Kids and Teens in China Banned From Playing Online Video Games for More Than 3 Hours Per Week

[JMacHack]

The kids get out of school at 3:00 pm and the parents get home at 5:00 pm.

I see you’re not acquainted with many blue collar folk. In many cases shifts can last 10 hours or more, and in the medical professions (a very common job in rural areas) mandatory overtime and being on-call is extremely common among staff. Not to mention graveyard shifts and swing shifts.

Unfortunately, reality isn’t black and white and not everyone gets the luxury of punching in at 9:00 and out at 5:00.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Come on. The U.S. will accept more Third World immigrants this year than probably every other First World country added together, and no other country on the planet tolerates illegal immigration like the U.S. does.

Not disagreeing with you there but the number of immigrants doesn’t necessarily translate automatically to a relaxed immigration barrier given the U.S.’s comparatively larger population.

 

[0924487]

What’s the root belief in freedom?

It’s the belief that given agency over their own lives the majority of people will make good (or good enough) decisions. If you believe in freedom and personal agency you must necessarily accept that the majority of people have good intentions at least.

If you do not believe this, there is no point in letting people have agency over themselves. In which case you must advocate for a nanny state to regulate behavior of people.

Tyranny of the majority?

Electoral Demarcracy doesn’t protect the interests of the voting minorities. Why Guam is still not a state after like 100 years? Why people of Guam still cannot vote because the Supreme Court still upholds a temporary verdict that says basically they are primitive subhumans incapable of political thinking? This is basically so that they don’t dilute the voting power of the White states. More than 56% of Guam people are enlisted as US soldires, but oh you are free to die for your country*, but you are not civilized enough to vote or be regarded as citizens, only nationals.

*technically, it’s not yours, but its where you belong.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Only because they bought into a dumb system. All mothers flooding into the workplace did was lower the value of labor for both men and women.

As recently as the 1980s, high school dropouts could support a family of four or five with a factory job. Now, two “professionals” struggle to support their 1.3 kids. That’s not progress.

The one wage earner family ended a long time ago. I remember when my mom went to work. It was hard on all of us, but harder on my sisters because mom was 'old school', and didn't expect the 'men' to do any housework. I had to learn to wash my own clothes when I moved out, and also how to clean and cook. I handle it all pretty well, but don't like to do it with the gusto it requires having dogs and a once busy life.

But beside the point, It was also a different time. I was a 'free range kid', and I can't imagine how kids today can survive, mentally, without getting outside. *sigh* (Yeah, I was still a kid when the needles in Halloween candy crap started, and the fear and lockdown of kids was creeping into the distance) I really feel sorry for today's kids. We have so messed up everything. Sorry...

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Interesting for Tencent voluntarily mandating this new rule, though not surprising. But they could go one step further and constantly perform facial recognition and disconnect the game as soon as the time limit hits. Idk how they’d implement it, just thinking of worse case scenario.

Oh I think that‘s more or less the effect. According to most reports I’ve seen after a certain number of hours they will ask for facial authentication. If the user refuses to give permission to authenticate or if the face matches a minor the game disconnects.

 

[jk73]

What’s the root belief in freedom?

It’s the belief that given agency over their own lives the majority of people will make good (or good enough) decisions. If you believe in freedom and personal agency you must necessarily accept that the majority of people have good intentions at least.

If you do not believe this, there is no point in letting people have agency over themselves. In which case you must advocate for a nanny state to regulate behavior of people.

There’s a middle ground that you seem to be missing. People who have demonstrated no ability to manage their own lives shouldn’t get to vote on how everyone else lives theirs.

 

[siddavis]

I don’t know if you are kidding but even a cursory knowledge of US history would tell you that‘s not true. Jim Crow? Johnson-Reed Act? Japanese internment camps? Chinese exclusion act? Even modern day US has some of the strictest immigration policies among developed nations.

I didn't say without sins or flaws. Also, the history of the US makes my statement not true? Name the other country that has a population mix akin to the US where so much of this diversity is celebrated and has people begging to get in legally and illegally by the hundreds of thousands every year. The foundation of this nation places the individual, no matter what race, gender, creed, whatever, as protected with rights granted by nature and nature's god (NOT by government), with liberty in the truest sense in the history of humankind. No other state before or since has done this. Period. The sins of the imperfect humans that make up the governing structure in the US do not erase the progression toward the realization of that foundation as it was intended. In fact, recognizing (by pointing to atrocities) that humans by nature are flawed reinforces the idea that we cannot and should not expect to seek out and vote in perfect humans to rule over us - it's just illogical.

 

[0924487]

I understand the premise of this, but this is antipodal to the idea of humanity. This wasn’t the way to go at the issue.

I do wonder what would happen if the world imposes similar restrictions on China as China does on humans. Let’s allow flights only for as many hours as this. Let’s allow trade for only as many hours as this. Etc.

I know I’m sounding absurd, but that’s because this is absurd. I’m waiting for reactions to this from the world and UN.

China is a sovereign nation, but citizens are not sovereign, unless you are “sovereign citizen”.

Lol, look this up is you don‘t get the reference.

 

[asiga]

Totalitarian is when I have to surrender my laptop, my passwords and my phone to US border agents for tapping.

Totalitarian is when I have to take off my shoes and be X-rayed to get on a plane.

Totalitarian is when I have to tell your government what party I support or have supported.

Totalitarian is to have my phone calls, chats and other electronic data surveilled in its entirety by a foreign service like yours.

Limiting gaming, though, is as totalitarian as limiting booze, drugs, betting, casinos, guns or any other social mechanism that can be harmful to individuals and society.

No, police checking you has nothing to do with totalitarism, provided that Law is legit and just (in some countries it isn't, because in some countries -most of them under a communist dictatorship, BTW-, Law dictates what you can believe and what you can't, how many children you can have, and a long etcetera). Totalitarism is precisely that (i.e. when Law goes against legit freedom).

BTW, surprising that you say "a foreign service like yours". What do you mean by "yours". Do you think I'm a US citizen? No, I'm not. I'm against all communist regimes, BTW.

 

[jk73]

Not disagreeing with you there but the number of immigrants doesn’t necessarily translate automatically to a relaxed immigration barrier given the U.S.’s comparatively larger population.

Yes, it does. Where is it written that big countries are obligated to accept any immigrants?

 

[jk73]

I see you’re not acquainted with many blue collar folk. In many cases shifts can last 10 hours or more, and in the medical professions (a very common job in rural areas) mandatory overtime and being on-call is extremely common among staff. Not to mention graveyard shifts and swing shifts.

Unfortunately, reality isn’t black and white and not everyone gets the luxury of punching in at 9:00 and out at 5:00.

Life is full of choices and trade-offs.

 

[topdrawer]

That's really bad and stupid. Games are not only entertainment. There are educational games too. Simplistic view from a totalitarian government.

educational games don't tend to be "online gaming"

 

[JMacHack]

Tyranny of the majority?

Electoral Demarcracy doesn’t protect the interests of the voting minorities. Why Guam is still not a state after like 100 years? Why people of Guam still cannot vote because the Supreme Court still upholds a temporary verdict that says basically they are primitive subhumans incapable of political thinking? This is basically so that they don’t dilute the voting power of the White states. More than 56% of Guam people are enlisted as US soldires, but oh you are free to die for your country*, but you are not civilized enough to vote or be regarded as citizens, only nationals.

*technically, it’s not yours, but its where you belong.

I don’t understand your posts, on some you seem to advocate for totalitarian states and in others you condemn tyranny of the majority.

In this case I do believe US territories will eventually gain statehood. Ideals aren’t necessarily always lived up to unfortunately and the United States is no exception.

 

[jk73]

I don’t understand your posts, on some you seem to advocate for totalitarian states and in others you condemn tyranny of the majority.

In this case I do believe US territories will eventually gain statehood. Ideals aren’t necessarily always lived up to unfortunately and the United States is no exception.

Guam isn’t going to be a U.S. state, nor should it be.

 

[0924487]

Only because they bought into a dumb system. All mothers flooding into the workplace did was lower the value of labor for both men and women.

As recently as the 1980s, high school dropouts could support a family of four or five with a factory job. Now, two “professionals” struggle to support their 1.3 kids. That’s not progress.

It’s the successive and progressive great funneling of wealth to the top and top.

 

[topdrawer]

There are no groups in China.

You can join the party or the CPPCC standing committee if you are good, plain and simple.

There is no inherent barrier to prevent you from voting. There are no Castes, or aristocrats, or royals, or ethnic groups, or sexes being factors in this meritocratic process. Also, party member’s kids don’t automatically become party members. There is no automatic legacy inheritance.

Just like inmates can’t vote.

People who score the bottom of the class in universities can’t become party members and consequently can’t vote.

Children who fight with each other, possible gang members, and ones who fail out of school cannot join the party.

Children of criminals can’t join the party.

Children of discredited, subversive, radical, or terrorist parents and non-Chinese citizens cannot join the party.

Employees with mediocre performance, standing and character cannot join the party.

People who cannot formulate coherent thoughts cannot join the party.

People of bad character cannot join the party.

People not suitable for office cannot join the party.

People too close to corporate and foreign interests cannot join the party.

People who are overly religious that may cloud judgement cannot join the party.

etc.

Everyone with some intellectual aptitude can meet those criteria if they put in the work to build themselves into someone worthy, and someone who is suitable for representing other people in the their elected vertical. If they can’t themselves, they can try hard to make sure that their kids can.

so if my parent were criminals it's my fault and i can't vote?

 

[JMacHack]

Life is full of choices and trade-offs.

Cop out answer. We face problems with parenting because of economic forces beyond our control. That doesn’t make the people entitled or lazy anymore than people being born into wealth makes them hardworking or intelligent.

There’s a middle ground that you seem to be missing. People who have demonstrated no ability to manage their own lives shouldn’t get to vote on how everyone else lives theirs.

Shouldn’t morally, but I for one do not trust any government to only strip “deserving” people of their rights. Neither should you. Governments are supposed to be limited in power for that reason.

Guam isn’t going to be a U.S. state, nor should it be.

Why?

 

[jk73]

Cop out answer. We face problems with parenting because of economic forces beyond our control. That doesn’t make the people entitled or lazy anymore than people being born into wealth makes them hardworking or intelligent.

It’s not a cop-out. Don’t like working long hours to make ends meet? Move somewhere cheaper. Learn a new skill.

Shouldn’t morally, but I for one do not trust any government to only strip “deserving” people of their rights. Neither should you. Governments are supposed to be limited in power for that reason.

LOL. By this logic, we should empty the prisons.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

I didn't say without sins or flaws. Also, the history of the US makes my statement not true? Name the other country that has a population mix akin to the US where so much of this diversity is celebrated and has people begging to get in legally and illegally by the hundreds of thousands every year.

There are a number of countries with similarly racially diverse populations, with Canada and Australia being the more well known examples. The number of people “begging to get in” isn’t necessarily a sign of welcoming and tolerance but rather economic opportunity. The number that is let in shows how permissive a government is. Canada for example would be considered much more welcoming and tolerant given that they accept around a third of the the immigrants the U.S. accepts despite having only about a tenth of the population.

 

[jk73]

There are a number of countries with similarly racially diverse populations, with Canada and Australia being the more well known examples. The number of people “begging to get in” isn’t necessarily a sign of welcoming and tolerance but rather economic opportunity. The number that is let in shows how permissive a government is. Canada for example would be considered much more welcoming and tolerant given that they accept around a third of the the immigrants the U.S. accepts despite having only about a tenth of the population.

Pure nonsense. Canada accepts almost no Third World immigrants thanks to its points-based immigration system.

 

[siddavis]

There’s a middle ground that you seem to be missing. People who have demonstrated no ability to manage their own lives shouldn’t get to vote on how everyone else lives theirs.

Which is precisely why we (the US) don't live in a straight democracy. It is a representative republic.

 

[jk73]

Which is precisely why we (the US) don't live in a straight democracy. It is a representative republic.

Non sequitur. A republic full of dumb voters isn’t any better than a democracy full of dumb voters.

 

[JMacHack]

It’s not a cop-out. Don’t like working long hours to make ends meet? Move somewhere cheaper. Learn a new skill.

Rural areas are the absolute cheapest. It’s still difficult to make ends meet for us.

LOL. By this logic, we should empty the prisons.

By yours we should imprison everyone.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Yes, it does. Where is it written that big countries are obligated to accept any immigrants?

I’m not saying there is any obligation at all, but the ratio of immigration to population shows how much a society is willing or able to absorb from other cultures and can be an indicator of how tolerant/welcoming it is (or at least, how welcoming its government is), which was the point of the comment it was replying to. It‘s much easier to assimilate the same number of immigrants when your population is larger.

 

[jk73]

I’m not saying there is any obligation at all, but the ratio of immigration to population shows how much a society is willing or able to absorb from other cultures and can be an indicator of how tolerant/welcoming it is (or at least, how welcoming its government is), which was the point of the comment it was replying to. It‘s much easier to assimilate the same number of immigrants when your population is larger.

Again, no country on the planet has accepted more immigrants, or more poor immigrants, than the U.S.