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Is it possible they keep shipping with Haswell chips and just update the GPU and trackpad along with slightly cheaper storage upgrades or something?
 
This is evident!

Evidently, Apple will push updates to 15-inch MacBook Pro Retina. MacBook Pros are some of the most popular Macs and that's the obvious reason for these long shipping delays.
 
Hopefully they will reveal a redesigned Skylake version with DDR4 etc. That would definitely make my year!

Seeing as Microsoft and some laptop manufacturers are basing new laptops on SKylake, and to have Skylake ready for Windows 10 (which has an August-September release scheduled from the rumors) -
Intel could have a 28W and 35W Skylake chip ready in time for an announcement at WWDC (They have Computex before WWDC if they wanted an announcement) - Plus Mac Pro could get an update too seeing as the new Xeon is ready.

SKL-U-2 GT3e, 64MB eDRAM 28W
SKL-H-2 GT4e 128 MB eDRAM 45W throttled? Apple's choices likely stick out due to the eDRAM, right?

well i will buying my first macbook for ios app development(just started learning sometime ago) and wanted skylake . It would be huge disappointment if apple chooses to update rmbp15 with broadwell considering the fact that skylake is much much superior .
its just a matter of 2-3 months when intel launches skylake processor at idf conference is there a chance apple bagged the first shipment and that too this much early. ?? :excited:
Waiting eagerly as it is pain to develop using virtualisation :(


I don't understand why all of you people think there is a chance of a skylake 15" macbook pro coming out soon???

That chart of intel roadmap is out of date. Intel's chips are delayed several months like they are every generation. Skylake is not really coming out in 2015.

Only like half the broadwell chips are out so far.

By the end of 2015, we may get CORE M skylake chips but thats it.
Then early 2016 more skylake chips will start trickling in.
And it will not be until Q3/Q4 of 2016 until skylake chips come out suitable for the 15" macbook pro.

At some point later this year we will get a broadwell 15" macbook pro.
And at some point in late 2016 we will get a skylake (and possible redesigned) 15" macbook pro.


Stop hoping a skylake macbook pro will be coming out this year, and stop asking Apple to skip broadwell generation because that makes no sense.
 
Wouldn't be the first time Apple has gotten their hands on a CPU prior to public release.

yea Apple was the first to get Iris Pro graphics which came as a surprise and kinda out of line with Intel's road map.

Also, Intel may want to become BFF with Apple now that Microsoft/Windows 10 is supporting ARM... so Intel wants to give some exclusive Skylake supplies to Apple. Just my theory, but I hope it's the case. Broadwell sucks and I don't want it going into MacBook Pro.
 
Hopefully they will reveal a redesigned Skylake version with DDR4 etc. That would definitely make my year!


I sure do hope that Apple will come out with a new Macbook Pro, I need to refresh my older model back from 2009 (that still works with Yosemite, but really getting slow...) and I really need ports and defiantly a 15 inch screen instead of 13.

Furthermore I do need those ports....just one USBC connection won't work for me.
 
The Apple Store is showing 1-2 Weeks for the high end i5 iMac, and 2-3 weeks for higher end BTO i7.

The Retina iMac has normal shipping times.

I check the site, for the iMac, fairly regularly. IIRC, the estimated ship date was usually 3-5 Days.

Maybe we will see Broadwell in the Non-Retina iMacs, and when Skylake is available, it will make its way into the Retina iMac, and work its way down the line.
 
Can someone please point me to what they find so exciting about Skylake? A good article, perhaps?

One of the first articles returned in a Google search...

Emphasis added by me.

In Intel terminology Skylake is the Tock to Broadwell’s Tick, offering a new microarchitecture atop the 14nm process first introduced with Broadwell. As is the case with every Core update, for Skylake Intel is shooting for significant increases in performance, power efficiency, and battery life. Since Skylake is built on the same 14nm process as Broadwell, Skylake is primarily an exercise in Intel’s architecture development capabilities, with its gains needing to come from optimizations in design rather than significant manufacturing improvements.

Full article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8510/idf-2014-intel-demonstrates-skylake-due-h22015

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Other expected enhancements include PCI Express 4.0 support on the "-E" (extreme) version (for which the release is expected in 2017[15]), Thunderbolt 3.0, SATA Express, Iris Pro graphics with Direct3D feature level 12.0 with up to 128 MB of L4 eDRAM cache on certain SKUs.[16] The Skylake line of processors is expected to retire VGA support, while supporting up to five monitors connected via HDMI, DisplayPort or Embedded DisplayPort (eDP) interfaces.[17]

Instruction set enhancements are also expected as with most microarchitecture releases; the Skylake instruction set changes include Intel MPX (Memory Protection Extensions) and Intel ADX (Multi-Precision Add-Carry Instruction Extensions). The Xeon variant will also have Advanced Vector Extensions 3.2 ("AVX-512F") and Intel SHA Extensions (for SHA-1 and SHA-256 Secure Hash Algorithms).

Full article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)

I've also read of integrated GPU improvements, but you can do the searching on that subject...
 
Looking forward to Force Touch, a faster processor and hopefully a bigger SSD.

Either way, it will be a huge leap from my current laptop.

& guys, you really think Apple will redesign the MacBook Pro so it only has one port before they've even discontinued the MacBook Air? The optical drive, SSD based MacBook Air was released in 2008 - these changes only made it to the Pro in 2012 - when we were all ready for them, and without discontinuing the non-Retina MacBook Pro.
 
Looking forward to Force Touch, a faster processor and hopefully a bigger SSD.

Either way, it will be a huge leap from my current laptop.

& guys, you really think Apple will redesign the MacBook Pro so it only has one port before they've even discontinued the MacBook Air? The optical drive, SSD based MacBook Air was released in 2008 - these changes only made it to the Pro in 2012 - when we were all ready for them, and without discontinuing the non-Retina MacBook Pro.

I think that the redesigned MacBook Pro family will be similar to the Macbook Air now in terms of design and ports. I'm not sure how they're going to do it exactly, but they're going to figure out a way to stuff all of the stuff in the rMBP into a MBA frame.

I think that's part of the reason why they didn't refresh the MBA and why there haven't been any rumors of such. It's going to be discontinued and replaced with rMBP in a smaller form factor.

Well, they'll continue to sell it until the rMB is price competitive.
 
yea Apple was the first to get Iris Pro graphics which came as a surprise and kinda out of line with Intel's road map.

Also, Intel may want to become BFF with Apple now that Microsoft/Windows 10 is supporting ARM... so Intel wants to give some exclusive Skylake supplies to Apple. Just my theory, but I hope it's the case. Broadwell sucks and I don't want it going into MacBook Pro.

Hoping for this as well. Early access for Apple.

Intel made some custom chips for Apple back when Apple first released the MacBook Air.
 
What do people think will happen with the graphics on the new systems? Will it be able to drive a 5k display like the Mac pros through display port 1.3 or 2x 1.2?
 
What do people think will happen with the graphics on the new systems? Will it be able to drive a 5k display like the Mac pros through display port 1.3 or 2x 1.2?

I believe Broadwell will probably allow for driving a 5K display via dual Thunderbolt ports like the Mac Pro. I'm not sure though. The way the Mac Pro does it is via using two of its three Thunderbolt buses. I'm not sure if the rMBP has two TB buses.

I'm thinking the only way the rMBP would drive a 5K display is with Skylake and the new TB spec. That's why a lot of us are waiting for Skylake, among other reasons.
 
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