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I have been in stores that support 'Google Pay', or Amazon Pay(?), and wonder why not Apple Pay.
If it was really Amazon Pay that is not a mobile wallet, but their saved credit card system and I have only seen it online (although it might be available in store, I just have never seen that).
 
I’d love to use Apple Pay more, but just seems that the places I shop the most frequent still don’t support it. Costco, Fry’s (Kroger), Home Depot, Lowe’s, Walmart. So even when I can use it I just kinda forget.

Wait Costco? Costco does support apple pay, they just don’t take anything but visa if you’re paying with a credit card.
 
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If it was really Amazon Pay that is not a mobile wallet, but their saved credit card system and I have only seen it online (although it might be available in store, I just have never seen that).

True, but if they take Google Pay they take Apple Pay. They can’t block a specific mobile wallet individually, that’s why any merchant thst doesn’t want to take one of them simply shuts of contactless altogether and blocks everything down to contactless cards.
 
Wait Costco? Costco does support apple pay, they just don’t take anything but visa if you’re paying with a credit card.
Online and gas they still don’t accept it, at least here. As far as in store never really noticed they added it since I use the card/cc in one and the one by me has tap to pay.
 
Online and gas they still don’t accept it, at least here. As far as in store never really noticed they added it since I use the card/cc in one and the one by me has tap to pay.

You never do because Apple Pay isn’t added specifically. If they have tap to pay then they already take apple pay too because it actually uses tap to pay. And most, if not all, costco warehouses in the US already have tap to pay.
 
I always wonder if there is something up with Redner's and AP. We always get an instant red ! and Failed. It never happens anywhere else, and the card will always work. My wife needs to try next time, and if it still fails, I'll try GP and see what happens.
 
I've actually used a few that either didn't take one of Apple or Google Pay but happily accepted the other. I didn't understand it, either but that's how it went. The Decathlon till was a bit odd, IIRR, like Uniqlo's. It used some NFC technology to read the price tag without having to scan it. You just dropped the items onto the basket and it clocked it up. Then the till died having done the difficult bit.

Remember that Apple Pay is unlimited. Just using it as a contactless card was always possible but you were subject to the £30 (now £100) limit common to all contactless cards. Tesco held out for a long time. You could use ApplePay in Lidl and Aldi for shopping over the contactless limit long before Tesco allowed you to.

That does sound odd. I’ve used my Apple watch in so many different retailers and corner shops over the past 6 years and never had an issue with it not working. I don’t think there’s a Decathlon brand anywhere near where I live so the chances of me going in one is slim. I did have an instance once where I paid for fuel over the contactless limit by accident and it accepted it much to mine and the cashiers surprise.
 
I did have an instance once where I paid for fuel over the contactless limit by accident and it accepted it much to mine and the cashiers surprise.

That’s because the contactless limit usually only applies for payments made using a contactless card, but not for those made using a mobile wallet such as apple pay due to the added security features.
 
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That does sound odd. I’ve used my Apple watch in so many different retailers and corner shops over the past 6 years and never had an issue with it not working. I don’t think there’s a Decathlon brand anywhere near where I live so the chances of me going in one is slim. I did have an instance once where I paid for fuel over the contactless limit by accident and it accepted it much to mine and the cashiers surprise.
I recently managed to pay contactless at pump. Think it was at Morrisons. It's taking far, far too long to get rid of those chip and pin machines at the pump just to avoid going in and queuing to pay.
 
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Online and gas they still don’t accept it, at least here.
I do not know where “here” is, but at every CostCo I have visited in the U.S. over the last several years (Chicagoland, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and San Francisco Bay Area) accept it at the pump.

As far as in store never really noticed they added it since I use the card/cc in one and the one by me has tap to pay.
If it has tap to pay, it has Apple Pay. I also thought that they had implemented the one tap loyalty/CC like CVS does using the Citibank card, but I do not have one, so I could no verify it.
 
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FWIW, I live in Colorado and have never been able to use Apple Pay at King Soopers.
Why is that? Pin bypass is allowed at King Soopers at least with a debit card via contactless or mobile pay.
Krogers added ApplePay to Ralphs a few months back - but it's a half-assed implementation still requires inputting a PIN code and far more interaction that at almost every other place I use ApplePay. Ideally they'll get I prove the UX soon, but I'm skeptical.
At least in Colorado pin bypass seems to be allowed with contactless debit. They have had it since early November and not sure when it was changed.
 
Apple Pay with pin is better than no Apple Pay. Still can leave your wallet at home..
Yes I know but my bank has issues with Google Pay debit though some places work but NCR and Toshiba systems always decline. If I use my contactless debit card it works if pin is forced via contactless so I'd say that it's Google Pay's fault. If pin bypass is allowed it always works though. Speaking of Kroger I won't be shopping at my local banner until they accept contactless. I used it in Colorado without problems so I'd say it's ready to rollout at all banners. No idea what the hold up is and it's annoying.
 
Sometimes they don’t advertise it at all. When Randall’s (owned by Albertson’s group) enabled contactless I saw no indication of it at their stores, other than the four dots simulating the lights of the contactless showing up on the pinpad screen.
That is exactly what happened at the Kroger's yesterday. Four lights and tap with my watch. So happy! And the checker was happy too, as she uses Apple Pay all the time and was frustrated she couldn't use it in the store she worked for.
 
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Apple Pay is the most used form of contactless in the US, by a lot. It's like 80% or more. And this is an apple site, so they focus on that.

what i meant to really ask was is the term "Apple Pay" synonymous with "Contactless" / "NFC" in US shopping nomenclature.

sounds like yes, so no I understand that when I read "Apple Pay" in articles such as this.. it really simply means "Contactless"

I guess this is/was due to the fact that contactless payments were so far behind in the US when Apple Pay was released that it's considered one and the same...

Side question: Do the US folks have NFC debit and credit cards, or still signing the receipt 🤣
 
what i meant to really ask was is the term "Apple Pay" synonymous with "Contactless" / "NFC" in US shopping nomenclature.

sounds like yes, so no I understand that when I read "Apple Pay" in articles such as this.. it really simply means "Contactless"

I guess this is/was due to the fact that contactless payments were so far behind in the US when Apple Pay was released that it's considered one and the same...

Side question: Do the US folks have NFC debit and credit cards, or still signing the receipt 🤣
Yes to both questions. We do have NFC debit and credit cards as well, and we don't sign anything unless it's a restaurant....even if you tapped to pay!

A lot more people tap cards than phones, but the phones have been growing definitely. And pretty much everywhere has tap to pay unless you are talking about the large stores like what's mentioned here, or Walmart. The main reason they disabled tap to pay is to force people to download their app.
 
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pretty much everywhere has tap to pay unless you are talking about the large stores like what's mentioned here, or Walmart. The main reason they disabled tap to pay is to force people to download their app.

And unless you’re talking about sit down restaurants. Though some do have tap to pay and the list keeps growing, that’s still far from being the norm. At most of them, anyone who has an NFC debit or credit card is out of luck for tapping to pay: they still have to hand the card over to the waiter/waitress, who will take it away to their station and most likely process the payment via chip or magnetic stripe rather than tapping. Some of those places where physical cards are taken away do take apple pay and google pay, but as online payments via a QR or app, not via nfc, but many of them don’t even do that.
 
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And unless you’re talking about sit down restaurants. Though some do have tap to pay and the list keeps growing, that’s still far from being the norm. At most of them, anyone who has an NFC debit or credit card is out of luck for tapping to pay: they still have to hand the card over to the waiter/waitress, who will take it away to their station and most likely process the payment via chip or magnetic stripe rather than tapping. Some of those places where physical cards are taken away do take apple pay and google pay, but as online payments via a QR or app, not via nfc, but many of them don’t even do that.
A lot of my local sit downs have tablets the server has (toast go, or heartland payment etc, Clover flex), a QR code, or a Ziosk. I haven’t had to hand my card over in a long time.

I guess my experience like everything else is anecdotal.
 
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A lot of my local sit downs have tablets the server has (toast go, or heartland payment etc, Clover flex), a QR code, or a Ziosk. I haven’t had to hand my card over in a long time.

I guess my experience like everything else is anecdotal.
There are also mid-range chains (I think Applebee's is one) that have tablet's sitting on each table with multiple uses (advertising, play "games" [of dubious entertainment value] while waiting for food, etc) but one of those uses is pay when you are done.

 
There are also mid-range chains (I think Applebee's is one) that have tablet's sitting on each table with multiple uses (advertising, play "games" [of dubious entertainment value] while waiting for food, etc) but one of those uses is pay when you are done.

That’s all most use it for. Nobody plays the games that can be played on your phone for free. I also use the call server button if offered because it’s easier than waiting to try to flag one down.
 
Yes to both questions. We do have NFC debit and credit cards as well, and we don't sign anything unless it's a restaurant....even if you tapped to pay!

A lot more people tap cards than phones, but the phones have been growing definitely. And pretty much everywhere has tap to pay unless you are talking about the large stores like what's mentioned here, or Walmart. The main reason they disabled tap to pay is to force people to download their app.
Even some restaurants won't make me sign if I use the Apple Card, and they ask the tip before they submit.
 
There are also mid-range chains (I think Applebee's is one) that have tablet's sitting on each table with multiple uses (advertising, play "games" [of dubious entertainment value] while waiting for food, etc) but one of those uses is pay when you are done.

Chili's, Cheddars, Bdubs, etc do, but AppleBees got rid of theirs.
 
as online payments via a QR or app, not via nfc, but many of them don’t even do that.
Cracker Barrel where I live has a QR code on the receipt that you can scan with your camera. It opens Safari where you can select a tip and then pay with Apple Pay. It’s not NFC but it’s also me not giving them my physical card or card number.
 
what i meant to really ask was is the term "Apple Pay" synonymous with "Contactless" / "NFC" in US shopping nomenclature.

sounds like yes, so no I understand that when I read "Apple Pay" in articles such as this.. it really simply means "Contactless"

I guess this is/was due to the fact that contactless payments were so far behind in the US when Apple Pay was released that it's considered one and the same...

Side question: Do the US folks have NFC debit and credit cards, or still signing the receipt 🤣
Apple Pay is a form of NFC payment, but in some ways it’s more secure than the tap to pay on android. I always like calling it Apple Pay, because it drives the android crowd insane 😂

I think I’ve started getting NFC on my credit and debit cards within the past year. I guess it depends on what bank you have. One of my banks has moved to NFC debit cards, but is only issuing them out when the old ones expire or are lost.

Most countries have moved to contactless payments. In China everything is with WeChat. I went over there on vacation about 10 years ago, and I was amazed by this. You can order a haircut and pay for it as you’re walking to the barbershop.
 
Cracker Barrel where I live has a QR code on the receipt that you can scan with your camera. It opens Safari where you can select a tip and then pay with Apple Pay. It’s not NFC but it’s also me not giving them my physical card or card number.
They also have Apple Pay when you walk up to pay at the little store.
 
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