Here in Belgium we retire between 50 and 65, this is definitely not an early retirement.
It's sad but unfortunately it's o so true...
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Key iOS Engineering Executive Henri Lamiraux Retires from Apple
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It's sad but unfortunately it's o so true...
http://www.oecd.org/els/emp/Summary_2011+values3dec2012.xls
Europe effective age is more between 58 and 61
You really hate something that you haven't tried yet? Or have you tried it and downgraded right away? Either way, you're missing out.
Exactly... And it is not like this guy was in senior leadership. While I am sure his contributions were impressive and important, it is not like Ive or Federighi leaving. Some people in the forums think that any change is a recipe for disaster or a sure sign that Apple is doomed. I wonder how they sleep at night!
People come and go at big companies all the time. I don't know why it's such a big deal when it happens at Apple.
As someone who spends more time reading MR than posting on this forum, is iOS 7 bashing really a thing?
I love this release and have no problems with it at all. The guy retired, big deal. He was there for 23 years, earned an insane amount of stock value and is now going to enjoy his golden years in peace
Why does this have anything to do with iOS 7 being a bad OS?
I love this release and have no problems with it at all. The guy retired, big deal. He was there for 23 years, earned an insane amount of stock value and is now going to enjoy his golden years in peace
Why does this have anything to do with iOS 7 being a bad OS?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but an engineering exec is not a design or UX exec. He's responsible for things like do not disturb and how the gps works, not the color of the icons... right?
Greg Christie is the VP in charge of iOS UI and was listed on most patents with Scott Forstall.
Never mind about the products.
23 years with any one company is enough, and if you haven't gotten a promotion in 5 years, where is the challenge? where's the incentive to do the daily grind? Am sure the guy got enough stock to retire more than comfortably.
23 years with any one company is enough, and if you haven't gotten a promotion in 5 years, where is the challenge? where's the incentive to do the daily grind? Am sure the guy got enough stock to retire more than comfortably.
How can one hate a product, having never used it, never getting to know it. Sounds a bit luddite to me.
I'm with both of you. Always regrettable to see obvious talent leaving, but after 23 years of loyalty and contributions, I would say "Thanks Henri, and happy trails!"
Interesting his background is actually in Chemistry; also for curiosity's sake, I wonder if he actually started in 1990 with Apple as the article mentions, or with Next, and was thus transplanted to Apple after it's acquisition of the former.
If he was defecting to the phone/tablet divisions of Google, Microsoft or da-da-daaah... Samsung! I could understand the angst.
He's retiring, after 23 years working for Apple. People *do* retire, you know, especially if they've achieved what they wanted and have the opportunity to spend time with friends, family or just doing things that they haven't had time for.
I wouldn't read any more into this than that for one individual, the work/life balance has shifted in the life direction. That's it, move along, nothing to see...
He's retiring, after 23 years working for Apple. People *do* retire, you know, especially if they've achieved what they wanted and have the opportunity to spend time with friends, family or just doing things that they haven't had time for.
I wouldn't read any more into this than that for one individual, the work/life balance has shifted in the life direction. That's it, move along, nothing to see...
Why does everyone assume this has something to do with him disliking iOS 7? He probably made bank at Apple and has no need to keep working.
Yeah, that's why he decided "a little while back" that iOS 7 would be his last release.
Yea, that's kind of what happens when you plan on retiring smart guy. You plan on something ahead of time. But then again, you've probably never worked a serious career in your life and couldn't possibly relate. The man worked for 23 years. He went through another polarizing OS change before, Mac OSX, which was equally as polarizing in 2001.
"Hey guys, I really hate the direction of iOS 7, so I'm going to quit. But let me help with this monumental effort as my last project before I quit, because I hate it so much I want to actually be involved"
Yea, completely logical. He busted his ass on a monumental project inside Apple because he absolutely hated it, and then he quit after all the hard work was complete. Yep, makes perfect sense.
Or the more logical assumption, he wanted to go out with a bang and take on one last major engineering effort before retiring
I came onto the thread half expecting comments about how much this guy must have acquired in stock and pension rights in the last 20 odd years, but instead it seems to be an IOS7 hate-in session.
You only have one life. If you were sitting on a mid-sized fortune (how much? must be at least $20 million?) would you really think, "Oh no, I need to work another ten years."?
I retired eight years or so back when I was 54. I'm living very carefully but still buying the occasional Apple toy, telescope, motorbike, holiday cave in Spain... Got my bus pass, will start to draw my pension in a few years. I'm not rich but as long as I don't live too long the money will last out.
You only have one life. If you were sitting on a mid-sized fortune (how much? must be at least $20 million?) would you really think, "Oh no, I need to work another ten years."?
I retired eight years or so back when I was 54. I'm living very carefully but still buying the occasional Apple toy, telescope, motorbike, holiday cave in Spain... Got my bus pass, will start to draw my pension in a few years. I'm not rich but as long as I don't live too long the money will last out.
23 years with the company? wow.
That's not very long, actually. I worked for 12 years in my first career, and I'm now in the 15th year of my second career. I plan to work full-time at least another 15 years before I retire.
Even then, if my health permits it, I would continue to work part-time.
Not because of money. Because I love working, and time truly does fly when you're having fun.
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LOL You don't know what you're talking about. Normal retirement ages in Europe are between 65 and 67, 70 pending.
Here in Belgium we retire between 50 and 65, this is definitely not an early retirement.
We?
Excuse me, but standard retirement age is 65. Early retirement is possible at 60 if you have worked for 38 years. Some professions may retire a bit earlier, but let's not generalize that Belgians retire from 50 on, because they don't.
I think you're confusing retirement and when state pension payments kick in. If you have a private pension there's no reason why you can't start getting payments earlier.
Except that he was the engineering VP, in charge of APIs and feature development, not visual or interaction design.
