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Kodak Files Patent Infringement Suits Against Apple, Research in Motion
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So its OK for Apple to make money off of other peoples IP but when Pystar did it to Apple it wasn't?
Of course not. But in Psystar's case we knew what Psystar did, and we new Apple's copyright was "valid."
In this case we don't even know what patents are allegedly infringed. We likewise don't know if the patents are valid or not. We also don't know if the patents are legally enforceable. And assuming they are valid and legally enforceable, we don't know if Apple actually infringes them.
If they are valid, enforceable, and infringed, Apple should (and will have to) pay up.
I'm not understanding you - are you suggesting that Apple should go to court every time the question of royalty fees arises? ( Instead of Apple just paying royalty fees without fuss? )
Lawyers will be very happy.
Apple should certainly go to court if it thinks it isn't infringing the patent, or if it thinks the patent is not valid. Companies get approached all the time from people demanding payment of royalties for not-infringed and invalid patents. It costs nothing to make such a demand, and sometimes people pay just to make you go away.
How many times is this question going to be parroted in here?
*facepalm*
Excuse me, what what is so difficult about answering a question for more understanding about what you mean?
Is that a joke???? They don't even compete with Apple, you ignorant fools. Fact: 30 other companies paid to license this technology, because Kodak patented it! Apple goes ahead and uses this technology without royalties, and you think Kodak "is just jealous" so they sue? You, sir have it all wrong. And we all know if some other company violated Apple's patents and Apple sued, you would be defending Apple.
I agree with this post 100%
*LTD*, don't give us this BS. We all know that if Apple were suing Kodak for a patent they made, you would be supporting Apple all the way, and say that it's justified (as it should be). But when another company wants to exercise their patent rights, it's because they're jealous, and need more money right?? Female dog, please. Fact: 30 other companies licensed this tech from Kodak, and Apple didn't. What makes Apple special and above the law? What's the point of having patents if you don't enforce them? Why should Kodak allow people to use their ideas without the proper loyalty that those 30 other companies paid?
Honestly, you all disgust me.
It's one theory among several. Only Kodak knows Kodak's true motivations. And only a court can decide whether Kodak's claims are justified.
This, and the Nokia case is making me wonder about the reason for the "Boy have we patented it" comment from Mr J.
Were they consciously aware that they were voilating patents - people, especially people in such a position, don't just make comments for no reason.
Were they consciously aware that they were voilating patents - people, especially people in such a position, don't just make comments for no reason.
And your point is?
How many companies lost money last year?
A ton. It's called a global recession.
And 1 fiscal quarter, hell 1 fiscal year does not a trend make.
Every company goes through ups and downs.
Just because they are having a slow quarter or year doesn't mean they aren't entitled to sue to protect their IP.
Yes, I know Apple made bank last year... they make products that people will buy even in a recession.
Indeed, just GSM licenses alone run over 7% of the retail price of a phone, from what I've read. So about $45 for a $600 phone.
Probably have to add at least another 3% for other licenses, which would be a total of 10% of the price. Maybe much more.
The problem is, smartphones have features from so many types of devices.
another company to avoid ...
Regardless of the legitimacy of this claim clearly Kodak is another company like Nokia that is no longer prepared to produce innovative technology instead choosing to pay lawyers rather than engineers.
In the last six months to a year has either Kodak or Nokia produced a product worth buying? I don't think so ... let your $$ do your talking and don't buy products from these companies. ever.
@Maserati7200, how long have you worked for Kodak?
Regardless of the legitimacy of this claim clearly Kodak is another company like Nokia that is no longer prepared to produce innovative technology instead choosing to pay lawyers rather than engineers.
In the last six months to a year has either Kodak or Nokia produced a product worth buying? I don't think so ... let your $$ do your talking and don't buy products from these companies. ever.
@Maserati7200, how long have you worked for Kodak?
Regardless of the legitimacy of this claim clearly Kodak is another company like Nokia that is no longer prepared to produce innovative technology instead choosing to pay lawyers rather than engineers.
In the last six months to a year has either Kodak or Nokia produced a product worth buying? I don't think so ... let your $$ do your talking and don't buy products from these companies. ever.
@Maserati7200, how long have you worked for Kodak?
Kodak's little video recorder flip-imitators are pretty nice. And their printers are....cost effective.
Regardless of the legitimacy of this claim clearly Kodak is another company like Nokia that is no longer prepared to produce innovative technology instead choosing to pay lawyers rather than engineers.
In the last six months to a year has either Kodak or Nokia produced a product worth buying? I don't think so ... let your $$ do your talking and don't buy products from these companies. ever.
@Maserati7200, how long have you worked for Kodak?
So if I have this straight because they are sueing apple in which they have been talking with for a while (which means apple believes there is legitimate facts to the claim) you will not buy from them.
Proof of a fanboy if I ever say one.
At least you are only a fanboy and not a Apple Troll like some other people on these boards.
Kodak has put out some nice products just none of them I really use. Kodak got its ass kick by the it biggest money maker (film and developing Film) by the digital age. No matter what they did they were going to eat that sting and going to loss a lot of money over time.
The fact that kodak is still doing relatively ok and is doing things to adjust to the market speaks volumes of good things and they are trying.
Kodak never was known for great camera and lens so they could not adjust the cameras. Kodak did do a lot of things to try to adjust to the loss of selling film developing film. They started selling high quality paper for printing pictures. Use there knowleged and skill in printing pictures and put it into picture printers and ink for consumer. I believe they even sell disposable digital cameras or at least tried to.
Still the death of Kodak biggest money maker over the years is something that is going to hurt and is impossible for any company to replace over night or even over years.
There is very little difference between a Troll and Fan boy!
What is your point?
Kodak stock price is on a downwards trend - so that gives a reason for Apple to take Kodak's IP without compensation?
You are assuming that Kodak has been talking to Apple? Pretty big assumption!
Oh your wrong BTW, I'm simply against any company that no longer innovates in favour of "Bringing in the lawyers".
How does that mean that? All it means is Apple saying "uh huh. We'll get back to you on that."
If Kodak had made it clear that there was an actual infringement issue, Apple would have been in court seeking declaratory judgment long ago (giving it the advantage of choosing the venue).
@STELLA -> There is very little difference between a Troll and Fan boy!
The pot calling the kettle black me thinks
The pot calling the kettle black me thinks
Agreed. It's become comedic. The more rational posters don't participate as they used to before.
It is amazing how the zealots immediately discount any negative or "Apple is the best!" news as jealousy. It's a testament to efficacy of Apple marketing. Only cultists or fools respond consistently in this fashion. I do find it highly entertaining.
His intent is to cast a cloud of doubt about Kodak's motivation. It's his usual approach. If anyone sues or if survey results are released that could be perceived as damaging to his quixotic view of Apple, he will quickly pull out these tactics to undermine the opposition's credibility/integrity or the survey's results
@STELLA -> There is very little difference between a Troll and Fan boy!
The pot calling the kettle black me thinks
News for me. Sure I don't agree with everything Apple does, and certianly don't agree with apple's mobile strategy. Apple's PC line is great, however.
That does not make me a troll, and certainly not a fan boy!!!!