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Konami exec. says Metal Gear Solid may go to other consoles

Yeah, I noticed one of my older threads (re: Socom) has been getting replies lately... and I'm adding another "disappointed in this PS3 game" thread. But oh well. This isn't even the same, I was criticizing the released screenshots. MGS4 looks pretty darn good, my complaints are for the game itself, and specifically the demonstration of it being played.

I said in the OT, I was looking forward to this game and it was definitely something I personally considered a AAA title that I'd like to have.

I may not have wanted to buy a PS3 for, but that doesn't mean it's not "about the games".

I expected more, evidentally the few of you that responded have low expectations already.

Come on people, all you can do is complain about who is posting rather then make a real response?

I brought up points you're not even willing to mention, I honestly expected better content in your posts - even if you all are often labelled "SDF"

Yeah, I'm pretty annoyed the live demo of MGS4, a game I had high hopes for, was so ridiculously stupid. That is pretty frustrating, I've always liked MGS.
 
Haoshiro said:
Yeah, I noticed one of my older threads (re: Socom) has been getting replies lately... and I'm adding another "disappointed in this PS3 game" thread. But oh well. This isn't even the same, I was criticizing the released screenshots. MGS4 looks pretty darn good, my complaints are for the game itself, and specifically the demonstration of it being played.

I said in the OT, I was looking forward to this game and it was definitely something I personally considered a AAA title that I'd like to have.

I may not have wanted to buy a PS3 for, but that doesn't mean it's not "about the games".

I expected more, evidentally the few of you that responded have low expectations already.

Come on people, all you can do is complain about who is posting rather then make a real response?

I brought up points you're not even willing to mention, I honestly expected better content in your posts - even if you all are often labelled "SDF"

Yeah, I'm pretty annoyed the live demo of MGS4, a game I had high hopes for, was so ridiculously stupid. That is pretty frustrating, I've always liked MGS.
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Yeah man, MGS4 suddenly went from being the most desired PS3 exclusive to be ported to 360 to "This sucks, who could possibly want this?"
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:rolleyes:

No wonder you are bitter... Your points are asinine thats why you aren't getting much response. It's easy to nit pick any game and make it seem as bad as you want it to in your own little Wii60 worlds.

Ed
 
2nyRiggz said:
Zap, I'm not trying to get on him for it being a PS3 title(although if it was a 360 title I don't think he would push it this hard)....Things that are in this game have been in past MGS games...I just don't get it.

Some of the things he is pointing out are just plain old nitpicking and thats fine but we have a MGS4 thread already...I don't think this warrants another one where we will discuss exactly the same thing.

All this will do is start another stupid thread about PS3 VS 360....its rather nuts.
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Yes, I would complain the same. That, in fact, is one of the main points. I really wanted this to come to 360.

My thread is about the Live Demonstration, showing the gameplay, and wondering what the heck other people's reactions are to it.

I'm peeved that it hasn't seemed to evolve, and instead they are "showing off" stupid little things.

"Next-Gen" is more and more about immersion, and the last thing I was able to do watching that demo was be "immersed".

If you think it was all great, fine, say so. Have a good counter to my complaints? Post it.

If you are just going to complain about "me", don't reply :p :rolleyes:
 
zap2 said:
2nyRiggz, Coded-Dude and Ed H......come on. Its possible that people are dissapointed with MGS4. And that has nothing to do with PS3...I know, hard to believe in.

From what I've seen, Snake is sick, and looking a magazines heals him? That sounds stupid to me.


I don't think that people on this forum, are always out to point that "X" system is bad...maybe I'm just out of the loop.
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Spot On, thanks.
 
I was very impressed with that first trailer, the "this is MGS" one.

I'm very dissapointed with the newest one. That's if it's the same one they have rolling in Gamestations on the PS3 display unit. All I saw was some kind of semi-sephia transparency over the lens, with ultra block textures (I've seen Dreamcast games that have smoother looking wheels).

I was impressed by the facial features but everything else looked like an upscaled PS2 game.

Always thought that MGS4 would be the game to show off the PS3 hardware too.

I sit in absolute disbelief that this game can't fit on a DVD with textures that bad.
 
Ed H said:
:rolleyes:

No wonder you are bitter... Your points are asinine thats why you aren't getting much response. It's easy to nit pick any game and make it seem as bad as you want it to in your own little Wii60 worlds.

Ed
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Oh really? Did you even watch the demonstration?

I pretty much talked about nearly every point shown off in the demo. If these are "nit picks", then why did they specifically call them out and detail them?

This is the first showing off of the game, and you're trying to tell me I should ignore the majority of what they talked about because I would be "nit picking"? Don't be silly :p
 
15 minutes of game-play(from an alpha demo) for an IP that won't be out for another 8-9 months.
yeah.....lets base the final product on that. :rolleyes:

Seriously, this game went from "incredible" to "incredibly dumb" in about 5-10 minutes.
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I would be curious to see what the effects would be if I started nit picking every little nuance in games I never had an interest in from the start either.
The game has always been exclusive I guess some people are just in denial. If you can't appreciate Hideo's game/story delivery(There has always has been subtle humor in the way Hideo develops the game/gameplay. ), thats fine, you are entitled to your opinion....but its been the same throughout the series. Why bash it now like this is new? The above statement is not necessary and will only invite the kind of comments that were posted above.

How about the electric shock knife, or the real-time battle going on all around you that never ends the same, or the ability to change a battle your self by making allies with a certain side. Oh, and I'd guess you'd prefer to walk around in a box the whole time(instead of rollong enemies of in a barrel). Dynamically cast lighting, Just as many polygons in Snake's mustache as there were in an entire enemy in MGS3. Realistic dust/smoke. Bullets kicking up dirt trails as they race across the ground. Fully controllable camera. Jump into a diving roll, etc. etc. etc. I could give you hundreds of reasons why this exclusive IP is goign to be one of the best selling games of this gen, but would it really matter. You've already dismissed it.

They showed of some of the NEW features........though I am sure there are mcuh more. But like I said teh story has always been about the gameplay/story(not graphics - which are stellar).
 
So they're reducing the number of polygons for important things like wheels and barrels by making a very detailed mustache?
 
keep dismissing and complaining jimmi.....I know you really wanted this title.
(it was in regards to the level of detail that went into the character you will be comanding throughout the game)

Who really cares about a barrell you'll only see a few times.:rolleyes:
 
Coded-Dude said:
15 minutes of game-play(from an alpha demo) for an IP that won't be out for another 8-9 months.
yeah.....lets base the final product on that. :rolleyes:



I would be curious to see what the effects would be if I started nit picking every little nuance in games I never had an interest in from the start either.
The game has always been exclusive I guess some people are just in denial. If you can't appreciate Hideo's game/story delivery(There has always has been subtle humor in the way Hideo develops the game/gameplay. ), thats fine, you are entitled to your opinion....but its been the same throughout the series. Why bash it now like this is new? The above statement is not necessary and will only invite the kind of comments that were posted above.

How about the electric shock knife, or the real-time battle going on all around you that never ends the same, or the ability to change a battle your self by making allies with a certain side. Oh, and I'd guess you'd prefer to walk around in a box the whole time(instead of rollong enemies of in a barrel). Dynamically cast lighting, Just as many polygons in Snake's mustache as there were in an entire enemy in MGS3. Realistic dust/smoke. Bullets kicking up dirt trails as they race across the ground. Fully controllable camera. Jump into a diving roll, etc. etc. etc. I could give you hundreds of reasons why this exclusive IP is goign to be one of the best selling games of this gen, but would it really matter. You've already dismissed it.
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This was a gameplay demonstration, they were showing off the game. Yeah, you can expect official demos like this to be a base for opinion.

Like I said, the graphics were good.

But don't complain because it's always "been this way"? That's why a lot of people complain. Imagine if Mario platformers had not evolved from SMB. Or if MGS games were only visually better then the old Metal Gear games.

I'm looking for improved controls, not Tomb Raider syndrome ("well we did it like this in TR1, we'll do it in every other TR game too") - AND refined gameplay and immersion. Better presentation *during* gameplay (not just cutscenes). True innovations and evolution *leaps* - not baby steps.

A lot of the things you mention are just standard fare these days. Dynamic lighting and shadows, high poly counts, Dust/smoke, bullets kicking up dirt, fully controllable camera. I've played plenty of games where you could jump and dive, why should that impress me? Because all this is finally in an MGS game?

Sure, story and events could be great. Maybe he should make movies, not games.

I didn't complain about knifing someone, or the controllable Metal Gear, or the graphics. Clunky animation, unbelievable "hiding" mechanics, and focusing on barrels and magazines as health... man.

And no, I'd rather not run around in a box either. That wasn't the best idea ever, and changing it to a barrel doesn't make it better.
 
Coded-Dude said:
keep dismissing and complaining jimmi.....I know you really wanted this title.
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You fail at reading people it seems. My MGS collection consists of MGS1 and Twin Snakes, after the dogs breakfast they made of 2 and by 3 (which hasn't evolved much from MGS1) we had a better tactical espionage action game in the form of Splinter Cell which does seem to evolve at a better pace.

So the FPS MGS video wasn't real time after all? I'm doubting that now.
 
Coded-Dude said:
15 minutes of game-play(from an alpha demo) for an IP that won't be out for another 8-9 months.
yeah.....lets base the final product on that. :rolleyes:
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True...graphics should be judged much until release. Maybe "oohh, that looks bad, but they'll have time to improve it", or "wow, thats amaazing, and it still has a while until launch"
 
Well I for one was quite impressed with the demonstration. Yes, the comic idea for healing is a bit daft, but overall it looked impressive to me.

Mind you I'm not prepared to buy a PS3 just yet, and if I ever do end up buying one MGS4 will be a platinum release by then, but it still looks like a very solid game.
 
Those little things are silly and rediculous, but that's part of MGS.

They had a freakin' guy that could pee on you in MGS2 after all.

EDIT: I do want to point out that I do love MGS and my comment just above this is not meant to be negative. I do enjoy those silly things. It's part of MGS's charm. :)
 
One minute everybody is saying MGS4 will be on the 360, next minute they're expressing their hate for the game. Huh?!

MGS has always been known for tongue-in-cheek humor.

Nothing beats MGS3 as far as the story goes. I think it's just ingenious what The Boss told Naked Snake and very relevant to the times. MGS4 without doubt commentary about the world now and the future. Chaos in the Middle East? Private military companies? War economy? Sounds familiar...

The only complaints I have about the graphics are jaggies I see in some of the shadows and the character models. I'm watching the HD gameplay demo where the van blow-up, and I see tires that looks perfectly round to me... Character animations could use a few extra frames here and there, not that Splinter Cell was smooth as butter either. I enjoyed Double Agent, but it felt clunkier than MGS. Compared to a game like Gears of War which is supposedly the best looking game out there right now, Metal Gear Solid 4 looks comparable and better in most places.

Silly fanboys, you're all complaining just because it's on the PS3. MGS hasn't changed.
 
I've just finished watching the in-game video and I think it looks a pretty intense experience.

However, I do not like the stop-start nature of using those menus to select weapons, camouflage etc. For me, it kind of spoils the 'flow'.
 
BoyBach said:
I've just finished watching the in-game video and I think it looks a pretty intense experience.

However, I do not like the stop-start nature of using those menus to select weapons, camouflage etc. For me, it kind of spoils the 'flow'.
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I hear you. Although the menu loads instantaneously now, at least. In MGS3, it took a moment for the menu to pop up, which killed the flow for sure.
 
apparently HMV is taking pre-orders for the 360 version of MGS4...so....

Here we go again. The latest 'MGS4-going-multi-platform' rumour is interesting for two reasons. Mega entertainment retailer HMV is taking pre-orders for the 360 version right now and the firm even dates both version of the game.

Metal Gear Solid 4 will apparently be available from April 18, 2008 on PlayStation 3 only according to the listing. Then, just over five months later, the Xbox 360 will be blessed with Solid Snake's presence on September 26 (one year exactly after the launch of Halo 3, trivia fans).
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Metal Gear Solid 4 for the Xbox 360?

Damn. It would definitely be probably less than an eighth of what the game is for the PS3. The 360s DVD's couldn't hold all that data.

Wow. Metal Gear Solid Episodes. If you don't have Xbox Live, you're screwed. Haha.

And Metal Gear Solid 2 will be announced for the Wii. With Metal Gear Solid 3 following next year.
 
progx said:
Metal Gear Solid 4 for the Xbox 360?

Damn. It would definitely be probably less than an eighth of what the game is for the PS3. The 360s DVD's couldn't hold all that data.
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I bet you'd be surprised once you see how large the game actually is, compared to the BS binary data padding job they do on the BD-ROM.

Whoops...didn't mean to spoil your biased tirade there.

progx said:
And Metal Gear Solid 2 will be announced for the Wii. With Metal Gear Solid 3 following next year.
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Whew, that's good news. Considering that both were created on the DVD format, so, you know, they won't have to cut anything out. After all, with all that space on BluRay, well, it has no substitute when porting games designed for it. :rolleyes:
 
zero2dash said:
...because swapping discs is so horrendously bad and ruins the experience, doesn't it? :p

LOL :rolleyes:
whatever helps you sleep at night, knowing that the Ps3 is closer to losing another exclusive ;)
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You haven't played MGS4 apparently, should I point out a quote from the game to you? Yeahh, I think I should :D

Otacon:
"Ok snake, time to switch the disc! Look for a disc labeled "disc 2"

Snake:
"What?"

Otacon:
"You need to look for disc 2!"

Snake:
"What are you talking about?"

Otacon:
"Oh wait! We're on the PS3! No need for swapping discs!"

Blablabla.


LOL, even the producers make fun of non-bluray consoles :)

(Otacon says something in the lines of: Bluray, dual layered etc etc...)


Just couldn't keep that to myself :D

;)
 
Cranberry24 said:
You haven't played MGS4 apparently, should I point out a quote from the game to you? Yeahh, I think I should :D

Otacon:
"Ok snake, time to switch the disc! Look for a disc labeled "disc 2"

Snake:
"What?"

Otacon:
"You need to look for disc 2!"

Snake:
"What are you talking about?"

Otacon:
"Oh wait! We're on the PS3! No need for swapping discs!"

Blablabla.


LOL, even the producers make fun of non-bluray consoles :)

(Otacon says something in the lines of: Bluray, dual layered etc etc...)


Just couldn't keep that to myself :D

;)
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Yea, shockingly enough a quote from 2007 involves people who never played MGS4 at that time....who would have thought!

Edit- Who comes to a Mac site to troll about video games?
 
zap2 said:
Yea, shockingly enough a quote from 2007 involves people who never played MGS4 at that time....who would have thought!

Edit- Who comes to a Mac site to troll about video games?
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That wasn't his first post was it?

Oh, it was!

Did they sell the 2 million in a day (or whatever they claimed)?
 
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