Their camera don't actually come from Leica. They're Sony sensors. They licensed the Leica brand and probably received collaborations in color and post processing in the software.
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Kuo: 2023 iPhones to Feature 'Periscopic' Telephoto Lens
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I can't disagree, because I don't had that level of information also, I was originally going to say that the other option for the sensor should be Sony. All of our broadcast cameras at work are Sony and previously Ikegami. Almost all of the freelance camera people that I know are using Sony A7/A9 series cameras to augment big brother Sony cameras...FX9, F55, etc. I would have to imagine that Leica with licensing would have a design say in the process of the package too.
Periscopic Telephoto Lens seems like it would be a pretty cool thing in 2023. Which will probably be the iPhone 14 or 15.
There are many other reasons for zoom besides improving perceived proximity to the subject or field of view. I prefer the compression effect of mid telephoto focal distances which is sorely missing from all focal lengths on current iPhones. Not sure who find the ultra wide lens useful.
I would happily use a slightly thicker iPhone with greater photography capabilities than carry an extra device like camera or GoPro. Sony was into something with those camera lenses that used the phone as the camera interface.
Because it's not really that relevant to MacOS and iOS. That is a different world. Yes Unix is "it" but on a normal day to day level how many people are capable.....in a consumer market to use Unix...we are talking consumer market here. Also, If memory serves my right, I don't think Unix has a GUI. I work with a Unix guy and hey laughs about a mouse....
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What else is left to do with phones beside making better cameras?
They should change the name from iPhone to iPocket computer, because it's not a "phone" like back in the day.....
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iPhones substituted telephoto camera for ultra-wide as a default option at the exact time the "Pro" line emerged. That's not a coincidence. Apple now treats telephoto as a "Pro" feature, e.g if you want to zoom in - pay up. And many people do. On the other hand, it's hard to imagine upselling anyone on the ultrawide camera.
As for Androids, even on lower midrange devices, starting from about $300 (save for Pixels that rely on Super Res Zoom to do the job) it's pretty much the standard now to have at least 3 cameras, one of which is always a telephoto.
I disagree. Majority of three or more cameras on current Androids are wide, ultra-wide, macro/depth-sensor. Even some of the flagships don't have telephoto (eg. Mi 11). For Samsung, you have to get the Galaxy S phones to have telephoto for the current lineup. Their highest mid-range, A71, doesn't have one.
In short, majority of the phones out there on the market (top selling Android phones worldwide are Galaxy A51 and the Redmi phones) have wide and ultra-wide cameras. Telephoto is actually a more niche feature, only showing in flagships.
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And yet nearly all current phones on the market have ultra-wide, while only few flagships have telephoto. Go figure.
In real life, people want to have group shots, and ultra wide allows them to do that. Meanwhile, telephoto can be simulated with digital zoom, which is improving in quality thanks to high res sensor and machine learning.
Apple made the right decision by sticking the telephoto for the Pro iPhones for now. They know that those who are wanting telephoto would be more enthusiasts for their photography needs. Majority of the market are not.
I’m one of those people who has had an 11 Pro for over a year and has used the ultra wide and telephoto maybe once. I use the main lens because it takes consistently higher quality photos than the other two lenses 🤷♂️
Agreed. Apple is only saving me money and preventing profits in that they're not likely to entice me with other features to upgrade until then.
It really comes down to their QA practices. Apple engineers are lazy and use internship or inexperienced people to do the job. They also expect to learn from them once they stopped innovating. Its easy to blame and get rid of inexperienced QA people and Apple engineers are far entitled right now so it totally makes sense.
It’s not a rushed feature. Last year on the S20 Ultra it was not ready for prime time. But my S21 Ultra camera performs very well and the optical zoom works very well, dare I say perfectly through its full range in good daylight conditions. Indoors photo quality is comparable to that of my 12 Pro Max. Where the iPhone camera generally excels is in pulling out subtle texture details that the Samsung doesn’t capture. Both phones suffer from noise and water colors effects in some low light conditions.
I prefer iOS due to my reliance on iMessages and the overall ecosystem, which is why I would choose the 12 Pro Max over my S21 Ultra if I had to choose just one. But just on the basis of cameras, I’d probably pick the S21 Ultra at this point as the versatility offered by the extended zoom capability is something I enjoy. However I haven’t done a full comparison between video recording performance yet.
I look forward to iPhones getting extended optical zoom capability to rival that offered by Samsung. I do think the Apple photo processing software is currently a bit better but Samsung regularly pushes camera updates even to last year’s phones.
It's OK, I can see she uses a Windows PC so she's not likely to visit MacRumors, and even if she did she wouldn't know my username.
I suppose it's possible for you to sound more dramatic...but I'm not sure how.
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nobody wants a 100x digital zoom but 10x optical is a BIG difference.
