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Kids and Iphones (no offense to the younger folks)
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I am 15 and I'm about to become a Sophomore in high school and yes the does look "cool" it also happens to make you available almost 24/7 and just about every 15 was be social 24/7.
Yes, they are banned. They are to be off and left in the students' lockers. As a teacher, I understand that students don't feel comfortable leaving their phones in their lockers for fear of theft. So if they have it turned off (not just on silent) and in their pocket, I don't care. But if I see it at all, then I take it and turn it. First offense, I return it to a parent. Any other offense and I turn it in to the office. Though I really hate doing that, because the office's stance last year was to throw the phones away. In the garbage. They didn't even bother to recycle them. That just irked me.
What amazes me even more was the amount of incriminating information that students left on their phones in the form of pictures/messages. We had numerous students expelled after having their phones confiscated.
Teacher here. All electronic devices (phones, mp3 players, video games) are banned in my school district. The students can use them before or after school hours, but during school hours they must be off and not displayed. The policy calls for confiscation and there are procedures for releasing them only to a parent. After the first offense there is a fine, and after the 3rd offense they are kept until the end of the school year. All confiscated items are kept in a vault in the main office.
the iPhone with 10,000 texts a month
will let me connect to my friends 24/7
the iphone is mostly a social thing for me...ill always be able to be with my friends even if there across the country on vacation or in the classroom next door
will let me connect to my friends 24/7
the iphone is mostly a social thing for me...ill always be able to be with my friends even if there across the country on vacation or in the classroom next door
I fully agree with these guidelines...I remember when i was in high school there were no warnings. We were told to either leave our phones at home or in our cars (if we were old enough to drive). If anyone was caught with a phone on them (turned off or not), they were confiscated until the end of the year.
I'm fairly confident that this may be considered illegal activities by the school administrators (though I have no official document that states it as such).
I just graduated from high school a few weeks ago. As far as phones were concerned, they were to be confiscated at first sight. When word got out that teachers/administrators were going through texts, pictures, and other media, parents and students alike were outraged. This was an invasion of ones privacy. Students got together, and eventually agreed to spread the word that removing one's battery or SIM card would prevent such searches.
In response to the throwing away of a students cell phone, that's just plain unbelievable. I cannot see how parents would allow such practices. While taking the device away is one thing, the permanent discarding of one's personal belongings should certainly NOT be allowed. Period.
To the OP, if the iPhone somehow loses its appeal because kids are using it, I think you are the one that needs to grow up. Im buying an iPhone because personally need features the iPhone has. Although I could simply a Windows Mobile phone or a blackberry, I choose not to because I do like the aesthetics of the phone. It is a nice clean look. If you honestly are trying to tell us that you arent buying the phone for its beauty, Im going to go ahead and call you out on that 
Although I dont agree with you in that the phone loses its appeal because kids have it, I do feel a sense of anger towards these younger kids who have these expensive phone and honestly have no idea how to use them or treat them improperly!
5-10 years ago, this kind of stuff is unimagineable. When I was teenager, when I first got my phone, it was free, black and white, only had a contact list, calculator, calendar, and a game called Snake.
Although I dont agree with you in that the phone loses its appeal because kids have it, I do feel a sense of anger towards these younger kids who have these expensive phone and honestly have no idea how to use them or treat them improperly!
5-10 years ago, this kind of stuff is unimagineable. When I was teenager, when I first got my phone, it was free, black and white, only had a contact list, calculator, calendar, and a game called Snake.
If you can believe it, I have been employed at Abercrombie for four years. There is almost no other job that could be more flexible and easy for college students. I am extremely knowledgeable when it comes to technology, and am wondering why working there or owning a benz automatically makes someone ignorant?
If it was his lack of information on the iPhone that bothered you, state that. Working somewhere you don't like to shop shouldn't immediately make someone worthy of a negative mention.
in my school district, phones are to be kept in lockers or off, but are acceptable as long as a teacher doesnt see it(this is coming straight from a teachers mouth.). since my friends and i are in honors classes some "nice" teachers let us take our phones out if we are not learning anything. i used to have a Cingular 8125 PDA Phone. one time it rang, and the teacher made me come up in front of the class and hand it to her. i did, and when she saw it, she said"THIS IS YOUR PHONE? OMG! I cant take this! turn it off right now, and keep it in your pocket!" and she gave me the phone. now, my friend, who got the iphone last year when it came out, had the same thing happen to him. the funny thing is though, she was amazed when she saw it, and instead of taking it, she told him, in the middle of class, that her husband had one as well! she told him that if he showed her how to dial, she would not take it. so he showed her how to dial, and he didnt get introuble! LOL .
@ the people who said the phones were kept for the year or thrown away:
cant the parents come and sue? i mean, technically, the students were not breaking any major law, and yet the administrators "stole" the phone.
. @ the people who said the phones were kept for the year or thrown away:
cant the parents come and sue? i mean, technically, the students were not breaking any major law, and yet the administrators "stole" the phone.
not as easily
1) with a touchscreen
2) made by Apple
3) easy to use
4) many features (email, web, phone, SMS, iPod)
5) Small gaming device for waiting/car rides
I don't think he meant it that way.
I worked in the service industry (i.e. restaurant) for a few years through college. ...being one that has worked in it, I'm very quick to say, "Oh, they're just having a bad day."
...but the truth is, in retail (clothing or restaurant) most employees have bad attitudes or lack of further education. ...and don't mind letting people know this. There were several people I worked with that probably wouldn't get much farther in life, sadly enough.
There are of course the exceptions...of which will one day will move onto bigger and better things.
"Don't take everything for face value." Is how I took it. Though, he had a mercedes and an iphone...he thought he was knowledgeable of all things. Obviously, he was not.
I worked in the service industry (i.e. restaurant) for a few years through college. ...being one that has worked in it, I'm very quick to say, "Oh, they're just having a bad day."
...but the truth is, in retail (clothing or restaurant) most employees have bad attitudes or lack of further education. ...and don't mind letting people know this. There were several people I worked with that probably wouldn't get much farther in life, sadly enough.
There are of course the exceptions...of which will one day will move onto bigger and better things.
"Don't take everything for face value." Is how I took it. Though, he had a mercedes and an iphone...he thought he was knowledgeable of all things. Obviously, he was not.
It's not illegal to go through phones where I live. And I actually teach at a private school and all the parents and students agree to the terms put forth in the handbook.
Personally, I don't go through a student's phone unless I have definite reason to believe that a student was cheating. I think a student deserves their privacy. However, if a student takes out a SIM card or battery - well, that changes the game and then I'm taking the card or battery and looking through it to see what they're trying to hide. Unfortunately, every time - rare though it is - that's happened, it's been tied to drug deals and the students have been promptly expelled.
As far as throwing the phones away - I agree. There's no excuse for it. I can see holding onto it until the end of the school year, but not outright discarding them. Which is why I never turned phones in, except as outlined above. But, again, the policy was clearly outlined in the handbook and everyone signed off on it.
I suppose a student/parent could try to sue if a phone or other electronic device were confiscated, but considering the rules & consequences are published in the student handbook, and are also repeated during daily announcments for the first week of each semester, it's not like they'd win the suit. Rules and consequences. I don't know why that's so hard to understand.
Any brat that has mommy or daddy paying for their iPhone and monthly service plan instead of paying for it entirely themselves devalues it for everyone. Get a job you damn kids, and get a haircut!!!
Why don't you worry about yourself? If some parent wants to buy their child an iPhone, that is none of your business.
well, a phone is actually worth alot of money. and the students are technically not the "owners" of the phone, its thier parents' phone.
signing a handbook, in my opinion means nothing. what if you dont sign the handbook, they dont let you go to school? please.
if i knew a teacher would go through my phone, not let me have it, or go through my texts, i would not give the phone, and i have a good reason not to. what would they do? expel me? i could care less if they contacted my parents, its my parents job to punish me, not the school's.
That's right...when that child that had the iphone bought for them gets out in the real world and has to decide between a nice phone or a full tank of gas...(oh wait) mommy gave them her gas card too.
Okay, when that child that had the iphone bought for them gets out on their own and has to make their own mortgage payment...(oh wait) daddy pays that.
okay, so only when that child that had the iphone bought for them has to handle something for themselves, on their own, with no help...will they realize just how nice of their parents it was to provide nice things for them.
There needs to be genuine appreciation before there can be bragging rights.
Okay, when that child that had the iphone bought for them gets out on their own and has to make their own mortgage payment...(oh wait) daddy pays that.
okay, so only when that child that had the iphone bought for them has to handle something for themselves, on their own, with no help...will they realize just how nice of their parents it was to provide nice things for them.
There needs to be genuine appreciation before there can be bragging rights.
The moral issues over throwing a phone away...or even keeping it until the end of the school year...outnumber the benefits of these actions, in my own opinion. Yet, if the students/parents signed some sort of agreement, it seems to be fair play. However, this begs the question: what if a parent doesn't sign the agreement?
As for the searching and general invasion of privacy, I still believe that such policies are outrageous. As cliche as it may sound, I have nothing to hide. Yet, I still have a problem with someone going through my personal information (including contacts, texts, and pictures).
Furthermore, expelling a student based on achieving information from his/her phone should not be allowed. Although this is a much smaller scale, one can draw similarities to court cases in which illegally obtained evidence cannot be used against the defendant. Acting upon suspicion has proven unwise far too many times. I am not insisting that "busting the drug deal" was immoral. Rather, I suggest that the methods by which such information was gained was certainly questionable.
To the OP, if the iPhone somehow loses its appeal because kids are using it, I think you are the one that needs to grow up. Im buying an iPhone because personally need features the iPhone has. Although I could simply a Windows Mobile phone or a blackberry, I choose not to because I do like the aesthetics of the phone. It is a nice clean look. If you honestly are trying to tell us that you arent buying the phone for its beauty, Im going to go ahead and call you out on that
Although I dont agree with you in that the phone loses its appeal because kids have it, I do feel a sense of anger towards these younger kids who have these expensive phone and honestly have no idea how to use them or treat them improperly!
5-10 years ago, this kind of stuff is unimagineable. When I was teenager, when I first got my phone, it was free, black and white, only had a contact list, calculator, calendar, and a game called Snake.
Whats up wako, I assume you were referring to me, correct me if i'm wrong.
The question I posed in this topic was not a reflection of my personal opinion, but rather an observation that I have noticed. Until July 11th, I am an owner of a sidekick 3, and im 21 years old. To me, the phone is very user friendly, and I enjoyed its bar none messaging capabilities. To the older community, what I have has been described as a "kiddie phone". However, I did get the phone because thats what I liked.
The question posed in this topic was made by me from an objective standpoint.
Yeah, Every single child will end up just like this.
I joined this forum after lurking for awhile, just because of this topic. The stupidty and people saying all kids doing something is stupid.
A child's parents CAN buy a child an iPhone. That does not mean the child is irresponsible. So please, shut up just because you are insecure or your parents did not love you.
I understand where you are coming from, but it shouldn't matter why you buy the iPhone. We should just be happy that Apple has made such an appealing, high-functioning phone for people. I'm 17, and obviously I'm not in my career yet, but rather in High School. I'm buying the iPhone for, yes, its appealing attributes, but for its full-featured functionality as well. 13 year olds don't need an iPhone, I agree with that. However, 13 year olds don't need half the things they have now in our generation either.
You know the response I get with my current iPhone was at first "why'd you get that" or "its not really worth it is it", and my response is usually something like "actually its pretty much paid for itself with convenience and the amount of arguments its settled are endless" So no matter what age you are if someone thinks its a "kiddie" phone or you bought it just to look "cool" be sure you know EVERYTHING about it so you can reply "Just look at what it can do that yours can't" (its also all about knowing the competitors capabilities also)
If you would actually read my post and fully understand it, then you would realize that I am saying not all kids will turn out this way.
I fully support being spoiled, as such, I was. I feel that it is perfectly fine to be spoiled...just not to act so.
What I am saying is that...it is the spoiled little brats that don't appreciate a d*mn thing they are given, and feel that because they are given everything (and have those nice things) they are privileged to whatever they feel like, whenever they feel like it. When in actuality are the whole while making themselves look more immature and uneducated. I never once said anyone was irresponsible...infact, people can have things handed to them all day and still be very responsible. It's the true understanding of the act of being 'given' something by someone who loves you that much.
Pay it forward...don't be a d*ck.