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Great, now I have a sick feeling after reading all of this that my refurb macbook pro was a bad decision, and I haven't even got the laptop yet!

Don't worry dude, I just bought one of the prior generation MBP's and they're sooooo nice. Enjoy your $500 bucks!
 
Great, now I have a sick feeling after reading all of this that my refurb macbook pro was a bad decision, and I haven't even got the laptop yet!

a small % of people are having the issues. none of us want to be next, but don't let it ruin your experience. enjoy your mac!
 
And of course you'll disclose everything to the next buyer right? ;)

Absolutely I will. I even had my machine run through the "special GPU test" and a stress test at the Genius Bar. It passed with flying colors, which I can tell the buyer (for what that information is worth).

Do you have AppleCare? If not you've still got an extended warranty on a computer that you have declared fine and free of any symptoms. You can make yourself feel better and grab AppleCare for an additional year so you're covered.

But I don't want to dump another $300 into this same machine just for one more year's "peace of mind". I think maybe I'd have more peace of mind with a new MBP, even though I then would be stuck with a computer I don't love as much. And then I wrote that...I'm now veering back to going down with the ship!!! LOL I really, really do not like the new MBP models.
 
I notice two things about the new MBP:

1. The screen/lid can easlily flip open when on its side, like the magnet latch is not powerful enough.

2. Noticed a slight warpage in the screen/lid when closed causing a gap on either side of the magnetic latch just like the old MBP latch type screen/lids had a gap.
 
Well for all the haters out there, I have had mine now for a few weeks and I love it.
 
I got the older one because it isn't a rev A product. Even with the supposed problems with the graphics card, it was worth it to me. Plus I personally don't find the new ones all that much better.

Deals can be had out there for the older machines. For 800 less than a new MBP, I got a 2.4 penryn. 1050 from ebay after coupon and live search cash back.
 
Have fun convincing yourself you made the right choice when you sit it side by side a new one ( fault free of course :)).
 
Congratulations...!

Congratulations. You saved a bunch of money... and your GPU is actually warranted for longer than it would have been on a new model. :D Ironic, ain't it?

I'm on my eighth month with my refurb MBP, and it's been flawless. Sure, something can always go wrong, but as far as electronic purchases that's always the case. So far, so good.

I run smcFanControl and have created several different speed settings that I use, and for 90% of the time I run the fans at 2500rpm. I call that "real light cooling," as I name all my fan settings. I've got six settings - default: 2000rpm; real light cooling: 2500rpm; light cooling: 3000rpm; higher speed: 4000 rpm; max chilldown: 5500rpm; and top speed: 6000rpm.

Obviously you can create your own settings, but I find it routine to just monitor my temps on top of the screen, and manually speed things up if the temps start to climb over 120-125F. Most of the time they hover between 108F and 118F, unless I put a big video processing load on it. For typical multi-tasking (FF 3, iTunes, Aperture, Google Earth, OpenOffice, Crossover running Windows Office 2000, Dreamweaver...) it usually stays fairly cool, and well within the range I want it to.

It's not just heat that's the enemy of the GPU (all of them) but more importantly it's the constant swing from cold to hot, up and down as laptops are closed, put to sleep, transported, etc over the course of a day, compared to a desktop machine. If that temp range is reduced considerably, and temps maintained within a very reasonable range, I think it could make all the difference in the world over the long haul. I'm not a believer in stressing the hell out of my machine just to make it fail so I can get warranty work on it done. I like to take care of my machines, even though I do expect them to do the job. It's more than cosmetic care, (which some folks are more interested in with all the protective covers, etc,) but it's knowingly keeping the temps steady... and reasonably low.

Some folks would rather take the position that if they paid $$$ for it, they should be able to just run the hell out of it without any consideration for how they could help it last. That's their choice, but I haven't had any warranty issues for a long time with almost anything I've purchased. I don't think I'm all alone in this, but you mainly hear from those who have complaints, and not those who are just happy plugging away doing work.

Enjoy your refurb MBP Classic, and just don't go looking for every little nitpicky thing to complain about. If you treat it right, it will last a long time. And if something goes wrong, Apple has the industry best standard of customer service, bar none. Don't let the horror stories sour you on what should be a happy, productive time with a great laptop, one of the best ever made. Still got Consumer Reports top ranking again this year, not that they're the last word on things, but they are non-biased and the MBP Classic rated tops, even though it was not the cheapest laptop in it's class.

Anyway, congrats again. :)
 
I just bought a new old (classic) MBP 2.4 from MacMall - with rebate $1299 + $14.67 shipping. I also picked up AppleCare for $204 on Ebay, so I'm good for three years, and I'll probably sell it within that period.

Anyway, I was and still am somewhat concerned about the 8600 issue, but to say that the new one is flawless is a bit of a leap. We don't know what kinds of issues might crop up with it, but it appears that both the new MBs and MBPs have their share of problems already - just look at the threads here.

Also, I've heard that all MBPs manufactured after September have a new 8600 that has been repaired. Hopefully that is true and mine, which will arrive on Wednesday, will have been built in late September.
 
There is nothing wrong with the classic MBP. It is an amazing design, and frankly better looking than the new design. If they had just updated the previous design with the unibody structure and fit and finish, it would have been much more appealing.

Maybe I just miss my PowerBook, but my new MBP doesn't "wow" me with it's design like every other Apple product ever has. The thing that wows me the most is how tightly everything fits together.

Congrats on the MBP.
 
I just bought a new old (classic) MBP 2.4 from MacMall - with rebate $1299 + $14.67 shipping. I also picked up AppleCare for $204 on Ebay, so I'm good for three years, and I'll probably sell it within that period.

Anyway, I was and still am somewhat concerned about the 8600 issue, but to say that the new one is flawless is a bit of a leap. We don't know what kinds of issues might crop up with it, but it appears that both the new MBs and MBPs have their share of problems already - just look at the threads here.

Also, I've heard that all MBPs manufactured after September have a new 8600 that has been repaired. Hopefully that is true and mine, which will arrive on Wednesday, will have been built in late September.


Which MBP are you talking about, the $1299 is a 2.2ghz, theres one on there for $1349. Does macmall charge tax?
 
I bought the 2.4 - total was $1464.85 (1449 + 14.86 s/h) - then there is a $200 rebate. I noticed that this one is now $1499 w/150 rebate, but for some reason this is how it came out in my cart and checkout. I'll take it.
 
I was in the Apple store yesterday and they had the new mbp next to the classic mbp 17" and I still like the classic design so much better, the new one looks kind of cheep with the black keys ? Maybee a all black aluminum wold of been sweet or the keys should of silver been like the classic ?
 
me too

i just bought a 2.4ghz old mbp and i am stoked with it, its awesome, its been working like a dream (fingers crossed), the gpu problem is not as common as you think, i have 2 friends with penryn mbps and they bootcamp graphic intensive games like crysis daily and have no probs whatsoever after 5 months, maybe some countries have more issues with their gpus than others cause australia seems to hear of it but rarely get it. i dunno how people can call it outdated tecnology cause compared to the new mbp, performance wise there is very little difference, i am super happy with my saving of $700 on my OLD mbp!
 
I bought an old 2,5 ghz model 2 weeks ago too, saved almost 1000 €! :)

The performance increase between old and new is almost non-existent, apart from that I only paid approximately the new 2,4 gz macbooks price! ;)

Plus I don't have to see my face in the mirror all the time while I use the laptop.

As for the gpu issue, I just hope I have a good one and if not, hey, that's what warranties are for.

The oldschool mbp is more or less the last actual "pro" laptop to come from apple for a while (I hope that they release something better in 2-3 years than these new Mac-"let's check my myspace profile and see if my hair is right at the same time before I leave for the party"-Books). Like someone already mentioned, have fun with the dust behind the screens. My iMac has this problem too and according to Apple that's not a warranty issue but a "wear and tear" issue. If it wasn't for a very nice reseller who repaired it for me I would be stuck with an extremely ugly smudge-behind-the-screen iMac. I can only imagine how "cool" this must look on the new 13" + 15" MacBooks.
 
I returned the new MBP and ordered a classic from Apple.

Came today and I'm really excited. Used the money I saved to buy some RAM, a wacom drawing tablet, apple care and a foofbag.
 
I'll get a new MBP from colourware

I like my carpet matching the curtains uhm I mean keys matching the keyboard.
 
not sure

I bought the 2.4 - total was $1464.85 (1449 + 14.86 s/h) - then there is a $200 rebate. I noticed that this one is now $1499 w/150 rebate, but for some reason this is how it came out in my cart and checkout. I'll take it.


not really sure which machine this is, I have been watching pricing there for a week now, and haven't seen this unit pop up for less than 1349$, which is 1499$ minus a 150$ rebate.
 
not really sure which machine this is, I have been watching pricing there for a week now, and haven't seen this unit pop up for less than 1349$, which is 1499$ minus a 150$ rebate.

Could he have bought a Santa Rosa 2.4GHz MBP? :confused:
 
new

my new but old MBP just came, 2.5/250/15.3 MATTE BABY.

Manufacture date says Sept FOURTH week. When did they stop making these things, I mean they came out with the new one like 10/15 right, and they HAD them in stock, so they MUST have started making them like the FOURTH week or Septebmer or so.

This must have been some of the last batch maybe, or do people think they would have continued for a while to make the older models for some time?
 
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