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In reality, the burden of implementing this new system falls on the developer and not on Apple.

Technically the only thing that Apple MUST do in order to comply with this is to update the TOS that 3rd-party payment services are no longer forbidden.

Then any new submissions after Dec 9 will allow links to outside systems.

This ruling does NOT mean that 3rd party systems are allowed (accepting CC payment within the App). The ruling only requires that a link to Safari is provided moving them outside the app for the transaction. Of course the link could include unique identifiers for the individual user and that could affect user privacy and link tracking.

Ultimately this means that a developer could completely bypass the In-App system and unlock features with credit cards on their website... giving the developer 97% of the purchase price instead of 70%/85%. Another advantage is immediate payment instead of waiting 30+ days for Apple to payout. The disadvantage is that users will have to go through a whole lot of additional steps instead of the one-click purchase that In-App provides... so even though the developers are making more per transaction, they might actually be making less overall because of the increased user difficulty in purchasing.

Apple did announce that App submissions will be reviewed in Dec, but slower than normal. If Apple really wanted to be a pain they could rescind that announcement and start the holiday on Dec 9 but not allowing any of those submissions to go live until Jan ? when they come back.

The one added wrinkle being that it seems that it would be ok if Apple takes a cut of the 97% purchase price for itself (presumably after the fact via some sort of periodic reporting requirement).
 
I can compare because thats the only way to download apps on iOS is through the App Store. Apple has two choices either allow side loading apps like MacOS or allow external payments through their closed garden App Store. Hopefully down the line Apple will allow side loading apps. Apples security reason on side loading is BS because if their claims were true they would have closed down the Mac a long time ago. I do what more sensitive stuff on Mac computer for work than I would ever do on my IPhone.
But your original post stated:
Remember this is nothing different then what you do on your Mac on the web. Paying for Amazon purchases, Netflix, Spotify, buying/ downloading apps on the web, paying bills online etc.
You can do all this on your iPhone. The only difference being is that if it's an app you want then it's via App Store Payment processing. You can still purchase through Amazon without Apple, you can still pay your bills etc.
It's like you were stating that on the iPhone it's impossible to do any of these things without going through Apple payment system.
 
It's becoming the accepted way of thinking, by countries and the public at large, that phones are general computing platforms the way computers have always been regarded, and they are viewed less and less as top-down appliances or consoles to have to very inconveniently switch out whole-hog (some here will stubbornly cling to this viewpoint, including Apple).
 
Are we a free country, or a communist chattel? Why is a judge dictating what a company can do with its own product?
Kinda like how a judge can fine Microsoft $1M a day for giving away internet explorer for free. Not to mention the government once broke up AT&T when they got too large. Read up your history and you'll see how this free country is run.
 
As per forum rules, please provide a source for your claim.
Fascinating to hear this after you posted this unsourced claim:
People who buy iOS devices mostly LIKE the safety and security that comes from its more locked-down nature.
Moreover, please prove that "most" people connect the security of the iPhone with its "locked-down" nature. I'm speculating, but I suspect that "most" people don't give a **** as long as they can scroll TikTok or Facebook or whatever.
 
Because people have inalienable rights that Apple is violating.
Your right to an iPhone is in the constitution? You have the right to use another device, one that has rules and policies that better fit what you want to do with it. I'm not sure why people think that a company needs to change what they do to accommodate them. It's a free market. If a device does not do what you want, buy something else.
 
Apple's not stupid. They've likely got it ready to go, just needs CRs approved, and push to production. Much like when they bring the store down for updates.

It's not so much coding, as removing code - the automatic checks for links to payment processing. They don't have to code anything for the apps themselves to use other payment methods - that's internal to the developers.
Except that it’s also possible that the exact opposite is true.

When you’v worked with software for 30 years you quickly learn that nothing is easy… Last Apple want to do is make a change that takes down the entire store.
 
Fascinating to hear this after you posted this unsourced claim:

Moreover, please prove that "most" people connect the security of the iPhone with its "locked-down" nature. I'm speculating, but I suspect that "most" people don't give a **** as long as they can scroll TikTok or Facebook or whatever.
They can do those things on macos, too, but 10x as many buy ios devices.

And you can find sources for my contention in the exhibits to apple’s brief.
 
I'm not sure how I feel about all this. A part of me agrees but I don't like it when a company like Epic try and state that they are looking out for users when it's blatantly obvious they are only interested in their own bank balance.

Also, if I started something successful through hard work and innovation but was then told 'No, you can't do it that way, you must do it like this' then I'd probably be pretty fed up. I appreciate competition and all that but to be told you have to change something you created would be very frustrating.
That is the underline principle as a society wants big brother (daddy now) to watch over you and take care of you. No more choices.

If you create something and it is successful, it will be taken away from you eventually for “the good of the people”.

If you don’t like the rules of the Apple store, write for Microsoft or Android. I agree totally with Tim Cook on this.

The customer will be hurt, Apple will increase their prices to compensate for the loss…and now having to deal even more with security issues, viruses etc. what a pain…

And we the user (as usual) take the hit at the end of the day…
 
This would need to be included in App Store Connect for devs, it's not just a question of giving devs cart blanche on just adding a hyperlink within their description, it needs work, it will need code.
If all that is required is adding a link, would that not be the devs responsibility? Apple only needs to redraft store guidelines to permit this.

The attempted injunction implies that Apple has yet to decide on how to implement a fee on these external payments.
 
Because people have inalienable rights that Apple is violating.
What “inalienable rights” are wittering on about?

Personal rights held by an individual which are not bestowed by law, custom, or belief, and which cannot be taken or given away, or transferred to another person, are referred to as “inalienable rights.”.

Pray tell, how does ANYTHING to do with owning an Apple phone fall under that?
 
Wait until blabbermouth Sweeney tweets this in glee because that is what he does, always talk about apple,

I’m sure apple is working on this change behind the scenes should the appeal be denied like today but apple will fight this to the tooth and nail for years and I hope they do because the longer they fight this the longer epic is denied in the App Store
 
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Anyone calling the government Big Brother is failing to make the connection that Apple is acting exactly like Big Brother. You may say "it's a free market, buy an Android phone", but for many who are inadvertently entrenched in the iPhone they purchased, it's not so quick and easy to do that. These are general-purpose, wide-reaching platforms that govern our lives at this point, and that is why they are scrutinized and demand regulation.
 
Anyone calling the government Big Brother is failing to make the connection that Apple is acting exactly like Big Brother. You may say "it's a free market, buy an Android phone", but for many who are inadvertently entrenched in the iPhone they purchased, it's not so quick and easy to do that. These are platforms that govern our lives at this point, and that is why they are scrutinized and demand regulation.
Have you read 1984?
 
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