Just looked at the new Mac Book Pro

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by digitalcuriosity, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. digitalcuriosity macrumors regular

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    There sure has been a lot of changes made to this Mac and a lot of them i sure dislike, It's not the real solid build as my older Mac Book Pro and i don't like needing an external CD drive to load old programs.
    and the removing of all the input out put slots in the body is just a mistake IMHO.
    There asking a lot mote money and giving us less in quality and a lot less in the Mac's build.
     
  2. Apple 26.2 Contributor

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    So, did you buy or just play around with it at the store? Which model are/were you previously using?
     
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    The quality has skyrocketed. You're just bad at evaluating product design, or perhaps didn't spend enough time with the machine.

    Also: CD drive?! What the heck are you talking about?
     
  4. The Mercurian macrumors 65816

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    I have to say I agree. Its just not solid enough - feels like a toy.

    Yes I'm saying its too thin and light
     
  5. maflynn Moderator

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    I have to disagree, while not an owner of the new MBPs, one of the big positives I came away with in playing with one, is its solid feel.
     
  6. bizack macrumors 6502

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    So many misspells in this post, but... yeah, they definitely should bring back a CD drive, an Ethernet port, some big ass HDDs and maybe a handle or something to carry it around.
     
  7. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Agreed with maflynn. The build quality feels sensational. Certainly my 2012 15" isn't built as well – issues with the plastic on the hinge breaking away, for instance.

    What older MacBook Pro do you have? I can't imagine which one feels more sturdy.
     
  8. kre62 macrumors 68000

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    100% agree. Took mine back after a day because it felt flimsy and cheap. Processing power wasnt there either, my 4 year old windows machine feels faster.

    I feel the same way about the iphone 7. Apples current product line is weak.
     
  9. digitalcuriosity thread starter macrumors regular

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    Here is a picture of my Solid Built old Mac Book Pro. it's a really solid machine you can pick it up and not feel it flexing.
     

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  10. ipodlover77 macrumors 65816

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    You probably can't feel the flex as the machine is twice as thick.
     
  11. ryannel2003 macrumors 68000

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    I don't know what MacBook Pro you picked up but my nTB 13" Pro has been the most solidly built Apple laptop in recent memory. I've owned several plastic MacBooks, 2 13" rMBP and two 13" MBP like the one you have above and this laptop surpasses all of those.
     
  12. maflynn Moderator

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    I'd say the same thing with the new model as well
     
  13. digitalcuriosity thread starter macrumors regular

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    I just posted my thoughts in regards to the new Mac Book Pro, if others find them to have quality of build and like how they have removed items that people used without needing special interface devices, i say thats your right enjoy it. :)
     
  14. GalaDaliGirl macrumors regular

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    I went to Best Buy and played with the MBP for a few minutes. Then I asked about the Surface and the sales kid said "OMG I thought you'd never ask, it's awesome". I then played with the Surface for a few minutes and was blown away by the detachable display design and great touchscreen.

    If I had not bought a Yoga last year I would get a Surface. They are incredibly cool and miles ahead in features and functionality.

    The MBPro feel terrible and the TouchBar is such a joke.

    Steve Jobs had a term for joke features - VaporWare. This software terminology can be applied to TouchBar.
     
  15. The Mercurian macrumors 65816

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    Can't agree with you about the iphone 7 - best phone ever
     
  16. digitalcuriosity thread starter macrumors regular

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    If Steve Jobs were still alive and heading up Apple today, these poor examples of their Computer iPads and Phones would never be happening.
    Sadly like so many other great products when new people are in control and making money is the most important item, things start going down hill.
     
  17. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    This thread is just plain too funny! Are people trying out new material for their comedy acts?
     
  18. Sanpete macrumors 68020

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    Vaporware is stuff that doesn't exist. I assure you, touch bars do exist. I suspect those who have actually spent more than a few moments with a machine are in a better position to judge it.
     
  19. Miltz macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah I would love to see a user upgradable 3.5 inch hardrive. I can't believe the new crappy models don't come with one.
     
  20. Gav.Winters macrumors member

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    I think there might be a backhanded compliment somewhere in you saying it's too thin and light. The touch bar criticism is unfair in my opinion, once developers get to grips with it a contextualised functions bar could prove to be really useful.
     
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  22. Alexanderyan macrumors newbie

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    Especially the bottom
     
  23. Newtons Apple macrumors P6

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    I ordered but cancelled after hearing about some of the problems.

    I did go the MS Store and looked at the top of the line Surface book with 512ssd and performance base and WOW!

    The screen was fantastic and it was really fast. Buttery smooth even on complicated web pages. I am thinking it could be for me!
     
  24. digitalcuriosity thread starter macrumors regular

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    My Cuz's grand daughter in Calif went with a MS Surface and she could not be more happy with it. Seems MS has now got the Surface right.
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    This is my old Mac Book Pro bought in 2011 and still going strong, maybe it's not as quick or as powerful as the new MBP, but fast enough and powerful enough for my needs.

    MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2011) - Technical Specifications

    Size and weight

    • Height: 0.95 inch (2.41 cm)
    • Width: 12.78 inches (32.5 cm)
    • Depth: 8.94 inches (22.7 cm)
    • Weight: 4.5 pounds (2.04 kg)1
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  25. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    Steve Jobs was better at convincing people that they needed something that they didn't than the current people in charge. There is a good chance the same or similar products would be coming out if he were in charge. The only difference would be in how they are introduced which would probably get people more excited about them.
     

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