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I am not giving up on Intel either, but the reality is I am fully invested in the Apple ecosystem from Apple Watch to my M1 MacBook Pro. I still have a couple working Intel systems (Surface Pro 3 and 2015 Broadwell MBP). But they are long in the tooth. I’m hoping to maybe pick up something later this year when Windows 11 matures a little bit more. Windows 11 is on the SP3 but it’s basically unsupported.

With exciting announcements coming out of CES like 12th generation CPUs from Intel, AMD 6000, DDR5 RAM. I believe it’s an exiciting year ahead for the WinTel PC. I still want to keep an eye on the latest trends by still having a modern system around. Just can’t decide which brand to choose from. Dell looks iffy, looking at one of the Lenovo Extremes. Want something with Windows Hello though.
 
All the other companies currently designing their own ARM based CPU’s aren’t interested in the desktop PC market, they’re designing them for servers… Intel knows they need to move quickly into that market.

What do they need Intel for? There are lots of other choices, and the big ones can design their own.
 
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Hopefully he can do equally good work back at Intel again, and help them advance in the future. If this current gen iMac is the last Apple to be compatible with professional design & engineering applications, it'll be a real shame.
It is. I mean, unless they decide to develop for the Mac and if they haven’t by now, it’s unlikely. There are entire markets with very low Mac deployments, but I believe Apple’s swapped one for one (and then some) all of those sales for consumer sales and Apple’s interest in their applications very likely mirror’s those company’s interest in Apple’s customers.

I mean, I GUESS it’s possible that if someone comes up with a competing M1 only design/engineering package, they might make an effort if only to shore their marketshare from the new kid on the block (like how Microsoft making Office for the Mac shuts out anyone else from trying to make a successful office suite that could bite Microsoft in the future if they release a Windows compatible version). BUT, as these are likely expensive applications with a deep investment by the companies that depend on them, the avenue for a usurper is VERY close to zero?
 
I want to see Intel improve as well, as someone that still prefers Intel in my Windows PCs and not AMD for compatibility, Intel has performed better than my AMD tests. I also want to see Apple Silicon get much better too! Hopefully this doesn't hurt Apple too much.
Agreed. I bought into the Ryzen hype. Fine CPU's but AMD chipsets, drivers and the BIOS on the motherboards lag way behind Intel chipsets and drivers.

If you are building a PC, and stability is important stick with Intel. I just buy the NON-K CPU's since I never overclock, and they cool just fine. My current gaming PC has the 65watt 11700 NON-K.
 
If he’s responsible for T2 then no real loss

Too obscure

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The new 2021 Macbooks have fans with a default fan curve that triggers around 100C. Plus credit goes to TSMC 5nm.
"Plus credit goes to TSMC 5nm"

This can't be stated enough. Apple is not making the actual chips. Sure the design them but a HUGE par of the cool and quiet comes from the 5nm process of TSMC....soon to be 3nm.
 
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"Plus credit goes to TSMC 5nm"

This can't be stated enough. Apple is not making the actual chips. Sure the design them but a HUGE par of the cool and quiet comes from the 5nm process of TSMC....soon to be 3nm.
If I recall correctly, only TSMC and Samsung have chip factories. So Intel and AMD are not making their own actual chips either, just designing them too.
 
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Why do people think Intel will design anything ARM? They might and probably will manufacture ARM chips in the near future but they will not desing one, at least not with Intel branding on it.
 
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If I recall correctly, only TSMC and Samsung have chip factories. So Intel and AMD are not making their own actual chips either, just designing them too.

Intel does design and fabricate it's own chips but none of Intel, TMSC or Samsung matters when they are all constrained to one company: ASML

Reason why Intel lags behind is because they were so cocky that they ordered litography tech from ASML so far away into the future thinking they would be still milking consumers by the time it comes. That didn't work out for them but somehow they did sruvive first few waves from AMD, Apple and Amazon. I stand by my prediciton that once new stuff from ASML gets up and running it will put Intel back on the top for quite some time. Their manufacturing capabilities will be very high end and their designs will only need to be very good instead of excellent in order to excel and leap at least AMD. And dont' be surprised if Apple becomes a customer in M chip fabrication.
 
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Why do people think Intel will design anything ARM? They might and probably will manufacture ARM chips in the near future but they will not desing one, at least not with Intel branding on it.
Because an ARM design is the only way Intel will get to sell anything to Apple. In the unlikely event Intel comes out with a stupendous x86 Apple still won't use it, they're all-in with ARM.
 
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He's gone from changing the world to developing portable heating solutions for the world.

There's no amount of money that would lead me to leaving Apple to work for Intel.
 
Intel does design and fabricate it's own chips but none of Intel, TMSC or Samsung matters when they are all constrained to one company: ASML
That is what it was. I know NVIDIA, AMD, Apple Silicon and others rely on the same chip fabricators. I forgot Intel had their own too.
 
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