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Take a picture of the Lane/7000s with ctls enabled Lowe's as I went to one and it still didn't have it. Would be cool to know what it will soon look like. Now speaking of Kroger I see why they didn't bother adding a ctls logo to their system as the brand new Verifone M424s have the ctls reader built in with the logo built into the new machine. Still have not seen those here as it's still pretty early in the rollout.View attachment 2289924

It looks just like the verifone m424 on your picture.The Ingenico Lane 7000, too, has the contactless reader to the left of the keypad and the logo lights up in exactly the same way.
 
People on twitter keep saying the Kroger store they went into still doesn't have Apple Pay. But I can never get anyone to respond with the store location. Has anyone here been to a location that does not have it yet?
 
People on twitter keep saying the Kroger store they went into still doesn't have Apple Pay. But I can never get anyone to respond with the store location. Has anyone here been to a location that does not have it yet?
Where?

I’ve visited a few in KY and OH and all worked fine.
 
Kroger’s Southeast subsidiary, Harris Teeter, finally added acceptance of Apple Pay to their store registers, and it works very well. They did this just shortly after their own app created a QR code that accepted payments wirelessly, and that worked well also. Of the four HT stores I’ve visited every one of them accepted AP.
 
Kroger’s Southeast subsidiary, Harris Teeter, finally added acceptance of Apple Pay to their store registers, and it works very well. They did this just shortly after their own app created a QR code that accepted payments wirelessly, and that worked well also. Of the four HT stores I’ve visited every one of them accepted AP.
Kroger (finally) began accepting Apple Pay sometime last year. Now we are just waiting on Home Depot & Walmart. I kind of have some hope for Walmart as there has been somewhat signs of movement, but Home Depot, I have seen NO movement whatsoever. Lowe's has Apple Pay though.
 
I'll never understand some of the stupid decisions these companies make in the US when it comes to payments. Here in the UK it doesn't matter who the payment is made by or what device its paid with as long as you can pay. As long as the store takes contactless which is pretty close to everyone here now then any device that can pay through contactless just works. I work retail and a large amount of transactions are done through phone contactless payments now with the odd Apple Watch payment, so if we decided to block only Apple it would be business suicide.

If your running a business then your number one priority is make money, you don't block a particular payment provider because you don't like it, that's just stupid. I haven't carried a wallet or cash since Apple Pay came out, so close to 9yrs now. So if they don't take contactless through Apple then they've lost a customer.
 
I’ll continue to use Kroger Pay to get 5% cash back using my Kroger credit card and applying my card number simultaneously. If you are using a Kroger shopper card, Kroger Pay will be faster than entering your Kroger number + paying with Apple Pay.
 
I'll never understand some of the stupid decisions these companies make in the US when it comes to payments. Here in the UK it doesn't matter who the payment is made by or what device its paid with as long as you can pay. As long as the store takes contactless which is pretty close to everyone here now then any device that can pay through contactless just works. I work retail and a large amount of transactions are done through phone contactless payments now with the odd Apple Watch payment, so if we decided to block only Apple it would be business suicide.

If your running a business then your number one priority is make money, you don't block a particular payment provider because you don't like it, that's just stupid. I haven't carried a wallet or cash since Apple Pay came out, so close to 9yrs now. So if they don't take contactless through Apple then they've lost a customer.
Easy: most stores in the US actually hate cards and don't want to encourage their use more than they actually have to. Unfortunately for them, there aren't really any other viable options, either, other than one-off custom apps (like what Kroger and Walmart have, for example).
 
I'll never understand some of the stupid decisions these companies make in the US when it comes to payments. Here in the UK it doesn't matter who the payment is made by or what device its paid with as long as you can pay. As long as the store takes contactless which is pretty close to everyone here now then any device that can pay through contactless just works. I work retail and a large amount of transactions are done through phone contactless payments now with the odd Apple Watch payment, so if we decided to block only Apple it would be business suicide.

If your running a business then your number one priority is make money, you don't block a particular payment provider because you don't like it, that's just stupid. I haven't carried a wallet or cash since Apple Pay came out, so close to 9yrs now. So if they don't take contactless through Apple then they've lost a customer.


It’s the same in the US: anywhere contactless works so does apple pay. What these companies such as Walmart are doing is disabling contactless altogether since they can’t block apple pay individually (i.e., there’s no tap to pay whatsoever at those places, you must insert your card to pay). And they can afford the luxury because people in the US still don’t mind the absence of tapping the way Europeans would (heck, they don’t even mind the waiters taking away their card at restaurants like it was still 1999).
 
I'll never understand some of the stupid decisions these companies make in the US when it comes to payments. Here in the UK it doesn't matter who the payment is made by or what device its paid with as long as you can pay. As long as the store takes contactless which is pretty close to everyone here now then any device that can pay through contactless just works. I work retail and a large amount of transactions are done through phone contactless payments now with the odd Apple Watch payment, so if we decided to block only Apple it would be business suicide.

If your running a business then your number one priority is make money, you don't block a particular payment provider because you don't like it, that's just stupid. I haven't carried a wallet or cash since Apple Pay came out, so close to 9yrs now. So if they don't take contactless through Apple then they've lost a customer.
It’s obvious they’re really making money through other means (data mining).

The whole store thing is just a front to their operation it feels like. I mean Walmart just bought Vizio, and tvs isn’t about selling items.
 
Kroger (finally) began accepting Apple Pay sometime last year. Now we are just waiting on Home Depot & Walmart. I kind of have some hope for Walmart as there has been somewhat signs of movement, but Home Depot, I have seen NO movement whatsoever. Lowe's has Apple Pay though.
Apparently Home Depots Lane/7000s have started to blink as well not only Walmarts. Also I wonder when Kroger will add contactless to their gas pumps?
 
Apparently Home Depots Lane/7000s have started to blink as well not only Walmarts. Also I wonder when Kroger will add contactless to their gas pumps?
There have been a couple HD workers report that the Vice President of Stores and Operations told them that they will have contactless turned on this summer. I'm hopeful, but wouldn't count it as more than a rumor at this point.

HEB leadership accounced last year they would have it by the end of 2023, but that didn't happen. Rumor is now they will do it this quarter. That means before summer begins. We will see.
 
There have been a couple HD workers report that the Vice President of Stores and Operations told them that they will have contactless turned on this summer. I'm hopeful, but wouldn't count it as more than a rumor at this point.

Why would a store turn off contactless payments?

Contactless payments have been around for a while and many cards have it today.

We used to have swipe, then we moved to chip, and now we have contactless. So why would a store prefer one method over the other? Is there an advantage for the store?
 
Why would a store turn off contactless payments?

Contactless payments have been around for a while and many cards have it today.

We used to have swipe, then we moved to chip, and now we have contactless. So why would a store prefer one method over the other? Is there an advantage for the store?

There actually used to be a significant advantage for US stores as contactless could cost them more money (whether that's due to debit cards being run "as credit" or simply people being more likely to tap credit cards overall). I wouldn't say we're fully there yet but it's getting to the point where (some) stores might lose more customers than it'd be worth.
 
Why would a store turn off contactless payments?

Contactless payments have been around for a while and many cards have it today.

We used to have swipe, then we moved to chip, and now we have contactless. So why would a store prefer one method over the other? Is there an advantage for the store?
Likely because they use custom POS software that don't have the functionality to utilize the NFC capability of the card terminal. Many large chain stores such as Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Lowes, and Target have their own software packages, so they would have to pay programmers to add that functionality. It took Lowes quite a while to roll it out, and it's taking HEB a while too.
 
There have been a couple HD workers report that the Vice President of Stores and Operations told them that they will have contactless turned on this summer. I'm hopeful, but wouldn't count it as more than a rumor at this point.

HEB leadership accounced last year they would have it by the end of 2023, but that didn't happen. Rumor is now they will do it this quarter. That means before summer begins. We will see.

HEB Texas had better catch up soon. HEB stores in Mexico already have contactless enabled since October/November 2023, only the Texas stores persist in not having it.
 
Likely because they use custom POS software that don't have the functionality to utilize the NFC capability of the card terminal. Many large chain stores such as Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Lowes, and Target have their own software packages, so they would have to pay programmers to add that functionality. It took Lowes quite a while to roll it out, and it's taking HEB a while too.

Funny thing is HEB stores in Mexico already added it and the ones in Texas still don’t have it.
 
I was in the server room of an HEB the other day working on a coupon printer problem. The guys who were sent to work on the POS system, were there, but they had no knowledge that contactless payments are coming, so now I am less hopeful that this is more than a rumor.
 
I was in the server room of an HEB the other day working on a coupon printer problem. The guys who were sent to work on the POS system, were there, but they had no knowledge that contactless payments are coming, so now I am less hopeful that this is more than a rumor.
Different people handle the Point of Sale software. The contactless payments would just be enabled by a pushed software update, and that is it.
 
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I was in the server room of an HEB the other day working on a coupon printer problem. The guys who were sent to work on the POS system, were there, but they had no knowledge that contactless payments are coming, so now I am less hopeful that this is more than a rumor.

I think the rumor may have been about HEB Mexico and people mistakenly thought that was about HEB in the US. HEB stores in Mexico did turn on the contactless before the end of 2023 (around september) after all.
 
I think the rumor may have been about HEB Mexico and people mistakenly thought that was about HEB in the US. HEB stores in Mexico did turn on the contactless before the end of 2023 (around september) after all.
Hmm. Good point. Dissapointing, though. If that's the case, Home Depot may end up turning it on before HEB. I'd much rather they did too. I shop at HD more than HEB.
 
I wonder is it possible for tap-to-pay terminal to only support tap-to-pay credit or debit cards and not support Apple Pay/Google Wallet? That way, nobody has to deal with the fee issues of Apple Pay or Google Wallet.
 
As someone who has occasion to visit Kroger stores a fair bit (Fred Meyer), this change continues to delight me.

I use Garmin Pay on my watch there all the time
 
I wonder is it possible for tap-to-pay terminal to only support tap-to-pay credit or debit cards and not support Apple Pay/Google Wallet? That way, nobody has to deal with the fee issues of Apple Pay or Google Wallet.

It might be possible soon based on that recent interchange lawsuit settlement that got ironed out.

That said, the only ones who should be having issues with the fees (if anyone) would be the banks. Anything else that would cause merchants to pay more (like being unable to route as anything other than credit) would be a problem with regular contactless too.
 
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I wonder is it possible for tap-to-pay terminal to only support tap-to-pay credit or debit cards and not support Apple Pay/Google Wallet? That way, nobody has to deal with the fee issues of Apple Pay or Google Wallet.
Apple Pay and Google Wallet have the same merchant fees as tap-to-pay. It doesn't cost them anything extra.
 
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