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Just tried the new keyboard on the MacBook Pro
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I hated the new home button on the iPhone 7 for the first day or 2. Now the home button on the 6s feels weird to me. The brain adjusts.
Which is why I am HAPPY I bought my MacBook pro back in january at a discount. My first and only MacBook it seems
Exactly, when the new home butt was demo'ed, a lot of people were like, "eww weird, not sure if I'd like this." Now people are like, "I can't imagine it being analog anymore." (see the Techno Buffalo IP7+ long term review)
I am also not a big fan of the new keyboard and agree they should no have changed it. Maybe they can improve it and add more travel and most sculpting to the keys
So you are saying there is more travel on the new model? I tested out a macbook for a good hour at the store a few weeks ago and liked it. It didn't have that prominent click is the only thing i remember it feeling like. A softer feeling but i could type super fast on it.the magic keyboard has slightly more travel than the MacBook Pro, but not by much. It is actually just magic keyboard 1. The first keyboard was not called magic keyboard
As someone who owns the 12" rMB, 13" Pro without TB, and the Magic Keyboard I have a good idea how they all feel.
12" = lowest travel
13" Pro = right in the middle
magic keyboard = most travel, but still less than the original pro, air, etc.
Just got test them in store before you buy if you are worried. Don't assume b.c you hate the 12" keyboard you will hate the Pro keyboard. They are slightly different, and it could have enough travel to change your mind. I personally like all of them. I think the new Pro is the best of the 3.
The new keyboard has a more prominent click right? I think that will be a big improvement over the MacBooks keyboard.
absolutely more of a click than the rMB. The buttons feel less squishy and more clicky if that makes sense.
I really hope you're not trying to compare adjusting to one button on a smart phone to a keyboard...
why not? the point is that in both cases a fundamental element of the user experience has been modified, and in both cases the brain adjusts.
It's just like when the iPhone did away with the analog keyboard.
People who don't like the new butterfly keyboard are probably typing with too much finger force anyway.
"You're typing it wrong"!
To be frank, I thought all the apple chiclet keyboards besides the USB / Bluetooth keyboards were cheap feeling, very flimsy feeling (the usb was a little firmer). Nothing compared to the non-uni MBP / Powerbook keyboards.
But then again, I really like the new butterfly keyboards...
I was the same in the beginning, but now I prefer it over their normal keyboards. Took me a month or two to adjust.
And since Apple claims the new MBP basically has "version 2" of this new type of keyboard (my MB12 has "version 1"), it should be just fine.
And since Apple claims the new MBP basically has "version 2" of this new type of keyboard (my MB12 has "version 1"), it should be just fine.
The standard keyboard was best-in-class (non-mechanical) for a decade... the MacBook butterfly keyboard was less pleasant than the Surface's god-awful first gen keyboard.
People were not quiet about this... the shouting was loud, and angry... if the new Macbook Pros keyboard is basically an identical experience to the Macbook... I am totally flabbergasted. How can they replace Best-in-Class with Worst-in-Class. Are they all drunk?
People were not quiet about this... the shouting was loud, and angry... if the new Macbook Pros keyboard is basically an identical experience to the Macbook... I am totally flabbergasted. How can they replace Best-in-Class with Worst-in-Class. Are they all drunk?
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Because the usage case is significantly different... I was fine with using both buttons, because 99% of the time I used the button to open the phone.
The keyboard is completely different. One is because it has many keys. Second is that the functionality of the keyboard is much more vast than a single home button. If I want to use a shortcut on premiere pro, I will have to rely on one-four keys pressed in quick succession. Also is the fact that the home button is all software based, whereas the keyboard still has switches.
It would be a better analogy to compare the home button to the track pad. Both are very "simple" in what they accomplish, and because of software implementation, they both feel very similar to their predecessors.
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I really can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. But if you're not, god bless your soul and your lack of exposure to actual keyboards
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Eh, to each their own. I'm fine with people who already like the butterfly keyboard to begin with. But making silly analogies of comparing the home button to the keyboard? Lol
Just tried it in Apple Store. It's really bad. All they had to do was copy the Magic Keyboard (which is great).
Here are my more in-depth thoughts:
What I enjoyed about the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air keyboards were both the tight feeling and relatively deep travel when pressing buttons. I can type for hours on this keyboard and not get tired.
What I dislike heavily about the MacBook is the imbalance of these two traits - quality of feeling (QoF), and travel. The MacBook's keyboard is by far one of the best in terms of QoF. When you press down on the keyboard, you REALLY feel it pressing down. I've used $100-1000 mechanical keyboards, and even then I can say that they are better than the MacBook's, but not by much.
In terms of travel, it's absolute ****. You experience the wonderful QoF from the MacBook keyboard, but it is short lived. It's like only having the chance to have one bite into a very nice piece of steak. If Apple could have the QoF of a butterfly switch keyboard and the depth of their regular keyboard, I can say without a doubt it would be the best one on the market for laptops. But instead, they make horrible compromises. And why? FOR THE SAKE OF THINNESS!
For the new MacBook Pro keyboard, the travel is noticeably deeper, but not much more so. So with my analogy, it's like taking another bite of a steak, but again, short-lived.
I hope that answers your question.
Actually there was quite a bit of backlash when Apple introduced the unibody Macs with the flat black chiclet keyboards in late 2008. A lot of people whined about the change and how much better the prior silver indented/shaped keyboards were. People said the older keys were smoother, more durable, and easier to touch-type on.
So no, the prior-gen keyboards on the Macbook Pros were not universally praised. There were many disagreements at first, but people got used to it, then saw how in some ways they were better, and then eventually loved them.
Now history repeats itself again, but with the butterfly keyboards this time.
Is there also a clicking sound when pressing the keys, more than the sound of clicking the old MacBook Pro keys?
i cant wait to give the butterfly 2.0 a try in stores,
i'm going to type up a paper and hang out for 2-3 hours to get a real grasp for it, compared to rMB
not at all in the market for 2016, anyways,
i'm going to type up a paper and hang out for 2-3 hours to get a real grasp for it, compared to rMB
not at all in the market for 2016, anyways,
For anyone who wants to try it and doesn't have an Apple Store near them (if they're even displaying the non-touch bar one yet) it's worth calling up a local Best Buy to see if they do. I went in on Saturday and they already had the 13" out to try.
Guys, does the base MacBook pro without touch have the 2nd gen butterfly keyboard? Or is it the 1st gen butterfly keyboard (like the ones in the rMB)? Thanks