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I doubt they support Catalan,Andalusian, Cañarían Spanish and a whole host more.
Have you checked or are you or are you just naming random languages? Because a 10 second google shows Catalan is a supported language
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The latest update of Mac Os, also now include Apple AI stuff for the U.K, I have not updated yet, but I feel there is too much of this AI stuff.
 
I am happy that Apple continues to improve and support iWork. Not everyone needs MS office or wants to pay for it.
Is that what Apple calls them, I thought they were three separate apps. I must admit I do find Numbers and Pages useful, having used LibreOffice on Windows. My only problem is that the files produced by the Mac apps aren't compatible with LibreOffice, once again, it is a another file format. Really need to get these file formats as a standard. i know they can export as MS Office formats, but that don't always work correctly.

Saying that,I still like Pages and numbers, I don't think I will ever have a use for Keynote, but still nice for it to be available.
 
Stop. You got your Fortnite and your USB C connector.
I have no idea what you are on about with Fortnite, but as for USB C connectors, I doubt most people in the E.U care, this is the E.U thinking it will stop waste.

But saying that, everything is USB-C these days, so why should Apple be any difference? Should they have been forced? No, it should be up to them.

I am not in the E.U, I am in the U.K., but a lot of what happens in the E.U still affects us. I doubt very much if I will ever get an Iphone, too expensive for me. Even the price of a Iphone SE is more than I would pay for a phone.
 
Random languages? No, languages used in Spain which is part of the EU. Not every service Apple provides support for every EU language.
There are over 400 different Aboriginal dialects in Australia. I doubt Microsoft, Google or Apple have any of them in their languages. So what’s the point of randomly or even selectively naming one or two to make a point like you have?
 
Is that what Apple calls them, I thought they were three separate apps. I must admit I do find Numbers and Pages useful, having used LibreOffice on Windows. My only problem is that the files produced by the Mac apps aren't compatible with LibreOffice, once again, it is a another file format. Really need to get these file formats as a standard. i know they can export as MS Office formats, but that don't always work correctly.

Saying that,I still like Pages and numbers, I don't think I will ever have a use for Keynote, but still nice for it to be available.
Yeah, I think Apple still calls the entire suite of apps (Pages, Numbers, and Keynote) iWork. If you search on Apple's website, the three apps are shown under iWork. Kind of like Word, Excel, and Powerpoint are all under MS Office.
 
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I'm a bit disappointed with the implementation of Writing Tools. I was hoping that we would be able to step through changes, as in Notes, but it still presents the rewritten text as a block for you to accept or reject. Hopefully soon they'll fix that, as I like that Apple hasn't crammed AI in your face like Microsoft does.

I frequently use Pages and Numbers, but I haven't used Keynote for about a decade. I haven't used PowerPoint (or the rest of MS Office) since the 90s.
 
Yeah, I think Apple still calls the entire suite of apps (Pages, Numbers, and Keynote) iWork. If you search on Apple's website, the three apps are shown under iWork. Kind of like Word, Excel, and Powerpoint are all under MS Office.
Fair enough, I remember from years ago, some people saying about Iwork, I just thought it was Apple version of MS Works, something you could buy. i did not know it came with the computer.

MS works was pretty good in its day for the home user, I can understand why MS go rid of it as it was taking sales from MS office. Now for a lot of home users, there is free software that is very good, like LibreOffice and Open office, which is both the same really. Free office is another one.
Pages is superb, certainly for free.
 
Fair enough, I remember from years ago, some people saying about Iwork, I just thought it was Apple version of MS Works, something you could buy. i did not know it came with the computer.

MS works was pretty good in its day for the home user, I can understand why MS go rid of it as it was taking sales from MS office. Now for a lot of home users, there is free software that is very good, like LibreOffice and Open office, which is both the same really. Free office is another one.
Pages is superb, certainly for free.
iWorks, once a paid suite that they bundled and eventually made free, was a selling point for the Mac, similar to the OS that used to be a paid upgrade. The difference lay in Apple’s primarily hardware-focused nature versus Microsoft’s software-focused approach. (Rewritten with Apple Intelligence). 🥳
 
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These AI features are rushed, but they had to be, because everyone is doing it. I hope and expect they will get refined and be more useful.

I’d like to see the AI use my writing style when it makes changes. I’d also like to be able to use another chatbot. Hopefully, if Apple isn’t going to make a powerful enough AI, we’ll be able to
choose a third party AI, like we choose search engines.
 
We say the iWork software is free. But the computer, iPad or other Apple device have premium prices. So we do pay for the "free" software that runs only on Apple products.
I agree. Said another way; While you pay a premium for Apple products, one of the benefits is how tightly integrated the software is with the hardware across different devices. The productivity apps (Pages, Numbers, and Keynote) are just a few examples.
 
We say the iWork software is free. But the computer, iPad or other Apple device have premium prices. So we do pay for the "free" software that runs only on Apple products.
Apple are a premium quality product and can only be compared with aluminium body devices. You don’t get junk with Apple and they are cheaper than windows machines of the same quality. Cheaper windows laptops are actual crap.

Comparing a bare bones pc to a Mac Mini. Well there is no comparison. I believe the RAM/storage upgrade is the only product with the worst value. (shills, down vote me here ⬇️)
 
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So we do pay for the "free" software that runs only on Apple products.
Actually, Pages, Numbers and Keynote will run on a PC with iCloud. This is also true of other Apple apps; notes, photos, calendar, mail, contacts, etc..
 
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iWorks, once a paid suite that they bundled and eventually made free, was a selling point for the Mac, similar to the OS that used to be a paid upgrade. The difference lay in Apple’s primarily hardware-focused nature versus Microsoft’s software-focused approach. (Rewritten with Apple Intelligence). 🥳
I had a feeling Iworks was sold as I remember a friend saying they brought it years ago.
 
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We say the iWork software is free. But the computer, iPad or other Apple device have premium prices. So we do pay for the "free" software that runs only on Apple products.
The price of a Mac mini base model is pretty good compared to other machines. My brother have just paid £380 for an Acer tower, which has a Intel N100 Processor 8GB of ram and 256GB of storage. For another £229 it is possible to get a Mac Mini M4 with 16GB of ram and 256GB of storage, which is far more powerful and in a nice small compact package

May seem a lot more, but it is not for what you are getting.
Okay, my brother wanted a machine for office stuff and the Acer will do fine for that, but not really anything else.
I don't know about Iphones, never really looked into them, but people I know that have them, say it was a toss up between an iphone or a Samsung and the Iphone seemed better value.

I do agree that when you start adding ram and storage to Macs, that is where it gets to stupid prices, thankfully Apple have seen a bit of sense and started the Mac mini M4 with 16GB of ram, but I am not sure if that is more to the design of the hardware than choice.
 
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The 16GB of ram is necessary for proper operation of Apple's implementation of AI on their computers. They have also increased the memory inside the iPhones for the same reason.
so people with machines that have less ram willnotbe able to use Apple AI or will have problems with it? I thought Apple AI was online based, so it should not need any resources from the device.
 
so people with machines that have less ram willnotbe able to use Apple AI or will have problems with it? I thought Apple AI was online based, so it should not need any resources from the device.
I am using Apple AI on my base 8gb M2 MBA with the latest version of Sequoia 18.2. Smooth as butter. Not a hitch or an issue.
 
Apple increased ram on all of their their “M” processor Macs to 16GB just recently for AI reasons as most Apple AI runs on the Mac vs remote servers
That may be. All I know is that Apple Intelligence runs smoothly on my base 8GB M2 MBA with Sequoia 18.2. No problems.
 
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