and troll on a technology forum, right?
Sam’s faux-laborious description of pulling out a laptop (oddly, and seemingly, from his pocket), opening a browser, awkwardly typing… Indicates some potentials of the hardware they're developing.
Less cumbersome to pull out than a laptop… Easier than pulling out a phone… Or, it’s the thing you’ll want to pull out first. I'm reminded of my fav feature of may Apple Watch: is it sees me pulling out my iPhone much less than pre-Watch times. Maybe it rests in your pocket. If os, it's likely small(ish), to accommodate phones, wallets, keys, etc. Maybe it Airtag-sized and we finally have a use for that tiny pocket above the right pants pocket! But why fumble with another device? Maybe it's more hands-free... Like an Apple Watch on a neck lanyard, and/or an option to clip onto clothes/things Ala: iPod shuffle. No ports. A speaker (to facilitate the devie's main function: conversation). Maybe a screen? BT for connecting to AirPods, iPhone, MacBook, etc. Seems like the device may function similarly to the Gemini demo earlier this week, where the guy is repairing his bike. Except there won't be a need to pull out your phone. O maybe pull out anything (if you're wearing it). It’s almost a given it’ll incorporate a magnet (MagSafe?) for charging.
That said, I’m only thinking "today thoughts." None of my above pondering is particularly novel or forward. Thus, I fully expect to be very wrong. But a small, hands-free, conversational device, certainly seems in the neighborhood. It feels very much a page out of Apple's legendary playbook - not first to market (Rabbit R1, Humane AI Pin, etc.) but it could come in and redefine a category. Regardless, I haven't been as excited about hardware since all the chatter leading up to Vision Pro. And before that, the run up to the '07 iPhone. Interested to learn more about their vision for how we'll interface with tech.
Less cumbersome to pull out than a laptop… Easier than pulling out a phone… Or, it’s the thing you’ll want to pull out first. I'm reminded of my fav feature of may Apple Watch: is it sees me pulling out my iPhone much less than pre-Watch times. Maybe it rests in your pocket. If os, it's likely small(ish), to accommodate phones, wallets, keys, etc. Maybe it Airtag-sized and we finally have a use for that tiny pocket above the right pants pocket! But why fumble with another device? Maybe it's more hands-free... Like an Apple Watch on a neck lanyard, and/or an option to clip onto clothes/things Ala: iPod shuffle. No ports. A speaker (to facilitate the devie's main function: conversation). Maybe a screen? BT for connecting to AirPods, iPhone, MacBook, etc. Seems like the device may function similarly to the Gemini demo earlier this week, where the guy is repairing his bike. Except there won't be a need to pull out your phone. O maybe pull out anything (if you're wearing it). It’s almost a given it’ll incorporate a magnet (MagSafe?) for charging.
That said, I’m only thinking "today thoughts." None of my above pondering is particularly novel or forward. Thus, I fully expect to be very wrong. But a small, hands-free, conversational device, certainly seems in the neighborhood. It feels very much a page out of Apple's legendary playbook - not first to market (Rabbit R1, Humane AI Pin, etc.) but it could come in and redefine a category. Regardless, I haven't been as excited about hardware since all the chatter leading up to Vision Pro. And before that, the run up to the '07 iPhone. Interested to learn more about their vision for how we'll interface with tech.
I don't expect it will replace the smart phone out of the gate. It may be positioned as a smart phone companion or something. And it may lay the groundwork for redefining the device(s) we carry one us the next decade or three. One has to imagine they have their sites set on replacing smart phones entirely. But that won't be v1.