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Considering all the subtleties, not the least of which is that I refuse to associate with either major US political party, I still think USA is #1 and China needs to be sanctioned.
Do you think countries should sanction the USA for starting the Afgan war and causing hundreds of thousands to die for nothing?

We dealt with Islamic extremists with wars. China is dealing with it with "re-education camps".
 
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Do you think countries should sanction the USA for starting the Afgan war and causing hundreds of thousands to die for nothing?
Which countries? Other ones in NATO were there too. Fighting the Taliban was a good cause supported by Afghans too, even though it was a losing one, and there shouldn't be a penalty simply for losing a war.

Afghans were kinda screwed either way, though; that ship sailed when the USSR took control decades prior. IMO we should've left it alone, and probably most Americans agree.

We dealt with Islamic extremists with wars. China is dealing with it with "re-education camps".
These are different causes altogether. China is looking out for internal stability. Though if anything, abusing an innocent sub-population is how you incite terrorism. Even if they forced their way with 99% of them, it doesn't take very many people to <insert violent thing I can't say>.
 
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Of course the authoritarian way is often cheaper. No regard for fairness, just minimizing risk. Ethnostate gets rid of race wars too. But no diversity, and you have to hope you don't end up on the wrong side of the law one day.
It’s gonna be hard to help them if they are 3 feet under the ground… Where is the fairness in that?

About diversity, the Asians will be quick to remind you about the Chinese and Japanese Exclusion Acts, the Chinese Head Tax, not allowing the Chinese to marry White women, not allowing the Chinese men to bring Chinese women in so they don’t breed, not allowing the Chinaman to testify in court, not allowing the Chinese to vote, the popular derogatory portray of the Asian men in Hollywood, and the hyper-sexualization of the Asian women in America. They’ve been on the wrong side or the ”right” side of the diversity and freedom all along.

There are many White students, teachers, freelancers, and corporate employees in Asia, effectively none of them complained about discrimination, bigotry, or mistreatment on the land of homogeneity.
 
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You want to know what will lead to the overthrow of the Communist Party in China? Things like this. CCP wants its cake and to eat it to. China currently has this Captialist Communism which are at odds with each other. Locking up Billionaires for disagreeing with the CCP, preventing children from playing video games, and limiting people from having children are things that will continue to pile up until the people of China are fed up. You are either going to have a civil war or some kind of revolution...where the system collapses like with the USSR.

Xi Jinping has one of the highest approval rates of any leader in history according to a Harvard study.

Most people in China don't care about BS gaming laws because they're smart enough to realize 1) gaming IS an addictive waste of time that can destroy young children's minds and 2) everyone's wealth and general access is increasing significantly every few years so there's very few reasons to dislike or get 'fed up' of the government for creating another law that actually serves their best interests.

Locking up billionaires isn't something that most Chinese people think is a bad thing, they celebrate the fact that even billionaires in their country are not exempt from the rules, something the US completely lacks. I've never heard of US bankers getting death sentences or life long prison sentences for corruption. If the CCP really do represent the people, unlike how the US government represents the billionaire class, then billionaires disagreeing with the party is in essence a disagreement with the people themselves.
 
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Which countries? Other ones in NATO were there too. Fighting the Taliban was a good cause, even if it wasn't worth the money, and there shouldn't be a penalty simply for losing a war.

Afghans were kinda screwed either way, though; that ship sailed when the USSR took control decades prior.
How to deal with Islamic extremists (USA version): Let's go into countries, bomb the living **** out of them, and they will love us after and won't want to do terrorist things to us anymore in the future.

How to deal with Islamic extremists (China version): Take all their internal Islamic population that is prone to being extreme, put them in camps, and re-educate them.

Let me just say it out loud. Most western countries want to do what China does but they don't have the balls to actually do it. Instead, western countries beat around the bush by saying things like Islam being a "peaceful religion" publicly and trying to play the politically correct game.
 
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How to deal with Islamic extremists (USA version): Let's go into countries, bomb the living **** out of them, and they will love us after and won't want to do terrorist things to us anymore in the future.

How to deal with Islamic extremists (China version): Take all their internal Islamic population that is prone to being extreme, put them in camps, and re-educate them.

Let me just say it out loud. Most western countries want to do what China does but they don't have the balls to actually do it. Instead, western countries beat around the push with Islam being a "peaceful religion" and trying to play the politically correct game.
Well your US description is oversimplified and inaccurate. If you want it to be oversimplified and accurate, it'd be, the US wanted to ensure an unfriendly regime doesn't control X country, so they bombed their fighters. Though if you ask me, it's not really about terrorism or even oil, it's about Israel's various interests.

IDK why you're even comparing this to what China does. They want an ethnostate, which Islam conflicts with, and they want communism, which any populous religion will conflict with. The US offers freedom of religion in general, and there's no official stance on Islam in particular being a "peaceful religion" other than what Dems say.

You're also ignoring any Chinese influence in foreign nations. They don't have troops in central Asia or Mid East, but their funding and weapons are all over the place there.
 
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This is the government taking over good parenting. While I agreed with the premise kids should not play hours on hours of video-games, in the end such action is totalitarian and infringement of individual freedom. The same apply to vaccine mandates but that's a discussion for another day.
 
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You want to know what will lead to the overthrow of the Communist Party in China? Things like this. CCP wants its cake and to eat it to. China currently has this Captialist Communism which are at odds with each other. Locking up Billionaires for disagreeing with the CCP, preventing children from playing video games, and limiting people from having children are things that will continue to pile up until the people of China are fed up. You are either going to have a civil war or some kind of revolution...where the system collapses like with the USSR.
The only thing that will piss off the Chinese people, especially women, about limiting fertility is when China takes in refugees, which China is doing on a very moderate level, mostly from Africa, and by given them a world-class education in top universities in China. That pisses a lot of people off because those people are absolute garbage students, acting like you would expect a ghetto street gang kid with a fat scholarship would. Harassing Chinese girls, etc. The Chinese public doesn’t like the fact about how Black Guangdong is, which is the “Cantonese“ part of China.

The women would be like I didn’t abort my daughter so that you can bring in refugees! I think every Western women would be outraged too, in this case.
 
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Apparently Chinese love authoritarianism. They can feel the love from Xi Jinping.
This is exactly what an ignorant American would say.

I've met a lot of people from China while I was living and working in Hong Kong. They disagree/agree with government policies just like anyone in the west. And yes, they all think there are many aspects of the government that is incompetent just like everyone does here.

Let's top pretending like Americans know it all and that everything we say isn't biased.
 
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How to deal with Islamic extremists (USA version): Let's go into countries, bomb the living **** out of them, and they will love us after and won't want to do terrorist things to us anymore in the future.

How to deal with Islamic extremists (China version): Take all their internal Islamic population that is prone to being extreme, put them in camps, and re-educate them.

Let me just say it out loud. Most western countries want to do what China does but they don't have the balls to actually do it. Instead, western countries beat around the bush by saying things like Islam being a "peaceful religion" publicly and trying to play the politically correct game.

Western countries don't have a domestic "muslim problem" like you think they do, nor does China. The issue of Islamic extremism in the West is so miniature it's practically not even worth talking about, they only talk about it because it's a nice distraction from the West's biggest problem: unbridled exploitation of the people by capitalist vampires. So long as Jim from Yorkshire thinks Ahmed from Bangladesh is the real problem he won't focus on how the NHS is being sold off to American private companies for example. The whole thing is a xenophobic farce.

Meanwhile China don't care about Muslims as long as they integrate with the grand vision to accelerate China into the no. 1 superpower. China have more Muslims than all of Europe and almost all of them remain completely unbothered by the CCP because they practice their religion in peace without resisting the country's plan. As far as I know the CCP don't care about subcultures and religions as long as they don't resist the government's will. Although China promotes atheism they don't discriminate against religious people as far as I'm aware.
 
This is exactly what an ignorant American would say.

I've met a lot of people from China while I was living and working in Hong Kong. They disagree/agree with government policies just like anyone in the west. And yes, they all think there are many aspects of the government that is incompetent just like everyone does here.

Let's top pretending like Americans know it all and that everything we say isn't biased.

I am Canadian.
 
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Western countries don't have a domestic "muslim problem" like you think they do, nor does China. The issue of Islamic extremism in the West is so miniature it's practically not even worth talking about, they only talk about it because it's a nice distraction from the West's biggest problem: unbridled exploitation of the people by capitalist vampires. So long as Jim from Yorkshire thinks Ahmed from Bangladesh is the real problem he won't focus on how the NHS is being sold off to American private companies for example. The whole thing is a xenophobic farce.

Meanwhile China don't care about Muslims as long as they integrate with the grand vision to accelerate China into the no. 1 superpower. China have more Muslims than all of Europe and almost all of them remain completely unbothered by the CCP because they practice their religion in peace without resisting the country's plan. As far as I know the CCP don't care about subcultures and religions as long as they don't resist the government's will. Although China promotes atheism they don't discriminate against religious people as far as I'm aware.
First highlighted part: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-27502652

Second highlighted part: Yes, China has goals of being the #1 superpower. USA has goals of maintaining #1.
 
What does China have to do with socialism? Cause they are a fake communist country with less labor laws than the US.
I say this all the time. Republicans should love China more.

  • High property rights (stop paying rent? get thrown out onto the streets the next day)
  • Strong police support
  • Low crime rate
  • Market economy
  • Low business regulation
  • Low handouts
  • Anti-islamic extremists
 
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The State regulating what your kids can and cant do in their free time. Great! This is insane…
 
I say this all the time. Republicans should love China more.

  • High property rights (stop paying rent? get thrown out onto the streets the next day)
  • Strong police support
  • Low crime rate
  • Market economy
  • Low business regulation
  • Low handouts
  • Anti-islamic extremists

Which do you prefer? Anti-Islamic extremists, or Islamic Extremists?
 
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