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Wasn’t that answered in the post you quoted?
In his first post he talked about ugliness and how it looks. When I then pointed out elements with the shape of notch have been ubiquitous in computing for a long time (ie, it couldn't such an ugly thing that was a deal killer), he changed his point against the notch to be about the impracticality (and the resulting annoyance), based on it blocking one edge of a video (in landscape).
 
I want the best possible camera and battery life but I don’t want OLED or Face ID. So I guess there will be nothing for me to buy after the 8 Plus for many years. Better make it last.

lol. Its been 5 months since the 8 Plus came out bro. Take a chill pill, put your wallet in a locked safe or something.
 
I just don't think spending $1300 on a phone is worth it even though the display is sick. I don't mind spending $3k on a MacBook that I will get several years of use out of but I usually switch phones after two years and for me it's not really worthwhile. The 7 plus does everything I need it to and until that changes with some killer feature, I will continue to use it. Face ID is really not it. I actually prefer Touch ID and the way the home button works instead of pulling up cards to multitask. I guess iPhone X users get used to it like anything new, but it just doesn't feel natural to me.

That said, I've grown to not miss having the Function keys on a notebook. I actually love the Touch Bar with it's application specific buttons as well as its customization. Though I can see how it can be frustrating for those whose work relies on using the function keys all the time.
 
I just don't think spending $1300 on a phone is worth it even though the display is sick. I don't mind spending $3k on a MacBook that I will get several years of use out of but I usually switch phones after two years and for me it's not really worthwhile. The 7 plus does everything I need it to and until that changes with some killer feature, I will continue to use it. Face ID is really not it. I actually prefer Touch ID and the way the home button works instead of pulling up cards to multitask. I guess iPhone X users get used to it like anything new, but it just doesn't feel natural to me.

That said, I've grown to not miss having the Function keys on a notebook. I actually love the Touch Bar with it's application specific buttons as well as its customization. Though I can see how it can be frustrating for those whose work relies on using the function keys all the time.
At first I missed TouchID when I got my X. Nearly a month later, whenever I use my 6s (which I still have) or my iPad mini 4, it’s TouchID that doesn’t feel “natural” to me or at least like something’s not right. In other words, I’ve apparently adapted to the X. The home button on my 6s feels like a keyboard on a Blackberry or numpad on a flip phone, a relic of the tech past. My 6s still makes a great backup iPhone, but the X is definitely a level above it.
 
The 6.1 inch will be quite a bit smaller than the iphone 8 plus, but a little larger than the current iphone x, so....
The x plus will be about the same physical size as an 8 plus, but with a bigger screen, so...

Okay. that's for clearing that up. From some of the pics doing the rounds, it wasn't clear and it seemed the 6.5 was actually quite a bit bigger than an 8 Plus. Which seemed ridiculous.
 
I am confident that the notch was a design sacrifice and mark my words, in a few years they will get rid of it and acknowledgement of this sacrifice will be admitted only then.

There's no reason to believe it was a design sacrifice when it would have actually been easier to make the phone with a small bezel to hide the camera hardware going all the way across the phone, just like the Samsungs. Or they could have kept the screen's 'ears' black all the time in an effort to hide the fact that they're there.

But they didn't do either of those things, and went with the option that draws the most attention possible to the notch. They're even encouraging developers to not make apps that hide the notch by blacking out the ears.

This was a conscious decision made to solve two problems at once--how to advertise a bezel-free phone, and how to differentiate the iPhone from the competition in a world where all phones were starting to look alike. There's no mistaking an iPhone X with any other smartphone, and that's what they wanted.
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You're assuming people will actually stay within the ecosystem for that long. I think that the majority of people who wanted an iPhone X already have one, and the rest are lukewarm at best to its questionable design cues.

If the next batch of iPhones is as disappointing as the current generation, then the odds of me staying with an iPhone of some sort are greatly diminished. After 8 years of exclusively using iPhones and 10 years of using iOS, there is a very high probability that my next phone will be made by Samsung.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I have an X, realize that it's not perfect, but have zero plans to leave the ecosystem. For me it isn't just about the smartphone, but about everything else like iCloud and the way my iOS devices play nice with my Macs.

I could thoroughly hate the iPhone X (I don't), and I still wouldn't switch to something else because the phone is just one aspect of an ecosystem that's head and shoulders above anything else that's available. What would I switch to? The mish-mash that makes up Google/Android/Windows? No thanks, I tried it with a work phone a few years ago and I absolutely hated it.

The iPhone X could be absolutely horrible, and the solution would still be worse than the problem.
 
Let me get this straight. The majority here are already making their purchase decisions based on a research note published on January 28th??

The ONLY thing I believe is that Apple will produce a flagship model to compete with the Note... Otherwise...

Nobody is making any purchase decisions because the phones aren't available for purchase yet, but they know they'll be buying a new phone and are speculating about which one they'll get.

I already know I'll be getting a larger version of the iPhone X as long as they announce it as an option.
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Lol. That’s like putting a mound of poo on the front of a bmw to “differentiate” it from other brands. The notch is there because the technology cost is too expensive to put it under the screen. There are better ways to differentiate the iPhone than a notch.

The notch is there because they're able to move the time/battery/carrier info into otherwise wasted space, while also making the phone instantly recognizable as an iPhone.

Some you guys seem to think that it was an option to have screen space where the notch resides. The 'ears' could either have been blacked out (like Samsung phones) and just be wasted space, or they could be used for something. Apple chose to use that space for something.

The options were 'bezel across the whole top' or 'notch'. There's no downside to the notch design when you recognize that the usable space on the screen would have been less without a notch.
 
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At first I missed TouchID when I got my X. Nearly a month later, whenever I use my 6s (which I still have) or my iPad mini 4, it’s TouchID that doesn’t feel “natural” to me or at least like something’s not right. In other words, I’ve apparently adapted to the X. The home button on my 6s feels like a keyboard on a Blackberry or numpad on a flip phone, a relic of the tech past. My 6s still makes a great backup iPhone, but the X is definitely a level above it.

Yeah, this is why I mentioned the Touch Bar. At first it was strange but now it feels normal. When I got the 7 Plus, my first really large phone (had the iPhone 6 before), it took time getting used to it but now I couldn't go back to a smaller display. I guess I would embrace FaceID as well once I eventually get an iPhone or iPad with it. Whichever comes first. I'm still using an iPad Air so it's most likely that I would upgrade to a new iPad first before getting a new phone.
 
Umm, the shape isn't the problem. The problem is that there's a big hole in the screen that literally cuts out portions of videos when you're watching them. It is extremely annoying.

The notch doesn't block any part of a standard 16:9 video unless you zoom the video to full screen, in which case you're already cutting off the top and bottom of the image. Anyone that understands aspect ratios should be able to see this plain as day.
 
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This is very bad. And the keynote will have them touting this as the greatest bargain ever, they will mention LED screens in the rundown at the end. Literally stepping BACKWARDS from their progress.
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You don't remove features that those with LCD iPhone customers already have.


Why not? It’s a nice feature to have but by no means necessary, and many of its benefits can be recreated within apps with a long press which is good enough for most people. iPhone X and X Plus will be next Years flagships, SE 2 on the low end, Apple has to keep the midrange model price attractive.
 
I don't see how it could be 6.5 inch. That would bigger than the current Plus outside dimensions.

I hope they go a little smaller for the OLED Plus.

This thing sounds like it will be gigantic. I wish they would keep roughly the same dimensions as the Plus and make it all screen. I like the idea of a bigger screen, but this is "won't fit in my pocket" territory. Folding screens can't come soon enough.
 
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This thing sounds like it will be gigantic. I wish they would keep roughly the same dimensions as the Plus and make it all screen. I like the idea of a bigger screen, but this is "won't fit in my pocket" territory. Folding screens can't come soon enough.
A 6.5” version of the X wouldn’t need to be any taller or wider than the 8 Plus. However, it might be thicker and it would probably be heavier.
 
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Why not? It’s a nice feature to have but by no means necessary, and many of its benefits can be recreated within apps with a long press which is good enough for most people. iPhone X and X Plus will be next Years flagships, SE 2 on the low end, Apple has to keep the midrange model price attractive.
What about using 3Dtouch while relocating the cursor while typing, how is that replicated without 3dtouch? That’s the most important feature for me and many others and is second nature. Remove that capability and it’s a massive downgrade.

You mention keeping the mid range price down but how do you explain previous devices in the same price range having this feature and still costing the same? I won’t even entertain buying this iPhone if it’s skimping on features that I use. I might as well buy a better, older, cheaper iPhone. It’s counterproductive of Apple if true and a poor direction to follow. Being cheap for cheap sake and ignoring the needs of their customers.
 
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What about using touchID while relocating the cursor while typing, how is that replicated without touchid?

That's incorrect. You're not using "touch ID" to move the cursor, you're using 3D Touch on the display to hold down a Digital numeric to move the cursor.

If 3D Touch was not replicated on a device that no longer supports it in the future, then you would have to use the magnifying movement to move the cursor, unless Apple implements some other iOS feature otherwise.

That’s the most important feature for me and many others and is second nature. Remove that capability and it’s a massive downgrade

That is, IF someone actually has knowledge of what it is. Most have no idea how to move the cursor by using the 3D Touch option holding down a numeric Digital key.

However, you can't say that's a "Massive downgrade" if someone doesn't even know that the Digital cursor exists to begin with. I have told others about the digital cursor and they had no idea what it is, because they're not tech oriented to even figure it out and Apple doesn't really highlight this feature. So it can't be a massive downgrade if they didn't know about it to begin with.
 
That's incorrect. You're not using "touch ID" to move the cursor, you're using 3D Touch on the display to hold down a Digital numeric to move the cursor.

If 3D Touch was not replicated on a device that no longer supports it in the future, then you would have to use the magnifying movement to move the cursor, unless Apple implements some other iOS feature otherwise.
That’s what I meant. Apple would have to find an alternative as it’s a pretty fundamental feature for people who type a lot of their phones, essentially emails. Not having it would be a serious loss after getting used to it for the past three years.
That is, IF someone actually has knowledge of what it is. Most have no idea how to move the cursor by using the 3D Touch option holding down a numeric Digital key.

However, you can't say that's a "Massive downgrade" if someone doesn't even know that the Digital cursor exists to begin with. I have told others about the digital cursor and they had no idea what it is, because they're not tech oriented to even figure it out and Apple doesn't really highlight this feature. So it can't be a massive downgrade if they didn't know about it to begin with.
‘IF’ they know it exists then. I know it exists and practically every iPhone user I know knows it exists so for them it would be a very missed feature.
 
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