I don't understand how the notch gets proportionately bigger with the screen? The notch size shouldn't change from 5.8" to 6.1" as opposed to the "dummy" shown in the photo.
Looks like 2gb ram iOS devices are soon to be outdated. Better not update iOS on those devices anymore.
It might very well be that Kuo (as Apple's ventricular dummy) is just testing out market reactions on this lineup - and its mere general settlement for innovation coming to a standstill.Are we really to expect Apple to launch its 2018 iPhone, with lower specs than this years 8, but then charge the same price for it? That’s a PR disaster waiting to happen and Apple could certainly do with avoiding anymore negative iPhone press!
This would only work with price drops across the board. The new X and X Plus sliding down into the 8 and 8 Plus price points and this new “budget” phone picking up the price point currently occupied by the 7.
Combine it with the 7 and 6s dissapearing and an updated SE, it would make a pretty decent, tidier line up that still has room to evolve.
Unless Apple is deliberately trying to shrink their iPhone business, then this rumour is likely true.
Wanna make a bet?Lack of 3D Touch? These "analysts" are taking a shot in the dark. There is no way Apple does this.
Umm, do you know what engineering is? It is designing. That's literally what it is. Now, you could have the argument that good engineering doesn't necessitate beautiful aesthetics; but in our opinion (and Apple's, at least in the past) it certainly does.
How does Apple "push" those who use old PCs/Macs too far? Considering those people are still using 10 yo PCs/Macs mean they couldn't care less of having the latest and greatest. Apple sell refurbished Macs, and there are plenty on the second-hand market.I know people who still use 10 year old PCs or Macs. At some point if they push too far people will stop buying. I would be careful if I were them.
Exactly. What I take issue with is that while the iPhone X looks like a great phone it’s filled with compromises. Face ID, the notch, restarting the damn thing. It’s just a phone full of compromises. Touch ID was something that was ZERO compromise and just was layered on top when you inevitably press the home button to wake the phone. Now that all the hype is wearing off loads of reviewers are admitting there are lots of little annoyances with iPhone X. Reminds me of the Apple Watch, three years in NOW more people want it but in the beginning Apple had no idea how to sell it to people or tell us why we needed to lust after it (something Steve Jobs was famous for making us feel). Same goes for iPhone X......why exactly do we need to compromise?
Also the fact that people are perfectly content on this thread and others with the iPhone 8 or even getting one later this year to avoid the iPhone X is very telling. If iPhone X were truly the best, the 8 wouldn’t exist.
The 6.1” LCD (iPhone 9?) wouldn’t have specs lower than the 8. The 8 is 4.7” with a huge bezel, the 6.1” would have small bezels like the X, and FaceID/TrueDepth camera like the X. It would also have an A12 processor vs the A11 of the 8. The only way it’s worse than the 8 is the lack of 3D Touch.Are we really to expect Apple to launch its 2018 iPhone, with lower specs than this years 8, but then charge the same price for it? That’s a PR disaster waiting to happen and Apple could certainly do with avoiding anymore negative iPhone press!
This would only work with price drops across the board. The new X and X Plus sliding down into the 8 and 8 Plus price points and this new “budget” phone picking up the price point currently occupied by the 7.
Combine it with the 7 and 6s dissapearing and an updated SE, it would make a pretty decent, tidier line up that still has room to evolve.
Unless Apple is deliberately trying to shrink their iPhone business, then this rumour is likely true.
It wouldn’t, nor would the bezel around the perimeter get larger as it’s currently shown. It’s just a crappy, lazy render of the 6.5” X Plus; the 5.8” blown up.I don't understand how the notch gets proportionately bigger with the screen? The notch size shouldn't change from 5.8" to 6.1" as opposed to the "dummy" shown in the photo.
These will have little in common with the X. Ive said "technology should be invisible." This may go a step past what his former boss said.
Yes I think the Taptic Engine would go away if 3D Touch goes.Does no 3D Touch mean no Taptic Engine? I definitely prefer vibration from the Taptic Engine than from regular vibration motors.
Looks like 2gb ram iOS devices are soon to be outdated. Better not update iOS on those devices anymore.
Apple isn’t pushing those who still use old PCs and Macs. They’re pushing the costumers that are willing to change their iPhone every 1-2 years but won’t because the price tag of $1000 won’t justify the new features. I bet they can sell that iPhone for 200 dollars less and adjust the price for the rest of the lineup and maybe more people are going to buy them instead of holding on to their current smartphone for another year.How does Apple "push" those who use old PCs/Macs too far? Considering those people are still using 10 yo PCs/Macs mean they couldn't care less of having the latest and greatest. Apple sell refurbished Macs, and there are plenty on the second-hand market.
Who likes these giant phones? I had a 6S Plus and it was too big. The point of bezel-free screens is to make the thing easier to hold, especially with one hand. My iPhone 10 is sometimes too big. If they’d made a bezel-free SE-sized phone with OLED and dual rear cameras, I’d have paid as much for it.
This. The cost of phones and technology has got to the point where for the first time since 2001, I haven't had the desire to upgrade to the next latest and greatest handset. In that time I have had literally hundreds of different phones (I work in the industry), but when there is chat of the "cheapest" new Apple handset coming in at £800, yea that's not happening.The biggest problem Apple, and the rest of the industry, faces is that the smartphone is a mature product.
Incremental improvements are no longer enough for the public at large to drop $1000 every year or two on a new phone that fundamentally performs the same functions as the one they currently use.
A slightly larger screen? A better camera? Slightly better (but still just adequate) battery life? Design decisions like "the notch?" That's strictly fanboi fodder.
Most people are just going to replace their phones when they die, or some other circumstance calls for it. Not because of rote upgrade-itis like the makers would have you subscribe to.
Replacement cycles for smartphones are naturally lengthening as they have for computers, tablets, and every other piece of technology.
The question for Apple is, "what comes after the iPhone?" This cash cow won't live forever. It doesn't seem to have a hardware answer, so it's doubling down on ecosystem lockdown and captive services.
I really wonder how you survived of introduction of tabs in (originally browser) windows, or their physical version on index cards or folder dividers, since the iPhone X notch has pretty much the shape of an (if you want, inverted) tab. Your head must have exploded when you first saw these.I still can't stand that dumb notch! A little bezel of black on the top and bottom would look SO much better. Especially on that larger phone. Man, that's ugly.
This. The cost of phones and technology has got to the point where for the first time since 2001, I haven't had the desire to upgrade to the next latest and greatest handset. In that time I have had literally hundreds of different phones (I work in the industry), but when there is chat of the "cheapest" new Apple handset coming in at £800, yea that's not happening.
The iPhone 4 launched at £499. The iPhone 5 launched at £529. The iPhone 6 was £539. The iPhone 7 was £599. That initial £499 price and all the rest equate to roughly £600 in today's money. The very latest and greatest iPhone at any given time up until the iPhone 8 therefor cost around £600. Now we are at the point where the next gen iPhone X will probably be the latest and greatest, but will no doubt keep with the current pricing of £999. That is far to much of a jump! I understand Apple really wants folk to sign into the yearly upgrade program to have this constant milking of the cash cow, but there is absolutely no way I am supporting that business model. They are the biggest and most successful company in the world, yet the ends to which they will goto to try and squeeze every penny out of the customer is horrible. The 3D Touch component cost is minimal. We sell iPhone 7 LCDs for less that £20, don't tell me that the 3D touch part of this is anywhere north of £5 component cost, yet Apple feel the need to possibly drop that cost AND increase the base pricing?!
Without being all dramatic, if this is the way Apple is moving their business model, I don't want anything to do with it. Angela Ahrendts wants Apple to be exclusive and a luxury brand with the pricing structure and options given etc, yet find me another luxury brand that allows you to take finance out (and letting people get products they otherwise couldn't afford) on their products? There is no exclusivity there, only a cynical ploy to try fleece the customer and making them feel "special".
Who likes these giant phones? I had a 6S Plus and it was too big. The point of bezel-free screens is to make the thing easier to hold, especially with one hand. My iPhone 10 is sometimes too big. If they’d made a bezel-free SE-sized phone with OLED and dual rear cameras, I’d have paid as much for it.
Apple has been expanding the iPhone price envelope over a long time. If we ignore the first year (where the stated price included an unknown carrier subsidy) we get the following picture with five phases:The iPhone 4 launched at £499. The iPhone 5 launched at £529. The iPhone 6 was £539. The iPhone 7 was £599. That initial £499 price and all the rest equate to roughly £600 in today's money. The very latest and greatest iPhone at any given time up until the iPhone 8 therefor cost around £600. Now we are at the point where the next gen iPhone X will probably be the latest and greatest, but will no doubt keep with the current pricing of £999. That is far to much of a jump!