Comments like these show how easy is for Apple to make money on a feature that is barely noticeable by the majority of people. It won't make a huge difference, but charge it $100 more and make a huge profit.
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Kuo: AirPods Pro 2 to Feature Lossless Support and Sound-Emitting Charging Case
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Comments like these show how easy is for Apple to make money on a feature that is barely noticeable by the majority of people. It won't make a huge difference, but charge it $100 more and make a huge profit.
Why is everyone so pressed about them possibly offering lossless? Like why does it matter that much if YOU cannot tell the difference. It’s subjective depending on the content itself and equipment but do not for a second think that others NEED to be happy or satisfied with compressed anything just because you don’t see the purpose. Don’t buy them, don’t listen to lossless, do or don’t do whatever you want, but we don’t need your links to the countless ABX comparisons. It’s not really a rigorous scientific standard anyway so any data gleemed from them is subjective at best. Reminds me of the 4K naysayers and now essentially every TV over 42” is 4K. Audiophiles do not care that you’re satisfied with a format that was really only created because the storage requirements were too costly 20 years ago. They will listen to lossless regardless of your opinion.
TLDR; Let’s stop compromising on quality, it’s unnecessary going into the 2020s. You are more than welcome to listen to MP3s for the rest of your life but if I can get something that hasn’t been compressed from recording to master than that’s great in my book. You are not personally affected by other people buying a pair of AirPods.
TLDR; Let’s stop compromising on quality, it’s unnecessary going into the 2020s. You are more than welcome to listen to MP3s for the rest of your life but if I can get something that hasn’t been compressed from recording to master than that’s great in my book. You are not personally affected by other people buying a pair of AirPods.
Just reading through another Macrumors article about Apple wanting more bandwidth, I sense they're maybe aiming to come up with something to replace Bluetooth altogether?
and there's a number of tricks we can play to maximise or get around some of the limits of Bluetooth. But it's fair to say that we would like more bandwidth and... I'll stop right there. We would like more bandwidth", he smiles.
- Apple's vice president of acoustics Gary Geaves
Lol, lossless on a mass market earbud that uses tons of DSP and is tuned to be as inoffensive as possible. Don’t get me wrong, lossless streaming would be great, but I really doubt AirPods would be able to resolve that higher bitrate with any real audible difference. This is just to get people to upgrade and spend cash because the current APP are still excellent.
So I’m assuming that what ever solution Apple comes up with will be backwards compatible with the AirPod Max I paid AU $900.00 for. (just kidding I know that’s not how Apple rolls).
Yep. I'm sure it'll be something, but if they could use the existing AirPlay standard for it I'm sure they'd have done it by now.
OMG LMAO, I legit thought there was a Pro in there. AirPods Max lmaooo
What I hope for APP2 is that they've figured out whatever's causing the crackling/fit test fail/worse noise cancelling problems of the current APP, and make the necessary hardware adjustments. AirPods Pro are awesomely convenient and sound great for what they are, but I've had to have them replaced three times, which is just crazy for an Apple product. Heres hoping 👍
Are you using a third party wireless charger by any chance? I tried one recently & noticed the case got much warmer than the when using the MagSafe charger. & I also recall a comment by someone noticing a crackling noise in their AirPods only after using a third party wireless charger... ?
Yeah, my initial thought was that they’d use something similar to it.
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Probably why releasing with new iPhone.I expect the sending device to also need an upgraded Bluetooth chip. Be prepared to replace all your apple devices for this(or at least the one you use the most for listening to music)
Lossless audio and speakers for location don’t seem like things that would lead to “strong demand” relative to current demand. Nice to have, but doubt most people care.
I think there are two hidden rumors here that are being missed:
I think there are two hidden rumors here that are being missed:
- Being able to tell the difference with lossless audio. They would need to upgrade the audio quality here for it to be worth anything, so this would seem to suggest the audio will be even better on the AirPods Pro, perhaps by a fairly significant amount.
- This would require a custom wireless audio tranceiver. If Apple builds their own stack to connect to iPhone and receive audio, then perhaps this new system could be optimized for things such as longer range, lower latency, or increased efficiency. However, adding another radio would likely mean they wouldn’t be able to fit additional battery capacity into this thing. Either way it will be different than BT, so I would think Apple would try to optimize it for their hardware ecosystem to be better. But I think they will still include BT. Since they design the SoC they can do just about anything within reason.
You think the difference between a good lossy format and a lossless format is the same as a cassette --> CD?Yeah, the world said the same when CD's replaced cassettes, said no-one ever!
That says volumes about your knowledge of audio.
I'm using the Apple charger that comes with it. I'm referring to this:
AirPods Pro Service Program for Sound Issues - Apple Support
AirPods Pro Service Program for Sound Issues
support.apple.com
There's a lot of people affected, and probably more than realize, but not everyone will notice. It's not like they stop working. The noise cancelling gets worse, and especially for me, the ability to cancel the *thumps* you get from the seal with every step you take when you walk - that gets way worse.
Try the "ear tip fit test" in Settings under bluetooth when you have them in your ears. If it fails, but it tested fine initially, you might be having this problem.
Sorry, I didn't elaborate on why I asked if you used a non-Apple wireless charging pad (I wasn't referring to the case fyi). I've included why in my original post.
Ok, so.... besides bandwidth for the purposes of lossless... whether better or not.... what other reason might there be to have more bandwidth? I know zip zero zilch about audio so I'm just spitballing here... let's consider other things like AirPods use with ...AR/VR headset... their use with Apple TV watching movies... sound effects? Could spatial audio improve with more bandwidth?
Lossless on APP doesn’t seem to make much sense, unless they drastically increase sound quality, hardware-wise.
APM, lossless makes more sense, but even then my understanding is that the BT/codec stack implementation is more important than anything, and bitrate second. A good stack and 256+ AAC is likely going to sound as good as lossless.
APM, lossless makes more sense, but even then my understanding is that the BT/codec stack implementation is more important than anything, and bitrate second. A good stack and 256+ AAC is likely going to sound as good as lossless.
Your description of that makes it sound a lot like the placebo effect, but I assume you already realize that, considering how clearly you stated the scenario and the disclaimer you gave it?
The left side being for a lanyard loop? I’d think the case would be smaller (height wise) as the stems are supposed to be shrinking or disappearing.
This is one product I have been waiting a good while for. They have such a long cycle on these for updates!
Totally agree as without added fidelity the ability to receive a lossless signal doesn't necessarily yield a worthwhile result. If the new APP offer an audible improvement for AAC256 then lossless is just a bonus.