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They better keep two cameras in the 5.8, I can't imagine them changing that (?) without a drastic price drop. I've been waiting years to finally have the two camera setup, hoping to get the X2. Plus size phones are bricks to hold, I could never do it.

I imagine they would retain the dual lenses, but I meant anything new like say, a third camera.
 
I know this is a relatively old thread but I just thought of something - the whole-screen feature of the iPhone X is because of flexible OLED. LCD isn't flexible, so any iPhones with that won't be whole-screen and will necessitate at least a chin or forehead.
 
Nope. I call bullsh*t on this one. Hard to justify $1000 for a phone if it can be seen to compromise for a $3 saving.

More likely they are adding a feature, such as long-press, that replicates the 3D Touch on hardware that doesn’t have it, so support can be assumed by developers.
 
Nope. I call bullsh*t on this one. Hard to justify $1000 for a phone if it can be seen to compromise for a $3 saving.

More likely they are adding a feature, such as long-press, that replicates the 3D Touch on hardware that doesn’t have it, so support can be assumed by developers.
Well the current price rumor is $600-700; I can’t imagine $600 when it’s a replacement for the $699/$799 iPhone 8/8 Plus. Personally I think $749 will be the price.

That said, it does seem a weird feature to use as a differentiator from the more expensive X models. OLED, RAM, camera, lens—sure... but 3D Touch? Who wants that so bad they’ll pay an extra $150?

But it is a new display, so it’s not like there wouldn’t be development costs. And there won’t have been hundreds of millions already manufactured to bring the cost to 4.7”/5.5” levels. So who knows, maybe they did just decide not to include it, from the start.

A lot of users don’t even seem to know it exists. And who can blame them? The UI for 3D Touch has always sucked, with no indication whatsoever where it’s usable. Violates a prime tenet of good UI. Requiring knowledge “in the head” vs. having that knowledge presented “in the world” is bad UI.
 
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Well the current price rumor is $600-700; I can’t imagine $600 when it’s a replacement for the $699/$799 iPhone 8/8 Plus. Personally I think $749 will be the price.

That said, it does seem a weird feature to use as a differentiator from the more expensive X models. OLED, RAM, camera, lens—sure... but 3D Touch? Who wants that so bad they’ll pay an extra $150?

But it is a new display, so it’s not like there wouldn’t be development costs. And there won’t have been hundreds of millions already manufactured to bring the cost to 4.7”/5.5” levels. So who knows, maybe they did just decide not to include it, from the start.

A lot of users don’t even seem to know it exists. And who can blame them? The UI for 3D Touch has always sucked, with no indication whatsoever where it’s usable. Violates a prime tenet of good UI—requiring knowledge “in the head” vs. having that knowledge presented “in the world”.
I don’t think it’s a differentiator, it’s just something to omit to save money on components to allow them to price lower. It’s a shame because the 3D Touch and system haptics are one interesting area where Apple have been pioneering.
 
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Well the current price rumor is $600-700; I can’t imagine $600 when it’s a replacement for the $699/$799 iPhone 8/8 Plus. Personally I think $749 will be the price.

That said, it does seem a weird feature to use as a differentiator from the more expensive X models. OLED, RAM, camera, lens—sure... but 3D Touch? Who wants that so bad they’ll pay an extra $150?

But it is a new display, so it’s not like there wouldn’t be development costs. And there won’t have been hundreds of millions already manufactured to bring the cost to 4.7”/5.5” levels. So who knows, maybe they did just decide not to include it, from the start.

A lot of users don’t even seem to know it exists. And who can blame them? The UI for 3D Touch has always sucked, with no indication whatsoever where it’s usable. Violates a prime tenet of good UI—requiring knowledge “in the head” vs. having that knowledge presented “in the world”.

Please note not a lot of people believe that they will drop 3D Touch from the 6.1” model including Mac Rumors. So don’t be surprised in he is wrong.
 
I don’t think it’s a differentiator, it’s just something to omit to save money on components to allow them to price lower. It’s a shame because the 3D Touch and system haptics are one interesting area where Apple have been pioneering.
Well they’ll need to save on costs somewhere.

The iPhone 8 Plus is $799, with no FaceID and a smaller display. Margins would be lower for the 6.1” iPhone 9 Plus even at $749, let alone the $600-700 price being rumored by one source.

That Apple could add FaceID and a new, larger—and presumably more costly—display and simultaneously chop $200 off the selling price doesn’t seem realistic.
 
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