Yep!
I never even heard of this app before today! In any event they likely just killed the company because i can imagine anybody spending that money on an app that can be replaced by many other types of apps. Many of those apps would be free too.
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Journaling Platform 'Day One' Transitions to a Subscription Service
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I never even heard of this app before today! In any event they likely just killed the company because i can imagine anybody spending that money on an app that can be replaced by many other types of apps. Many of those apps would be free too.
IMO Apple deserves some of the blame for so many developers moving to a subscription based model. Apple doesn’t allow for upgrade based pricing in the App Store. That leaves developers in a bind. Do you make your app available for free then sell out your users by offering their data to the highest bidder(s)? Do you load up your app with ads that will just piss users off? Do you submit every version upgrade as a new app that users have to purchase each time at the full price for the app? Do you offer in-app purchases to unlock new features making the end user feel they are being nickel and dimed? There are no good options here for a large group of developers. Apple needs to wise up and offer upgrade pricing.
Apple should give developers the freedom to offer whatever pricing model they want. They are losing revenue by not allowing devs to offer upgrade pricing. The subscription model is a joke in many instances. You’re renting an app and on the hook for money even if the devs aren’t improving the product.
Apple should give developers the freedom to offer whatever pricing model they want. They are losing revenue by not allowing devs to offer upgrade pricing. The subscription model is a joke in many instances. You’re renting an app and on the hook for money even if the devs aren’t improving the product.
For the subscription fee to work for me.
Now i need the service on my android phone, windows systems.
Otherwise that price cant be justified. Ive moved on from Mac and iphone and now in a beautiful open garden.
Now i need the service on my android phone, windows systems.
Otherwise that price cant be justified. Ive moved on from Mac and iphone and now in a beautiful open garden.
So basically they just hijacked our Journals by taking away iCloud sync and forcing us to pay for a subscription to use their sync service and call that a Premium service?? I call that ransomware. Hope Apple pulls the app from the store.
Their reviews on the App Store are getting killed by customers over this. They will be shutting their doors soon.
Pure greed! I'm not giving them another dime!
Their reviews on the App Store are getting killed by customers over this. They will be shutting their doors soon.
Pure greed! I'm not giving them another dime!
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Agreed I paid the 6.99 fee once, I won't pay for the subscription. Paper costs are much cheaper I'll just write it down or type it and print it. I feel like we will have to subscribe to everything to get out of bed. Maybe a 9.99 a year subscription would be a better price point. I could see more people subscribing to that then 50$.
I use Day One a lot, but I don't use a lot of the features that DO thinks (possibly correctly) that they need to charge for. For example, I have never uploaded a photo, and probably never will.
If SimpleNote had slightly enhanced text formatting features, it would satisfy my needs fully. I'd be happy to pay something for SimpleNote if they did.
If SimpleNote had slightly enhanced text formatting features, it would satisfy my needs fully. I'd be happy to pay something for SimpleNote if they did.
Microsoft Word and OneNote have journaling templates. Why pay $50.00 a year?
This has to be one of the most ignorant replies I've seen in years!
If you buy a TV from Sony (or whomever) would you except a yearly fee from Sony to use it?
Frankly there are better ways for developers to handle their cash flow needs.
1. Expand the customer base by advertising. Yeah i know app developers have no concept of marketing but screw them.
2. Instead of suppling an infinite set of upgrades fix a feature set and then develop new versions of the app to sell.
3. A business that only has one product will always be at risk. Develop a reasonable family of products to market.
4. Take a few business classes if you don't grasp the basics.
In a nut shell screwing your customers is never a good business practice.
It is a massive amount of money when more and more apps transition to this model. Depending upon the user you could be spending thousands every year.
Nope not the case at all. People buy an app as they expect a developer to earn something from it. They don't expect to have to pay for the developers lavish life style every year.
If you buy a TV from Sony (or whomever) would you except a yearly fee from Sony to use it?
Almost none if this is true. The reality is it is a very bad experience for the user. Extremely bad really. The user ends up bleeding cash for no real advantage and frankly no control.
Because we aren't ignorant and understand the value of money.
Frankly there are better ways for developers to handle their cash flow needs.
1. Expand the customer base by advertising. Yeah i know app developers have no concept of marketing but screw them.
2. Instead of suppling an infinite set of upgrades fix a feature set and then develop new versions of the app to sell.
3. A business that only has one product will always be at risk. Develop a reasonable family of products to market.
4. Take a few business classes if you don't grasp the basics.
In a nut shell screwing your customers is never a good business practice.
I'm really bummed about this....
I've been a user of this app since the first week the app showed up on the App Store many years ago. I was already done with them when they took away DropBox syncing, but this is even more unsettling. Goodluck with this business model, Bloom Built. You'll need it!
I've been a user of this app since the first week the app showed up on the App Store many years ago. I was already done with them when they took away DropBox syncing, but this is even more unsettling. Goodluck with this business model, Bloom Built. You'll need it!
I left DayOne after they switched to their proprietary sync/backup engine.
Looks like I made the right choice.
Looks like I made the right choice.
It doesn't help that iOS updates are permanent and often require apps to be updated.
Thus, developers have to keep updating their apps for the existing users so they continue to work. There's no point at which the app needs to be re-purchased again for an updated version.
So all their new content gets distributed to people who have already purchased the app.
There should be a way to provide compatibility/security updates without giving all the new features away.
I'd much prefer having to buy again when I decide I want the new version of the software to paying a continuous subscription... which I am no fan of.
They DO allow it in the sense that Bloom Built renamed the app "Day One 2.0" and charged a new, higher and separate price for it. I bought both the v1 and v2 iOS and and desktop apps.
I get it as well. We've been conditioned to accept the "buy once update free forever" model of iOS and that's not really good for developers but I can't justify $5-$10/month on five or six favorite apps. I would rather they move to giving you a couple major updates over a year or two and then you have to buy it again or pay ten or twenty bucks for the new features. If you want them you buy them. If you're happy with it as is you don't.
They're complaining because functionality THEY PAID FOR was TAKEN AWAY. People have upgraded to the the next dot version and instead of improvements found themselves locked out of their our data and features and forced to PAY MORE to get it back. You know what that's called? It's called RANSOMWARE.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?
Hell one could Journal in Excel or Numbers if they wanted too. Then you have the free stuff like Pages, Keynote, iBooks Author, XCode and Notes all free from Apple. This doesn't even Touch upon all the free text editors out there.
Now I'm not a Journal writing type if guy but i can say this, if you cant get existing free software to do the job for you, you are way too wrapped up in journaling. Lets face it people have been doing journals for centuries with pen and paper. You don't need a lot of software to put pen to paper so to speak.
To Day One's credit, they are offering users who purchased their app prior to today a Plus tier access (10 photos per entries, 10 journals, cloud sync, vs. unlimited photos and journals on Premium subscription tier).
But I think Plus tier should be offered to other users as well as in-app purchase (equal to previous retail price of the app) or cheaper subscription pricing (e.g., $1.99/month vs. $49.99/year).
But I think Plus tier should be offered to other users as well as in-app purchase (equal to previous retail price of the app) or cheaper subscription pricing (e.g., $1.99/month vs. $49.99/year).
What>?????? Nothing was taken away. If you purchased Day One 2 --- you still have access to everything you paid for. Nothing changes for those users... if you have Day One Classic, you still have access to everything you paid for. There have been no changes for people who purchased in the past.
With Notes adding all those extra features in iOS 11, it seems I can just do my journalling there. I paid for Day One last year and found it to be badly designed and haven't really used it. No subscription from me! Just pushing out a very curious casual user.
We seem to think and work the same way
Don't bloat...uhm develop/add features to apps for revenue sake and if it becomes "incredibly" useful compared to a previous version charge and we'll buy it again or whatever deal is being offered.
I use pdfpenpro many times a day and have bought it several times. It is my go to pdf editor.
But, if they go subscription I'll check for alternatives before I pay by month/year.
In other words: 'We need money, and it's your money'?
Wasn't it 'free' before? This is sure going to get them a whole bunch of users...
I have 'Day One Classic', and have never actually used it. Ignore my comment.
I wouldn't want to deny a developer the ability to make money off of their work, but it seems harsh to want to push people into a perpetual track of paying over and over for the application to do what it did for a flat fee. THAT is one of the main, probably THE main reason I dropped Adobe products. I'm still using CS4, for as long as it will continue to function, but will not (obviously) pay over and over again for software that I don't use on a day-to-day basis.
It might be a 'good business model', but it beats up on your customers and limits your sales. (Imagine if Microsoft had changed to a yearly license model for Windows, and how much inroads Apple would likely make in their customer base)
I have to wonder if the Adobe decision had more to do with mac users not wanting to pay for updates that didn't really update THE problems with the programs. It seemed to take Adobe a long time to release apps that 'fixed' broken things. I used to purchase all the upgrades as I started with the suite while it was from Macromedia, also purchasing several updates before Adobe bought them, but seeing little benefit, and radically increased cost, and plenty of alternatives, I stopped pouring my money into Adobe.
But, whatever. Carry on...
Wasn't it 'free' before? This is sure going to get them a whole bunch of users...
I have 'Day One Classic', and have never actually used it. Ignore my comment.
I wouldn't want to deny a developer the ability to make money off of their work, but it seems harsh to want to push people into a perpetual track of paying over and over for the application to do what it did for a flat fee. THAT is one of the main, probably THE main reason I dropped Adobe products. I'm still using CS4, for as long as it will continue to function, but will not (obviously) pay over and over again for software that I don't use on a day-to-day basis.
It might be a 'good business model', but it beats up on your customers and limits your sales. (Imagine if Microsoft had changed to a yearly license model for Windows, and how much inroads Apple would likely make in their customer base)
I have to wonder if the Adobe decision had more to do with mac users not wanting to pay for updates that didn't really update THE problems with the programs. It seemed to take Adobe a long time to release apps that 'fixed' broken things. I used to purchase all the upgrades as I started with the suite while it was from Macromedia, also purchasing several updates before Adobe bought them, but seeing little benefit, and radically increased cost, and plenty of alternatives, I stopped pouring my money into Adobe.
But, whatever. Carry on...
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Just use one of the Apple supplied free apps. This is for writing Journals, get too complex and you aren't writing a Journal anymore.
If not an Apple supplied app look towards all of the free text editors out there. If you look hard enough you might find a journalling app.
I really don't see a reason for anything complex here. Remember pen and paper worked for centuries.
The thing that makes me angry about this? I’m learning about it on macrumors. I’m a paid up user of dayone2.0 on iOS and OS X, and they didn’t have the decency to write to me to let me know of the changes.
If others got a note and I’ve missed it somehow, I’ll calm down - but as it stands, that’s pretty poor CX.
Also, I have a sense that Bloom Built are about to find out that very, very few people are prepared to pay £50p.a. for a journaling app. Subscriptions suck, but I get it; but the pricing strikes me as way, way out here.
If others got a note and I’ve missed it somehow, I’ll calm down - but as it stands, that’s pretty poor CX.
Also, I have a sense that Bloom Built are about to find out that very, very few people are prepared to pay £50p.a. for a journaling app. Subscriptions suck, but I get it; but the pricing strikes me as way, way out here.
I purchased the 2.0 upgrade back when it came out. I have not yet subscribed and all my data is still available and syncing is still working as it did prior to the subscription announcement. Day One's site also states that you can still use 2.0 as usual without the subscription for as long as you wish. Non-subscribers won't have the newest features ( unlimited journals or web app access). If you purchased 2.0 prior today nothing has really changed. I can still access any version and sync with all my versions. So what then is being held for ransom?