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Once again... Ive did not come up with the butterfly key switch mechanical design used in the keyboard.
 
It's always funny when you look at the breakdown of how this is paid out... guess who is the only group who ever ends up truly getting paid. Lawyers.
 
Now: will Apple provide replacement keyboards for users of these machines?

Or at least let the aftermarket make replacement keyboards?

These were some EXCELLENT laptops, I moved right from my 2011 to a late 2019 16” i9 to avoid this issue.

As millions of these begin to hit the secondary market I think there will be a need for replacement keyboards, even if they cost $250-350.
The late 2019 16-inch model doesn't use a butterfly keyboard, so you're good 😉... at least, you are less likely to suffer from the same fate as many owners of butterfly keyboard owners.

Good for you, hanging on to your 2011 model for eight years! Hope my 2019 16-inch model also lasts that long and performs adequately for as long as yours did.

 
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Exactly.
I went years without updating. I tried out several models years of MBP butterfly keys at the Apple stores. They were both unreliable and awful. Good riddance to the touchbars too!
I will be glad to update regularly, with return to friendlier input in the MBA & MBP lines.
Well the good news out of all this is that now Apple touts "key travel" specifically in their marketing. Seems they got the message that people actually prefer (gasp) actual tactile feedback when they type.
 
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Excellent win for the lawyers, good pay day for them! All the customers though not so much..
 
You have proof of this?


Yeah...I guess it's possible Ive was fussing and tinkering with making key switches in his office while the huge team of project/systems/electrical/mechanical/software/reliability/QA/packaging engineers and other managers were developing the rest of the laptop.

Rather than just handing it off to a small group of electrical/mechanical/reliability/material engineers to come up with a keyboard based on the known dimensions of the available space in the laptop.

Certainly an excellent use of Ive's time. And of course that would be far more important than Ive's other design duties and use of his time at Apple.

That would make so much sense. And would be a real knee-slapper.
 
I assume the usual type of settlement: $49.9 million to the lawyers and a $20 gift card at Walmart for each class member. At least half the gift cards will never make it to their destination/be used.
 
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What about other states like Iowa where people have purchased such devices? I wonder why it's limited to such few states.
 
Now you know. In Class action law suits who takes the larger cut ? Attorney. legal.
 
Ive didn't design the keyboard. Mechanical/electrical engineers did.
Oops. Looks like someone made a mistake:

"He became the senior vice president of industrial design* in 1997 after the return of Jobs, and subsequently headed the industrial design team responsible for most of the company's significant hardware products."

*Emphasis mine


"It is the creative act of determining and defining a product's form and features, which takes place in advance of the manufacture or production of the product...."


So yes, Ive was indeed responsible for the butterfly keyboard.
 
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So sick of lawyers take advantage of the consumers. They don't give a dime to the consumers, all they are thinking is $13.6 million in attorney fees. The government should set upper limit the percentage of the lawyer can make from this kind of lawsuit.
That seems like a lot. But the system basically works. Who do you think funds the lawsuit for years to bring Apple to the bargaining table and sign the settlement? It is the lawyers who fund it (well the law firm they work for). They do the work for years and their law firm (which is really just the senior lawyers of the firm) funds the litigation. If they get Apple to settle and agree to a payment, they get a huge amount of money. When Apple takes it all the way to court and wins (or the lawyers run out of money to continue the lawsuit (which happens all the time)), the lawyers get paid nothing from no one.

If the government sets an upper limit and the upper limit isn't high enough, then there will be lawsuits against the biggest companies for the worst stuff that will just be too hard and expensive to bring.

Apple screwed up big time on the butterfly keyboard. This is a pretty decent slap on the wrist for Apple to not screw up like this again.
 
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The butterfly keyboard was a classic example of Tim Cook’s cluelessness.
 
What would be nice is apple swapping out the machines with newer models instead of the payout but 400$ is still nice. I had 3 top cases replaced.
 
Another reason why I tell people the 2019 MacBook Pro was one of the worst devices I have ever purchased. The keys constantly sticking was frustrating to say the least.
2019 the problem was mostly fixed. It’s the 2018 and before that has the most issues. 2019 was the best of that design with the update they did to them.
 
It’s a shame the butterfly keyboard went away. The typing experience on my 2017 MBP was much nicer than my current 2019 MBP, which feels all mushy and wobbly in comparison.
 
It’s a shame the butterfly keyboard went away. The typing experience on my 2017 MBP was much nicer than my current 2019 MBP, which feels all mushy and wobbly in comparison.
While being a clickety-clack and noisy keyboard design, it did indeed have the benefit of very tight key travel. I kind of liked it myself and was pleasantly surprised to use it when I first bought my MacBook Pro 2016 with the new design. Too bad about the noise and the reliability, though.
 
The butterfly keyboard was a classic example of Tim Cook’s cluelessness.
He might have actually liked it back in the day. Would be interesting to find archives of any interviews he did, where he may have expressed an opinion on the keyboard feel. I get the feeling that the design department was really hyped up on it, so every in Apple ended up "drinking the same Kool-Aid"...
 
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While being a clickety-clack and noisy keyboard design, it did indeed have the benefit of very tight key travel. I kind of liked it myself and was pleasantly surprised to use it when I first bought my MacBook Pro 2016 with the new design. Too bad about the noise and the reliability, though.
I much preferring the noise the 2017 keyboard made vs the 2019! The 2017 had a lovely clicky sound to it.
 
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