I've tried a few of those options. None of them work properly. Dates, photos, etc are lost. Seems JSON would be the best bet but Apple Notes doesn't support it.
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Journaling Platform 'Day One' Transitions to a Subscription Service
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And what precisely is the extent of their "lavish lifestyle" dream that you imagine to be an empirical fact that is the, apparently, sole cause for this subscription model? Do tell.
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It is unlikely that you even have this app, or do any meaningful writing outside of forum posts, so your prescription of them needing to go "**** themselves" is not as clever or biting as you might hope.
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I'm a heavy DayOne user who has been using the app since the days of Day One Classic. I loved using my own cloud service back then. When they switched to their own cloud service for Day One 2..... I KNEW it would go subscription based at any minute... Why? Day One 2 allowed you to put 10 photos per journal entry amongst some nice feature updates (the ability to see previous entries on X day, etc...).
Being a Day One 2 owner, I signed up for the $24.99/year (it's permanent, shows renewal a year from now at $24.99). I'll be 100% honest - $24.99 is high. Would I pay $50/year? Maybe. But just because of who I am. I write ... a lot. I've always written a lot. When I was a kid I'd hand write 1-2 pages of paper journals a day. I write books for fun. It isn't uncommon for me to have 25-30 pages of a Google Doc for my journal entries per month. It's a way for me to get my thoughts out of my head, de-stress, and relax. I never share them as it's a hobby of mine for my own benefit. Going back and reading entries years ago is a lot of fun - especially now with photos.
I like Day One's ability to sync to my iPhone, show me entries in the past years on this day, show all the locations where I've done a journal entry, it inputs my steps + weather for the day automatically, location, and it allows for backups to be done on all my devices.
So I'll pay for it. I'd MUCH rather use my own cloud service because I already pay for Google Drive. I HATE, LOATHE, DISLIKE subscription services. I just cancelled my Office 365 subscription because my wife's college includes it as part of her tuition. Hate subscriptions. But I understand them... Using their own cloud service with people like me uploading 10 photos a day with a journal entry. How can they sustain that with X number of users?
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Yeah, if I had to pay $50 a year, I'd probably go back to Google Docs. I don't like having my data on someone else's server. Now with end to end encryption and a few more features, I'm using it for now because I use it almost daily. Is it really worth $24.99/year for me? I don't know. I like having access to all my journal entries with location, date - all in one place with reminders for past entries on today's date... I also export each month (when it is over) to PDF to "back it up" on Google Drive.
I also wonder how many people bashing this app are actual users of the app. Those of us that do use the app are only going to pay $24.99/year. That much for an app I use every day ... I don't see that as something so bad.
Being a Day One 2 owner, I signed up for the $24.99/year (it's permanent, shows renewal a year from now at $24.99). I'll be 100% honest - $24.99 is high. Would I pay $50/year? Maybe. But just because of who I am. I write ... a lot. I've always written a lot. When I was a kid I'd hand write 1-2 pages of paper journals a day. I write books for fun. It isn't uncommon for me to have 25-30 pages of a Google Doc for my journal entries per month. It's a way for me to get my thoughts out of my head, de-stress, and relax. I never share them as it's a hobby of mine for my own benefit. Going back and reading entries years ago is a lot of fun - especially now with photos.
I like Day One's ability to sync to my iPhone, show me entries in the past years on this day, show all the locations where I've done a journal entry, it inputs my steps + weather for the day automatically, location, and it allows for backups to be done on all my devices.
So I'll pay for it. I'd MUCH rather use my own cloud service because I already pay for Google Drive. I HATE, LOATHE, DISLIKE subscription services. I just cancelled my Office 365 subscription because my wife's college includes it as part of her tuition. Hate subscriptions. But I understand them... Using their own cloud service with people like me uploading 10 photos a day with a journal entry. How can they sustain that with X number of users?
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Yeah, if I had to pay $50 a year, I'd probably go back to Google Docs. I don't like having my data on someone else's server. Now with end to end encryption and a few more features, I'm using it for now because I use it almost daily. Is it really worth $24.99/year for me? I don't know. I like having access to all my journal entries with location, date - all in one place with reminders for past entries on today's date... I also export each month (when it is over) to PDF to "back it up" on Google Drive.
I also wonder how many people bashing this app are actual users of the app. Those of us that do use the app are only going to pay $24.99/year. That much for an app I use every day ... I don't see that as something so bad.
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I'm still using Day One Classic daily, as version 2 removed Dropbox and iCloud support and required creating another account to use their proprietary syncing service. Ironically, I was looking into migrating over after they introduced end-to-end encryption recently, and because I have a feeling Day One Classic might be broken once iOS 11 and HEIF rolls around. I couldn't figure out if there were any limits to their syncing service, which seemed weird for a one-time payment app. With all those cloud hosting fees adding up, a subscription model was probably their only viable option in the long term.
The only major features in version 2 over classic that I can tell are multiple pictures per post and a map, neither of which I'll ever use. So, I'll probably stay on the classic version until it stops working, then use the newer version offline and keep my own backups.
The only major features in version 2 over classic that I can tell are multiple pictures per post and a map, neither of which I'll ever use. So, I'll probably stay on the classic version until it stops working, then use the newer version offline and keep my own backups.
Yes I agree that for people who use the products very little or only the most basic of capabilities, it does kind of suck. There's a balance and if a person upgraded every 2-3 years, the current system isn't too bad as the monthly or annual cost adds up to about an upgrade is every 2-3 years. While MS has not made as many upgrades or improvements to Office as much as I'd like to see, Adobe has a really nice thing going with features and tweaks they add on a regular basis.
Then you're clearly not their target consumer. Why the hostility though? Not everyone has to cater to your needs. And no, I'm not a user of their product.
In your case, wouldn't it make more sense to know for SURE if an app fits with your workflow and needs before you invest large amounts of money? I've bought things in the past that have great reviews, but ended up not really being a fit.
Part of the reason I’m glad I’m still using Day One Classic. Still supported on iOS and Mac... though not updated as frequently, and iCloud support!
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Day One Classic is still working great for me! I’m using the iOS 11 Public Beta on both my iPad and iPhone
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Day One Classic is still working great for me! I’m using the iOS 11 Public Beta on both my iPad and iPhone
This, frankly, sucks. They droped syncing with your own dropbox cloud service, they dropped publishing promising it would return yet, 18 months later, nothing, and now this. I would be fine if they were website hosting with your own URL and site access and/or had wordpress publishing but without these features I'm dropping DayOne.
Not sure where to go next. Just got a list suggesting MarsEdit, Ulysesses, Byword, Blogo, Mac Journal, and Desk 3.0. Would prefer software that has macOS X app and iOS app.
Not sure where to go next. Just got a list suggesting MarsEdit, Ulysesses, Byword, Blogo, Mac Journal, and Desk 3.0. Would prefer software that has macOS X app and iOS app.
Couldn't agree more. The same with people complaining an iOS app costs 3$.
There are so many services I would be willing to pay a monthly fee for if it yields better customer support and overall product quality.
It's not about wanting free stuff. People are more than happy to buy an app. Subscriptions are renting apps, not owning them.
And a subscription doesn't mean it's a better product. Developers are supposed to price their apps enough to meet market demand, make a return on investment, and make. Profit substantial enough to cover future development. This is just a scam, and you are loving it.
i have been writing in a journal off and on ever since I had my first Mac Classic back in 1990. I used a simple word processing program. I just entered a date manually in a long running Word document before i started typing and that was that.
keeping things simple and reliable and had total control over my document. It was also very inexpensive since i needed the Application for typing up school papers.
keeping things simple and reliable and had total control over my document. It was also very inexpensive since i needed the Application for typing up school papers.
I am the idiot who has bought their iOS and Mac apps and up until recently used them on a regular basis, until I got burned by their synchronization issues and constant crashes of the mac app. So, yeah, if I'm not the right type of "consumer" for them, then they can go **** themselves.
In the end it's all about how much you use an app and what its value is and how long before it is left behind due to OS updates.
I used MS Office 2004 for umpteen years, then same for 2008 and just downloaded 2011 months ago (2008 is still working) for about $ 75.00, which will be legacy come October. Pretty sure that one will also work for many years to come. (Mostly use Excel)
Tried Libre Office which is free, but didn't like it, same for Apples spreadsheet even though that is free.
Due to my limited use it is just not worth it to get Office 2016 or a subscription. It is also not necessary to always upgrade for additional features one may not use.
I do get that developers do deserve more money when they keep working on things and maybe the yearly subscription costs matches upgrade pricing with less hassle.
But, a subscription model takes away the ability to skip versions.
So, if I upgrade every 3 years or so and pay $ 19.99 for another 3 years, I'll beat yearly subscription pricing by a wide margin in my experience.
Really can't handle this "subscription to apps" thing.
If you are constantly providing new content, like Netflix or Apple Music/Spotify, I totally get it. I'm paying for access to content that is licensed by play and a decent amount of bandwidth and storage. That seems fair.
If you're going to just put a gate on your app and say it's going to stop working if I don't keep paying, you can forget it.
If you are constantly providing new content, like Netflix or Apple Music/Spotify, I totally get it. I'm paying for access to content that is licensed by play and a decent amount of bandwidth and storage. That seems fair.
If you're going to just put a gate on your app and say it's going to stop working if I don't keep paying, you can forget it.
Just keep using it with all its current features and maintenance/bug updates for free?
I highly recommend OneNote. It's free, it's multi-platform, it's cloud synced and it's developed by a company that isn't going away anytime soon.
I too am getting tired of this. The way I see it is, I'd much rather drop a few hundred on apps I can choose to use when I want and as long as I want vs an app that I have to pay yearly and feel obligated to use because I dropped $ on it.
I think what is driving this is --- these applications have their own cloud syncing service that they have to pay inbound/outbound costs on. I saw the forums when Day One had Dropbox/iCloud syncing and ... there were a noticeable amount of people losing data. A lot of this went away with their own cloud service. Just the thought of some few thousand users uploading 10 photos a few times a week - I don't see how they can sustain that business model with a single app purchase with unlimited usage.
I hate it because I already pay Google Drive to store all my data... why can't I just use that service? Why do I have to pay $24.99/year to Day One for their cloud service? Google Drive costs me $20/year for 100GB. What does Google Drive give me vs Day One? This is where I think Day One is entering dangerous territory and alienating a LOT of customers. Sure, they're syncing 200kb photos x10 (possibly) per day per user... but ... people are going to have a hard time paying this much for a journaling app.
I can't imagine there are a lot of people out there like me who spend 30 mins a day typing out 1-2 pages of information about our day with a photo or two .... let alone people who do that who are willing to pay $50/year.
That said, I'm a long time user of Day One, I really like the app, and I have over a thousand entries in it (over the last 8 years).
Time for some people to learn MarkDown and some basic shell scripts to import their plain text files and convert to HTML with Pandoc. Add some basic CSS to style your entries
As an owner of an app company myself, this is the struggle with the business folks....
Apps that do crazy cool things go for a one-time fee of $0.99 with free updates for life on the App Store, and the business model just isn't sustainable for most of the niche products out there. This journaling app in one of them.
I'm not defending the company. I think they are going the wrong route. What my company is doing is giving everything away for free (apps, features, everything), and then one or two of our most hardcore services that most people will never need are going into a subscription model. We're talking about things that only the hardcore daily users will use. And they aren't necessary to use the product even.
Unfortunately for many indies with niche products, subscriptions are seen as the only possible way for us to grow and survive.
I really wish Apple would allow devs to charge for major updates (1.0 > 2.0) like the desktop apps model has. I think that would end the subscription overkill.
Apps that do crazy cool things go for a one-time fee of $0.99 with free updates for life on the App Store, and the business model just isn't sustainable for most of the niche products out there. This journaling app in one of them.
I'm not defending the company. I think they are going the wrong route. What my company is doing is giving everything away for free (apps, features, everything), and then one or two of our most hardcore services that most people will never need are going into a subscription model. We're talking about things that only the hardcore daily users will use. And they aren't necessary to use the product even.
Unfortunately for many indies with niche products, subscriptions are seen as the only possible way for us to grow and survive.
I really wish Apple would allow devs to charge for major updates (1.0 > 2.0) like the desktop apps model has. I think that would end the subscription overkill.
I suspect that many doing the complaining are the same ones who want to pay once, get upgrades for life, and get upset when a new version of the app is released with feature improvements that require a purchase. Another group simply complains that they have to pay for it.
I'm not a fan of subscription services but I understand why it needs to happen for some developers and applications. I don't use Day One all that often but there is value in it. I will admit that $49.99/yr seems pretty steep but I'm not privy to how demanding users are on their cloud storage. Of course once this takes effect it'll be interesting to see how it shapes out. It's possible that some of the more demanding users were the ones "abusing" things and will go elsewhere. Should that happen different things could happen...prices could drop or we might see occasional discounted subscription prices.
I've yet to see anything that truly competes with Day One. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing of it. It's a premium app thus they can ask for a premium price. I'm just glad I'm a plus customer so I can either get the discounted sub or, heck, I'm considering just sticking with what I have. I already have the Mac app so there's no gain to getting that with the sub. If there was, I'd definitely jump.
I'm not a fan of subscription services but I understand why it needs to happen for some developers and applications. I don't use Day One all that often but there is value in it. I will admit that $49.99/yr seems pretty steep but I'm not privy to how demanding users are on their cloud storage. Of course once this takes effect it'll be interesting to see how it shapes out. It's possible that some of the more demanding users were the ones "abusing" things and will go elsewhere. Should that happen different things could happen...prices could drop or we might see occasional discounted subscription prices.
I've yet to see anything that truly competes with Day One. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing of it. It's a premium app thus they can ask for a premium price. I'm just glad I'm a plus customer so I can either get the discounted sub or, heck, I'm considering just sticking with what I have. I already have the Mac app so there's no gain to getting that with the sub. If there was, I'd definitely jump.
While you're probably right about that, it doesn't change the fact everybody hates recurring charges.
I've been a Day One user literally from Day One. I've been through all the upgrades and I use the app every single day. I've seen features added and a few deleted. I've been through Dropbox, iCloud and now Day One sync. I personally never had a major problem and any issues that have come up the folks at Day One had been there and solved the issue very quickly. I loved when they added the ability to add pictures and then expanded that ability to I believe it was 3, and now it's 10. I've seen it go from just 1 journal to now having several. Using IFTTT, I have entries being automagically entered in for me. I use Day One every single day to write a daily journal about what I did that day and how I felt about things that happened. Whether I use the Mac, iPad or iPhone to input that entry I can be rest assured they will be on whatever platform I am using at that moment.
Personally I don't mind the subscription platform and since this IS an app I rely on on a daily basis I will subscribe at the $24.99 rate I am being offered since I am a "Plus" user. That's barely over $2.07 a month. In reality that's less than a cup of coffee in most places. I think I can handle that. I also use YNAB, 1Password, Office365 and I have subscriptions to ToDo Cloud and Recolor. I have no problem paying for software that I actually use and are a value to me and Day One is one of those apps. Of course I would prefer the pay one price model, but when you have to re-purchase the app every major upgrade the yearly cost actually comes out to the same price or close to the price of the subscription anyway. With the subscription you also have all the features available to you and with the web version coming later this year I will be able to add entries from just about any computer by logging in. That, to me is awesome.
I don't understand peoples reasoning when they 1. Complain about the cost of an upgrade and 2. Complain when the app goes to a subscription based model. People don't like apps because the price is too high (I've seen complaints on $.99 apps.). Why people think that apps should be free and the developers shouldn't get paid is beyond me. If an app has value to me I do not mind paying for it. Day One is the best app out there for what it does, as far as I am concerned. I've tried Evernote, and a few other apps that do journalling but they didn't have features that Day One has, or were not on all the platforms (iOS/Mac/Watch) like Day One.
Show me another app that has a dedicated, Mac, iPhone, iPad, AppleWatch version and can do everything that Day One can do and I might consider not subscribing. Oh and also that app would also have to have the web app (like Day One) will have later this year, and have the ability to have books made out of your journals like Day One has now. You'd be hard pressed to come up with that.
Personally I don't mind the subscription platform and since this IS an app I rely on on a daily basis I will subscribe at the $24.99 rate I am being offered since I am a "Plus" user. That's barely over $2.07 a month. In reality that's less than a cup of coffee in most places. I think I can handle that. I also use YNAB, 1Password, Office365 and I have subscriptions to ToDo Cloud and Recolor. I have no problem paying for software that I actually use and are a value to me and Day One is one of those apps. Of course I would prefer the pay one price model, but when you have to re-purchase the app every major upgrade the yearly cost actually comes out to the same price or close to the price of the subscription anyway. With the subscription you also have all the features available to you and with the web version coming later this year I will be able to add entries from just about any computer by logging in. That, to me is awesome.
I don't understand peoples reasoning when they 1. Complain about the cost of an upgrade and 2. Complain when the app goes to a subscription based model. People don't like apps because the price is too high (I've seen complaints on $.99 apps.). Why people think that apps should be free and the developers shouldn't get paid is beyond me. If an app has value to me I do not mind paying for it. Day One is the best app out there for what it does, as far as I am concerned. I've tried Evernote, and a few other apps that do journalling but they didn't have features that Day One has, or were not on all the platforms (iOS/Mac/Watch) like Day One.
Show me another app that has a dedicated, Mac, iPhone, iPad, AppleWatch version and can do everything that Day One can do and I might consider not subscribing. Oh and also that app would also have to have the web app (like Day One) will have later this year, and have the ability to have books made out of your journals like Day One has now. You'd be hard pressed to come up with that.