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The thing that makes me angry about this? I’m learning about it on macrumors. I’m a paid up user of dayone2.0 on iOS and OS X, and they didn’t have the decency to write to me to let me know of the changes.

If others got a note and I’ve missed it somehow, I’ll calm down - but as it stands, that’s pretty poor CX.

Also, I have a sense that Bloom Built are about to find out that very, very few people are prepared to pay £50p.a. for a journaling app. Subscriptions suck, but I get it; but the pricing strikes me as way, way out here.
How are they going to do that? It was in the App Store update page already.
 
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The thing that makes me angry about this? I’m learning about it on macrumors. I’m a paid up user of dayone2.0 on iOS and OS X, and they didn’t have the decency to write to me to let me know of the changes.

If others got a note and I’ve missed it somehow, I’ll calm down - but as it stands, that’s pretty poor CX.

Also, I have a sense that Bloom Built are about to find out that very, very few people are prepared to pay £50p.a. for a journaling app. Subscriptions suck, but I get it; but the pricing strikes me as way, way out here.

If you used the app everyday like I do, you got an update yesterday that introduced this to you way before it ever got to Macrumors. We got a popup telling us everything - how if we didn't update to Premium, those of us with Day One 2.0 had a "Plus" membership with all the same features that we had before.

So if you used the app, they did inform us before Macrumors ever got it.
 
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My god $50 a year for a journal! I like the app but that seems steep. I still have 1.0 and have not upgraded. Thought it was a great value, I am sure some developer can do better now that the have created this market. Now they will probably brick 1.0. I'm not a fan subscription apps. Nor do I want free stuff. MS office personal is $69.95 per year, how they can justify this for a journal, it's not that important and could be easily worked around.
 
What>?????? Nothing was taken away. If you purchased Day One 2 --- you still have access to everything you paid for. Nothing changes for those users... if you have Day One Classic, you still have access to everything you paid for. There have been no changes for people who purchased in the past.


Check out the App Store reviews. Many people are having this problem. I can only assume that their licensing database is about as well designed as there v2.0 GUI. In other words, it's a mess too.
 
Check out the App Store reviews. Many people are having this problem. I can only assume that their licensing database is about as well designed as there v2.0 GUI. In other words, it's a mess too.

Ah, yeah I saw that (the reviews) - I guess I was a lucky one (no problems here). :p I feel bad for all the people with problems.
 
If you used the app everyday like I do, you got an update yesterday that introduced this to you way before it ever got to Macrumors

I sure didn't. I just started the app again and bupkis. Anyone else confirm?
 
Good decision, every better app should be on a subscription model, $2-3/month is a really not that much.
Everyone wants a free stuff, which is totally disgusting.

Subscription = better product = less time wasted and a better experience for you.
Why you can't understand this.

So please don't cry!
Don't blame.

I subscription for Dayone doesn't make sense when they consistently ignore user feedback and have repeatedly shown they have no interest in doing so. There was a major backlash when they removed DropBox and Cloudsync and forced their featureless and insecure cloud service on us with no alternative. Now this.. complete crap. I had bought the previous versions on iOS and Mac and ABSOLUTELY this is the absolute final straw.
 
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The obvious choice is Apple Notes. I gave Bear a try and liked it enough to pay the $15/year subscription though that may not last.

Bill


It's crazy, because an app like Bear IS their competition. How Bloom Built thinks $50 a year is competitive is completely mind boggling.

Somewhere is a developer who could take this market from them with a competitive product.
 
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I find they just lock any useful features behind a paywall and hope for the best. I have no issue paying for an app or even small fee for upgrades, but subscripts are not a stainable model. How many apps can you pay $50 - $100 a month for...
This is one of the big problems with subscriptions, the cost adds up rapidly and for many apps you get nothing for that cost. Subscriptions might have a point for professional apps, especially low volume ones but i cant see consumers falling victim to this madness.

This is especially the case with iOS apps which is a massive market. If a business cant generate acceptable volumes in the iOS world they have problems. Realistically how many active iOS users are there, 250 million maybe. Even if you only capture 1/1000 of that user base, every year, you should be making good money. If you cant then maybe your app isn't viable.
 
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I own the Mac, iPhone and iPad app and I've used them for years. But I'm not going to pay for a yearly subscription that's almost twice as much as my VPN subscription.

Was that just an off the hand example or do you really use your VPN subscription price as a benchmark for any and all software, despite quality and value to you?
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Ive moved on from Mac and iphone and now in a beautiful open garden.

You should still consider some fencing of some sort, with all that ransomware on the prowl affecting the open gardens, in particular.
 
I don't think the subscription model is really the problem here. Had they made it $1 a month or $12/year it would probably be fine. $50/year for Day One? No.

Well cost is always a factor, who would deny that. The problem is the type if app it is suppose to be doesn't justify a subscription model at all.

One thing i did note from this thread is that many here expect a Journalling app to be some sort of scrap booking app. To me this flies in the face of what i imagine a journal should be. A journal is a place to write and as such apps that enable journalling should support that and be free of bloat. Im not sure why people would want to pay for bloat in a journalling app. Considering the apps focus i cant see any reason for a subscription model.
 
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If you used the app everyday like I do, you got an update yesterday that introduced this to you way before it ever got to Macrumors. We got a popup telling us everything - how if we didn't update to Premium, those of us with Day One 2.0 had a "Plus" membership with all the same features that we had before.

So if you used the app, they did inform us before Macrumors ever got it.


Thanks for this. I wasn't sure which Day One I had...Classic or 2.0. I suppose I have One Day 2 since i had the pop-up last night and then just checked and I am a PLUS member.

From what I gathered last night (though I was watching Fences at the time) nothing really changed and I could upgrade to a premium service if I wanted. I think the basic Journaling part of Day One is fine for me. I just write, maybe add a photo, nothing else. so I SHOULD be fine for NO EXTRA COST.

I just downloaded the Mac App to see if that is worth anything. I guess I should create an account with the iPhone app first to link any PLUS membership...eek
 
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I sure didn't. I just started the app again and bupkis. Anyone else confirm?

@evatar - Here is your confirmation:

Thanks for this. I wasn't sure which Day One I had...Classic or 2.0. I suppose I have One Day 2 since i had the pop-up last night and then just checked and I am a PLUS member.

@BJMRamage - I'm curious how it works if you don't have it already on Mac. Were you able to get the Plus membership on your Mac Day One too?
 
You use the app every day and it isn't worth $0.07/day (assuming you are on 2.0 already and get the discount) to continue using it?
Why should one pay continuously for an app that they already paid for?

Beyond that you have no concept with respect to the value of money. The cost of software can easily run into hundreds maybe even thousands a year depending upon how many apps you need to install. Cents a day isn't trivial, it all adds up in the end. This especially when your computers do everything needed for journalling with free software.
If you have version 2 then it's $2.09/month.
 
Love the wording on the attached screenshot "Most Popular" lol how do they know that as it's only just been released! ;-)

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And what precisely is the extent of their "lavish lifestyle" dream that you imagine to be an empirical fact that is the, apparently, sole cause for this subscription model? Do tell.
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They live on yachts and travel to work in hot air balloons.
 
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Love the wording on the attached screenshot "Most Popular" lol how do they know that as it's only just been released! ;-)

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I'm glad someone else noticed. I audibly laughed last night when I read that a mere minutes after their update rolled out.

In a similar vein, it would be nice if Apple showed how many active subscriptions an app had (though will never happen). I would be more inclined to subscribe to something if I knew they weren't just going to go out of business anyway because I'm their only subscriber. It would also be nice if Apple ranked the popularity of the various IAPs similar to how they show the popularity of individual songs with the bars on an album pages in iTunes.
 
Over 10 years that's $500 for a mediocre journaling app. What happens if you stop paying? Hell I'd rather use pen and paper.
 
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Glad I never upgraded from Day One classic with dropbox. Their cloud sync was never able to complete sync for me anyway so there is no way I would start paying a subscription fee.
 
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