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The machine is NOT faster than a Mac Pro. Both machines have processors based on the Nehalem architecture and hence perform pretty equal clock per clock. Given that 2.8GHz is considerably higher than 2.3GHz, the Mac Pro is undoubtedly faster.

The 2.3GHz is based on the Sandy Bridge architecture, not Nehalem.
 
If you have a PS3 and a thunderbolt port (AKA Mini-DisplayPort) to HDMI adapter.

Could you test to see if it works (PS3 to MBP: audio, "lagness", test a few games etc.)?
And at what resolution it shows at?

Or, if you don't have a PS3, could you try it with a blu ray drive.

If you don't have either / adapter: thanks, anyway.
 
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Fan noise seems the same, hardrive might be 1% louder...
 
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Fan noise seems the same, hardrive might be 1% louder...
I went with SSD so hopefully I get some noise reduction there. Would be a little bit of a buzz kill for me if there was no noise reduction on the fans :(
 
So far I've been using the mbp only non auto graphics checked and my fan has been at 2000 rpm this whole time. CPU is at 60 celsius and 58 for the GPU. :D
 
So far I've been using the mbp only non auto graphics checked and my fan has been at 2000 rpm this whole time. CPU is at 60 celsius and 58 for the GPU. :D

What's auto graphics? Does this mean it doesn't use the GPU on battery? That would be sweet, is this new in this version?
 
So far I've been using the mbp only non auto graphics checked and my fan has been at 2000 rpm this whole time. CPU is at 60 celsius and 58 for the GPU. :D
Got anything GPU intensive on there? Game perhaps? I find that my fan noise goes crazy from either encoding, gaming, or just multitasking like crazy.
 
Got anything GPU intensive on there? Game perhaps? I find that my fan noise goes crazy from either encoding, gaming, or just multitasking like crazy.

No gaming on my part only have vmware fusion opened with about 10 tabs on safari with one flash.
 
Congrats on your purchase, if you get a chance I'm interested in speed of handbrake encodes. Encoding is supposed to be optimized on the new Sandy bridge chips, would like to know how much.

I appreciate it if you can do it.
 
If you have a PS3 and a thunderbolt port (AKA Mini-DisplayPort) to HDMI adapter.

Could you test to see if it works (PS3 to MBP: audio, "lagness", test a few games etc.)?
And at what resolution it shows at?

Or, if you don't have a PS3, could you try it with a blu ray drive.

If you don't have either / adapter: thanks, anyway.

Amazing if this can work! PS3 or Xbox 360 directly plugged into a notebook would be amazing.
 
Amazing if this can work! PS3 or Xbox 360 directly plugged into a notebook would be amazing.

Yes, the fact that the mDP is now a TB port may mean that video in is possible. I would imagine that you would still need software support for this though, which I doubt Apple does. Windows maybe?
 
Yes, the fact that the mDP is now a TB port may mean that video in is possible. I would imagine that you would still need software support for this though, which I doubt Apple does. Windows maybe?

I don't know if it will work in Windows, as, I think, Windows only supports MDP, and not the Light Peak "part" of Thunderbolt. So, it'll depend if Windows can differentiate between the MDP part and the Light Peak part. If it can then it'll define it as a MDP, if it can't it'll search for drivers and say it's an unknown device.

However, on Apple's website, it says, "...you can connect HDMI..." But, it doesn't mention PS3, xbox or blu ray drives. Theoretically, it should work with a simple MDP -> HDMI (HDMI in PS3 and MDP in the thunderbolt port), but there's a problem with scaling, and as there is probably no software support, you will need to try Windows, or a expensive scaler.
 
Congratulations to the OP on his new 17 inch MBP. It's a powerful machine, which I am sure will give you many years of excellent service.

Pay no attention to twits who pop off with nastiness such as saying that paying nearly $3,000 for your MBP was "insane." Nasty remarks like that are a hallmark of jealousy, not analysis. In 2003 I paid nearly $3,200 for a 17 inch Powerbook G4. Looked at from that perspective, the price you paid for your MBP was a bargain.

Can someone explain why the 2.3GHz quad core i7 costs $250 more than the 2.2GHz quad core? I understand that the 2.3GHz chip has more modern architecture but the price difference still surprised me.
 
For anyone with one of the new machines, please post what model you have along with results from running Cinebench 11.5, it's a free download:

http://www.maxon.net/fr/downloads/cinebench/cinebench-115.html

The graphics score is pretty useless, what's useful here are the single-threaded and multi-threaded CPU scores.

For comparison, here are the results from my 17" (last year's model) 2.66GHz dual-core, with the CPU results highlighted:

CORES=2
LOGICALCORES=2
MHZ=2660.000000
PROCESSOR=Intel Core i7 CPU M 620
OPENGLVENDOR=NVIDIA Corporation
OPENGLCARD=NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M OpenGL Engine
OPENGLVERSION=2.1 NVIDIA-1.6.10
CBTYPE=64 BIT
OSVERSION=OS X 10.6.3
CBCPU1=1.058386
CBCPUX=2.540215

CBOPENGL=13.591311
CBOPENGLQUALITY=99.411453
C4DINFO=MacBook Pro 17" Core i7 8GB
C4DVERSION=11.529
C4DBUILDID=RC23933demo
 
Please turn it around and have a look at the screws. What tyoe of screws are there?

The screws are the same as before. There are no oddities so far. I've replaced my new 17" Pro's HDD with my SSD and it only took a small Philips to get there. I'll do the swap out of the Superdrive later on but I think that should be the same, too.
 
If you have a PS3 and a thunderbolt port (AKA Mini-DisplayPort) to HDMI adapter.

Could you test to see if it works (PS3 to MBP: audio, "lagness", test a few games etc.)?
And at what resolution it shows at?

Or, if you don't have a PS3, could you try it with a blu ray drive.

If you don't have either / adapter: thanks, anyway.

You can't use the MBP's display for a PS3, if that's what you're implying.
 
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