For starters, roughly 40% of current Covid cases are in the vaccinated, so your comment that Covid would disappear if only everyone got the jab was pure nonsense.
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For starters, roughly 40% of current Covid cases are in the vaccinated, so your comment that Covid would disappear if only everyone got the jab was pure nonsense.
Breakthrough “cases” vs unvaxxed “cases” is tough to measure since there are so many asymptomatic (on both sides). Let’s look at data we can measure: hospitalizations and deaths
Out of 171M people who have been vaccinated - only 11,000 have been to the hospital or died (combined): https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
In about the same timeframe (since last January) there have been 246,000 Covid deaths: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
That makes breakthrough deaths since the beginning of the year less than 5% of the total Covid deaths.
The current 7 day average for hospitalizations _per day_ is currently 12,000. That means that more people are being committed to the hospital _every day_ than have _ever_ been committed to the hospital or died after getting vaccinated: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
Why? What did the do? Honest question.
Why left has anything to do with them? It’s the postmodernists and neoliberalists.
Good Lord.
70% of recent Covid deaths in England were fully vaccinated.
They vote.
I was actually talking about Canada. The US has ten times the population but only three times the immigration numbers. Just simplified the numbers to illustrate my point about the ratio being a better indicator.
I see. That's very interesting, and the left goes the extra mile to cater to them.
Florida though, Latinos voted republican. How do you explain that?
Firstly, were we talking about England? Is that where you live? Secondly, post your source. Thirdly, does that mean that you agree that you were wrong about the effectiveness of the vaccine in the US?
The chart you posted showed 3,400 Mexicans and no Central Americans in Canada while the U.S. has tens of millions, but you’re still claiming Canada has a better ratio when it comes to admitting poor immigrants? Which version of math are you using?
Yeah, the virus and human biology are much different in England. I’m sure Covid will disappear everywhere else.
LOL.
Only Cubans, and a majority of post-1990 Cuban arrivals vote for leftists.
POST YOUR SOURCE. You have yet to provide a single source for a single thing you have said. What is the point of having an argument if you’re just going to make up BS?
I’ve posted multiple sources backing up every single one of my claims.
Post a source.
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Dude, the entire point of our conversation was that you said that this thing China doing was great because it would help childhood obesity. To which I countered with it wouldn’t do anything because diet is the key to preventing it, not taking something like gaming away.
So please stop trying to go back and pretend that you said anything about a diet. You said that kids going outside and playing would solve obesity. It won’t, you were wrong, the end.
Stop shouting. If you’re such an authority, you should have read the Public Health England report already, since it’s been all over the news.
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Since you won’t post a source about England… here’s one for you: https://assets.publishing.service.g...t_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf
It shows that:
“Out of 229,218 COVID infections in the United Kingdom between February and July 19, 28,773 — or about 12.5% — were in fully vaccinated people. Of those breakthrough infections, 1,101, or 3.8%, required a visit to an emergency room. Just 474, or 2.9%, of fully vaccinated people required hospital admission, and 229, or less than 1%, died.” According to https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210726/breakthrough-cases-rising-with-delta-heres-what-that-means
Once again showing just how effective the vaccine is.
No, no, no. You claimed physical activity wasn’t even near the top of the list when it came to obesity, but I’m still waiting for the rest of your list.
Why are you talking about February, when people were freshly vaccinated? Let’s talk about what’s happening right now.
Why can’t I shout? You’re here making wild conjectures that aren’t backed up by any data sources. Why can’t I get angry?
As for your source: read my reply above where I already used that source because it shows how _effective_ vaccines are.
What specific numbers are you seeing in that report that you believe back up your assertion that vaccines don’t work?
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It appears you might be too hysterical to have a discussion here.
As mentioned already, and as widely reported in U.K. media outlets, 70% of recent Covid deaths there are among the fully vaccinated. The vaccines aren’t making Covid go away, as you claimed they would earlier.
The chart is the number of new permanent residents. Canada admits around 300k total each year and the US just over 1 million total. I don’t know why you would consider only Central American immigrants to be a relevant metric. There are plenty of under-developed nations around the world.
Still no source - just an attack on me.
If it’s so widely reported why can’t you post a link?
Also: England is very different from the US when it comes to vaccination. They’ve nearly all had it (88% of people over 18): https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833
Therefore the “percentage of people getting Covid that have been vaccinated” will be high. Think about it for a moment - if 100% of people in England were vaccinated then 100% of the new cases would be breakthrough cases.
With their vaccination rate they are currently at 800 hospitalizations per day: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/uk-daily-covid-admissions
That is 1 in 100,000 people.
The US, with its 12,000 hospitalizations per day (source in previous post) has 3.7 in 100,000 people being hospitalized per day.
So: the UK’s high vaccination rate means that they have a quarter of the new cases rate that the US has.
That’s hilarious. How are poor immigrants from outside the Americas supposed to get to Canada?
There was no “attack” on you, and I did post a source.
As I said, it appears you might be too emotional to have this discussion right now.
You can’t claim that vaccines will make Covid go away but then hand-wave the breakthrough cases.
It’s not unvaccinated 20-year-olds who are dying. It’s old and sick people, like always with Covid.
You called me “hysterical”… I’m not hysterical - but I am mad that idiots like you are keeping this pandemic going.
You posted a link to a report - you didn’t try to say what in that report supports your claim.
At any rate - I just showed you how the UK, with its much better vaccination rate is way better off than the US: the US has nearly 4x the number of hospitalizations per-capita.
I have absolutely proven that less than 5% of the Covid deaths in the US since January have been vaxxed people. Only 11,000 people that have been vaxxed have ever been hospitalized or died in the US. There are 12,000 people per day being admitted to the hospital…
You are definitely wrong about how effective the vaccines are.
None of the above matters at all. Why do you keep talking about January and February, when people were newly vaccinated? Talk about what’s happening today, in Israel or the U.K. or New York.
Vaccine efficacy is plummeting. Why do you think the “experts” are recommending a third jab after only 5 months?
That’s manufactured lies by the CIA. If, to this day, you still can’t see it through, you have a bigger problem to worry about.
I have posted enough sources (mostly direct CDC data).
My claim: 11,000 people who were vaxxed have ever been admitted to a hospital or died (source in previous post)…. And 12,000 people per day are getting admitted to the hospital… therefore the VAST majority of people being admitted to the hospital in the US are unvaccinated.
Please post an authoritative source that shows otherwise in the US.
Do you believe the trends in Israel and the U.K. are unique? Why wouldn’t the same trend occur here?
You talk like the hospitals are full of unvaccinated 20-year-olds, while vaccinated 85-year-olds are in the clear.
Silly nonsense.
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