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This is fundamentally a good thing, nobody against it has a compelling argument I've read so far of why they're against it, from the American perspective of course. If the only reason you can buy goods is because of slave labor, so that Nike can sell a shoe for $500 that is made for $1 in BOM, then I don't care their profits are going down.

If your argument is that iPhones can only be made in China or else it'd cost $10,000 for one, okay explain to me why? Oh it's because of slave labor and that 90% of manufacturing has been moved to China since the 90s, and ramped up even more in the 2000s so that companies can juice out even more profit. So with tariffs there are two things that will happen, either they get a maybe ~20% price increase as they're tariffed coming in (Apple isn't going to add the entire tariff cost immediately), or they get a hypothetical doubling in cost if they're made in the USA. Ok, now imagine what the cost would be if the manufacturing line was in the US 10 years after establishment? Or even 50% of the line? You think someone in 1950 was lamenting about how expensive their toaster (an old technology at this point) was because it wasn't manufactured by slave labor? Of course not, because the manufacturing was probably done the next town over.

I actually buy things in hobbies that are USA made, like pocket knives (Spyderco, Benchmade) and guitars (Gibson, Fender). Not only is there a perception that USA made items are higher in quality (which of course isn't true, Chinese manufacturing is of course state of the art nowadays), but the argument is that the hypothetical higher price on items will stop people from buying them, even if they're luxury goods, is wrong. This doesn't stop people AT ALL. These things still sell hand over fist even compared to their secondary foreign manufactured lines within the same company, that are made in China, Mexico, Indonesia, Japan simply BECAUSE they are made in the US.

If the argument is that people will experience layoffs after this when companies say they'll be less profitable which will definitely happen, they're STILL doing that despite having record profits and having to squeeze out even more profit. Only 50% of people even own stock, and only maybe 1% own enough that makes it even life changing enough if it goes up and down, and they're all institutional players. Again, if someone is saying the decrease in stock prices gives them less capital to hire people and there will be layoffs, they're still doing that despite having record profits and all time highs in any given period. IBM and Amazon are laying off and outsourcing to India still today, even though they're richer than ever, and so is every single company.

This doesn't even take into account the actual geopolitics of a kinetic war. China makes like what 90% of all steel on earth now? You know how screwed the entire western hemisphere would be if the next week Xi Jinping just decides to invade Taiwan? It would be COVID level depression x10 or even x50. Forcing companies to ramp up domestic manufacturing in literally every country is a good idea.

I haven't read a good argument other than the repeated slop "my iPhone will be $200 to $500 more expensive". Good news Bob, the iphone actually only changes maybe every 5 years so you don't have to buy one this year, and now you won't be abusing Chinese, Vietnamese, and Bangladeshi slaves now either.
There are 2 reasons why you can’t build the iPhone in America
One is what’s been discussed that the price will go up because of wages & working conditions

Two the US doesn’t have the ability to build the iPhone to satisfy demand for it worldwide as a consequence of competition moving there business to Asia decades ago for cheap labor
 
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It isn't just iPhones and such going up. Everything is going to go up. It's not just products, but also materials that go into those products and fuel (oil and gas) needed to run machinery and transport goods into the country and to the stores near you.
 
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Stop spreading misinformation. There’s no way that can legally happen. You clearly don’t know how it works.
It is NOT misinformation. Trump clearly stated that he wants a 3rd term many times. One legal way is to have his vice president run, Trump as the VP. JD Vance would resign day 1, and Trump is back in for another term. They can also change the constitution, or have the Supreme Court re-evaluate the meaning of 2 terms to mean 2 consecutive terms.
 
There are 2 reasons why you can’t build the iPhone in America
One is what’s been discussed that the price will go up because of wages & working conditions

Two the US doesn’t have the ability to build the iPhone to satisfy demand for it worldwide as a consequence of competition moving there business to Asia decades ago for cheap labor
You're just repeating the circular slop I argued against.

It's too expensive because of labor costs -> labor costs are too expensive because the manufacturing is too specialized because there is no industry -> there is no industry because we exported jobs to slaves -> iphones would be too expensive because of labor costs

Tim Apple and Senior Vice President #600 are laughing at everyone who believes this
 
The United States is the 800 lb economic gorilla in every room around the world. That is what Trump is betting on. While I have some skepticism that Trump is implementing the tariffs in the right way, I’m very interested to see the results.
Economic collapse and decades of recession and stagflation. America falling further behind in global markets. It's going to be a wasted generation for America.
 
It is NOT misinformation. Trump clearly stated that he wants a 3rd term many times. One legal way is to have his vice president run, Trump as the VP. JD Vance would resign day 1, and Trump is back in for another term. They can also change the constitution, or have the Supreme Court re-evaluate the meaning of 2 terms to mean 2 consecutive terms.
Yes, under normal circumstances Trump is constitutionally barred from ever running again. And that includes an end run by using Vance to get in as president then resigning (not that he ever would given there is no real loyalty there). But these are not normal times and they are rigging the system to allow whatever they want to do based on fictitious rationalizations.
 
The orange dictator thinks these measures will make Amerika rich. Also, as if other countries won't retaliate with their own countermeasures. Allnof this because he mad that Europeans don't buy American cars, not realising or not willing to accept they just aren't good enough.
No. It isn’t about them buying GM or Ford cars.

“German” cars are being built in eastern europe, Spain, Mexico, China, Brazil, India, Australia, South Africa, another African nation, many other countries AND the USA. VW group, BMW and Mercedes will just have to expand their production in the USA.

Oh, and GM and Ford build cars all over the world for world markets.
 
Folks need to understand these are reciprocal tariffs. They're meant to freak the global market out, and countries will lower tariffs on US goods to compensate and get their tariffs lowered by the US. Israel already made theirs 0%. Trump will probably give special deals to Canada and Mexico if/when they do more about border security.
They actually aren't reciprocal tariffs - they are the percentage trade deficit divided by two. It ignores the reasons and benefits for the USA of such deficits and aspects that favour the USA (e.g infinite borrowing at low rates due to enforced petrodollar system, outsourcing polluting industry to China, etc), whilst reaping the benefit (e.g. Apple can produce phones cheaply in China, but have HQ in USA and be on the US stock market). These benefits have disproportionately gone to the rich, whilst the poor have been given infinite credit until the chickens come home to roost.
"This calculation assumes that persistent trade deficits are due to a combination of tariff and non-tariff factors that prevent trade from balancing."


and ELI5 explanation:

 
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Trump has zero interest in helping Americans have a better life. He doesn't really care about trade imbalances or who makes what where or national security or whatever. All of that is nonsense justification for what he really wants: He wants to be a king and for him and his cronies to line their pockets while everyone is fighting amongst each other for scraps.

Anyone who voted for him was simply a patsy he conned for him to get where he is now--in a position to lord it over everyone with the power of life and death.
 
I don't care much about Ford. I had a Mazda, which at the time was partly owned by Ford. The Mazda was great, but other than that, Ford had nothing that appealed to me. But at least they weren't letting their quality go down.

Yes, prices will rise for Americans. They have to. The President has even said that this will be painful at first. After all, nobody can build a factory in a week.

But there's a vision of a better America happening here, and I think we need to give the President a chance.
You're being too level-headed. :) I agree, we were told it will be painful, yet Wall Street is acting like they were surprised by the moves. I'll sit back and relax for a few days/weeks. We will see some major shifts from countries as they bring down tariffs on the US (while others do not...). When the dust settles, we will see what companies make the moves to US manufacturing. If I had my way, I would like to see the President allow free trade with all of North America, which would allow auto manufacturing to keep going in MX.
 
Trump has zero interest in helping Americans have a better life. He doesn't really care about trade imbalances or who makes what where or national security or whatever. All of that is nonsense justification for what he really wants: He wants to be a king and for him and his cronies to line their pockets while everyone is fighting amongst each other for scraps.

Anyone who voted for him was simply a patsy he conned for him to get where he is now--in a position to lord it over everyone with the power of life and death.
And yet all of that is better than what the dems would have done to the country.
 
Folks need to understand these are reciprocal tariffs.
They are not.
You (and many others) need to understand that Trump has been bullsh*tting you.

They've made up many of the alleged foreign "tariffs" out of thin air.
That's why they were asterisked with a "Including Currency Manipulation and Trade Barriers".
countries will lower tariffs on US goods to compensate
If tariffs are already at 0%, they can't - and won't be - be lowered (not reasonably, anyway).
 
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It is NOT misinformation. Trump clearly stated that he wants a 3rd term many times. One legal way is to have his vice president run, Trump as the VP. JD Vance would resign day 1, and Trump is back in for another term. They can also change the constitution, or have the Supreme Court re-evaluate the meaning of 2 terms to mean 2 consecutive terms.
No current constitutional way.
Many constitutional scholars have already weighed in on it:
12th Amendment, states that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice-president of the United States.” So they can't do the old switcheroo legally.

Constitutional amendment requires approval by two-thirds of Congress (or a convention) and ratification by three-fourths of the states. Unlikely.

"or have the Supreme Court re-evaluate the meaning of 2 terms to mean 2 consecutive terms."

Read the actual text: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President".

The supreme court are still reasonably straight shooters. There is no leeway in that aspect of the 22nd amendment.

Trump will try (e.g. through proxy), but there is not current way he legally can hold the office again.
 
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