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June Delivery Date for Backordered 15-Inch Retina Macbook Pro Sparks Refresh Speculation
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hopefully. I'm on a 2010 and I want to upgrade finally.
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Skylake will not be here in time. maybe next year
http://wccftech.com/intel-processor...ee-arrives-q3-2016-skylake-muy-chips-q4-2015/
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Skylake will not be here in time. maybe next year
http://wccftech.com/intel-processor...ee-arrives-q3-2016-skylake-muy-chips-q4-2015/
I think that if Apple wanted to go this route, then the 15" MBPs would have been updated in March with the 13" MBPs. So I predict that we will see a 15" MBP update to Broadwell at or around WWDC.
I've read that the actual performance increase to the 13" mbp was minimal, hence so would a similar refresh be to the 15" mbp. Is this true? I haven't kept up with what the new version of the 13" model is like, I mean user experience.
I don't know what the clock speeds of the Broadwell-H chips will be, so it's hard for me to make a good comparison, but given the Haswell-to-Broadwell transitions in many other consumer segments I don't expect more than a small boost in CPU performance with Broadwell.
I'm curious as to what GPU options a 15" Broadwell MBP would have. There are a number of possibilities:
- Iris Pro only Broadwell GT3e may be close enough to the 750M in performance that Apple can remove the 750M in a Broadwell update.
- Iris Pro and 950M (or similar) This is one option if Apple wants to continue with a discrete GPU option for the near future.
- Iris Pro and an AMD GPU The Mac Pro and Retina iMac use AMD GPUs, so I wonder if the MacBook Pro will follow suit if AMD has or can deliver a GPU with greater-than-750M performance within ~50 W (the 750M's TDP). (The highest-end part in the M300 series is the M375, a Cape Verde with DDR3. The DDR3 could be a bottleneck but Apple might use a currently unreleased GPU.)
MBP Broadwell - June. MBP Skylake - Next year. That's my guess.
With this update in June we'll likely get better discrete GPU as well. Unless Apple skips discrete GPUs totally now... But that makes it a bit redundant to have a high end MBP option then, so I guess they will keep a discrete GPU in there somewhere.
With this update in June we'll likely get better discrete GPU as well. Unless Apple skips discrete GPUs totally now... But that makes it a bit redundant to have a high end MBP option then, so I guess they will keep a discrete GPU in there somewhere.
rMBP badly needs redesign. is looking clunky and outdated.
I remember when the first unibody macbook pro released they were as portables as they could ever get. Now they are clunky and outdated...
I think they will upgrade this June with Broadwell and they will defintely redesign next year with Skylake.
They for certain will use the new keyboard. It is something Apple created and they have been bragging about it, so I don't see how they could only use it on the MacBooks.
I think they will redesign it by making slimmer, add USB-C, Wireless charging, and Tocuh ID, and it will come in Gold, Space Gray and Silver.
rMBP badly needs redesign. is looking clunky and outdated.
Where do you get that idea? Call me biased because my rMBP is only a little over a year old, but I don't see how it looks "clunky and outdated".
I think you're about half right. Wireless charging and Gold - I don't think those are things they need (or want) in their Pro Flagship.
And I'm afraid the reception to the new MacBook keyboard was so lukewarm that they wouldn't risk using it. At least not without some substantial improvements or refinements.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a Skylake model released around Feb. or March of next year. I hope they can make Broadwell happen a little earlier than has been expected recently - June would be quite impressive!
I think everyone is thinking too much into this. It's going to be the same upgrade as the 13".
Broadwell (Maybe, definitely not Skylake)
Force touch
Faster SSD
Upgraded GPU
It's going to be the tock of rMBP refreshes equal to what Broadwell brings. Next year with Skylake I can certainly see a whole new design.
Broadwell (Maybe, definitely not Skylake)
Force touch
Faster SSD
Upgraded GPU
It's going to be the tock of rMBP refreshes equal to what Broadwell brings. Next year with Skylake I can certainly see a whole new design.
Yes, it basically just added one hour to the battery life (the SSD got faster but that is not a CPU feature, maybe is related to motherboard changes).
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It doesn't.
That is my understanding (and reason for waiting) as well. They could probably redesign it to have two TB busses but that likely would mean more power-hungry components and could require a more significant redesign. I'd think they much rather wait for Skylake than do this.
To add context, the 15" MBP uses HQ (ie, H in this graph) processors. The 13" MBP, the MBAs and the Mac mini use U processors. The iMacs use K, R, and S processors (except for the 1.4 GHz 21.5" model which uses a U processor), which I think rank as desktop processors above the H line.
Seems many hope it's this one. Plus, down the road when NVIDIA is sued into out-of-warranty repairs, all 650/750/850 series chips might be covered too
rMBP badly needs redesign. is looking clunky and outdated.
I think they should just do very subtle refinements and upgrades for the next 2 gens. >1.5mm travel butterfly keys? sure. Trackpad? sure. Enhanced screen lamination with stronger scratch-resistant antireflective nano-coat? PLEASE.
I really don't get the gold thing. That color just couldn't get any tackier IMO. I hope for just a stealth matte black which develops the nice scratched patina like the iP5. It gave it character. They probably will shave 1-2 mm off the thing sooner or later.
I need a true enthusiast laptop, and Apple doesn't make one.
I want a 17" screen. CPU should be some sort of i7 with 8 or 10 cores. With that many cores in a mobile chip, I'm hoping there would be no room for foolish Intel "on board" graphics. Step off, Intel, just step off!
Needless to say, I require a discrete graphic card, maybe something like a mobile Nvidia GTX 690 (yeah, I know it hasn't been invented yet; I'm just sayin'...). Memory should be no less than 32 GB, and internal SSD should be available up to 4 TB. Hey, if I have to hook up any external disk that doesn't say "backup disk" in a sticker that I made, then this really isn't a laptop, is it?
THIS would be an apple laptop that I would order. And I would name it Banshee. Or Dingodog. I should be able to name it anything I want, since this laptop would probably cost in excess of $6,000, right?
Anyway, get off your lazy butts Apple. Give us who will spend the money a real 17" laptop solution, or a 19" in a 17" form-facter (no bezel). Stop with this anemic onboard graphic game, and puh-lease with the weakling 512 GB SSD options; These are non-enthusiast machines you're making and honestly you're just wasting my time.
I want a 17" screen. CPU should be some sort of i7 with 8 or 10 cores. With that many cores in a mobile chip, I'm hoping there would be no room for foolish Intel "on board" graphics. Step off, Intel, just step off!
Needless to say, I require a discrete graphic card, maybe something like a mobile Nvidia GTX 690 (yeah, I know it hasn't been invented yet; I'm just sayin'...). Memory should be no less than 32 GB, and internal SSD should be available up to 4 TB. Hey, if I have to hook up any external disk that doesn't say "backup disk" in a sticker that I made, then this really isn't a laptop, is it?
THIS would be an apple laptop that I would order. And I would name it Banshee. Or Dingodog. I should be able to name it anything I want, since this laptop would probably cost in excess of $6,000, right?
Anyway, get off your lazy butts Apple. Give us who will spend the money a real 17" laptop solution, or a 19" in a 17" form-facter (no bezel). Stop with this anemic onboard graphic game, and puh-lease with the weakling 512 GB SSD options; These are non-enthusiast machines you're making and honestly you're just wasting my time.
Thanks. I actually found the first one shortly before I posed the question. I didn't find it helped much, since it was almost a year old. That is, there wasn't enough information at the time.
The second helped a little more, I guess. It sounds like people are putting a lot of hope in something they know little about (good thing that never happens in presidential elections
).It sounds like battery life, Thunderbolt 3, and more displays (and/or 5K support) might be useful. But nothing magical. I thought maybe I'd missed some good, hard intel on it, but apparently not. That might explain why people are so excited about it - it's that unopened Christmas present which holds more promise than one box could ever contain. If only it were as great when the wrapping came off ...
I'd second that, and add that the people holding out for Skylake now will be holding out for its successor next year.
I ordered a MacBook Pro 13" before the apple watch event (maybe a week before) and I got upgraded to the new one