The late 2019 16-inch model doesn't use a butterfly keyboard, so you're good 😉... at least, you are less likely to suffer from the same fate as many owners of butterfly keyboard owners.Now: will Apple provide replacement keyboards for users of these machines?
Or at least let the aftermarket make replacement keyboards?
These were some EXCELLENT laptops, I moved right from my 2011 to a late 2019 16” i9 to avoid this issue.
As millions of these begin to hit the secondary market I think there will be a need for replacement keyboards, even if they cost $250-350.
Well the good news out of all this is that now Apple touts "key travel" specifically in their marketing. Seems they got the message that people actually prefer (gasp) actual tactile feedback when they type.Exactly.
I went years without updating. I tried out several models years of MBP butterfly keys at the Apple stores. They were both unreliable and awful. Good riddance to the touchbars too!
I will be glad to update regularly, with return to friendlier input in the MBA & MBP lines.
You have proof of this?Once again... Ive did not come up with the butterfly key switch mechanical design used in the keyboard.
You have proof of this?
Now now -don’t be a jerk 😉I guess it's better than $1.09.
Oops. Looks like someone made a mistake:Ive didn't design the keyboard. Mechanical/electrical engineers did.
That seems like a lot. But the system basically works. Who do you think funds the lawsuit for years to bring Apple to the bargaining table and sign the settlement? It is the lawyers who fund it (well the law firm they work for). They do the work for years and their law firm (which is really just the senior lawyers of the firm) funds the litigation. If they get Apple to settle and agree to a payment, they get a huge amount of money. When Apple takes it all the way to court and wins (or the lawyers run out of money to continue the lawsuit (which happens all the time)), the lawyers get paid nothing from no one.So sick of lawyers take advantage of the consumers. They don't give a dime to the consumers, all they are thinking is $13.6 million in attorney fees. The government should set upper limit the percentage of the lawyer can make from this kind of lawsuit.
They usually get 33% plus “costs,” because lawyers.What I cannot understand is WHY the law firm gets 1/6 of the class action lawsuit when people like me will probably only get $20!
2019 the problem was mostly fixed. It’s the 2018 and before that has the most issues. 2019 was the best of that design with the update they did to them.Another reason why I tell people the 2019 MacBook Pro was one of the worst devices I have ever purchased. The keys constantly sticking was frustrating to say the least.
While being a clickety-clack and noisy keyboard design, it did indeed have the benefit of very tight key travel. I kind of liked it myself and was pleasantly surprised to use it when I first bought my MacBook Pro 2016 with the new design. Too bad about the noise and the reliability, though.It’s a shame the butterfly keyboard went away. The typing experience on my 2017 MBP was much nicer than my current 2019 MBP, which feels all mushy and wobbly in comparison.
He might have actually liked it back in the day. Would be interesting to find archives of any interviews he did, where he may have expressed an opinion on the keyboard feel. I get the feeling that the design department was really hyped up on it, so every in Apple ended up "drinking the same Kool-Aid"...The butterfly keyboard was a classic example of Tim Cook’s cluelessness.
I much preferring the noise the 2017 keyboard made vs the 2019! The 2017 had a lovely clicky sound to it.While being a clickety-clack and noisy keyboard design, it did indeed have the benefit of very tight key travel. I kind of liked it myself and was pleasantly surprised to use it when I first bought my MacBook Pro 2016 with the new design. Too bad about the noise and the reliability, though.