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Sounds good but Apple should release a folding phone, so it can be an iPad Mini also.
 
Well that certainly sounds interesting, unique, and even innovative. Pretty cool to see them doing fresh things with the Mac
 
I WILL BE THERE IMMEDIATELY. I went from a 13" to a 15" and I'm honestly thinking about going to a 16". I love Big Laptops so I will DEFINITELY be keeping my eye on this development
 
I wonder what this says about their plans for vision pro?
Nothing. Just like Apple sells a large number of tablets, phones, laptops, and desktops, AVP is going to be one amongst many items until a future version essentially takes over. Keep in mind AVP is not going to be anywhere beyond its second iteration when this foldable laptop is supposed to come out. Apple’s not going to junk its entire line of products in two years. It really doesn’t reflect on anything towards the Vision Pro. Apple has the money and staying power until it becomes a more mature product. The first iPhone rather sucked with little functionality and no 3G. Look where it is now, 17 years later. When AVP matures, they’ll probably still sell other products for many, many years since people tend to get stuck in their ways. Just look at the reaction in this forum towards this rumored product and the AVP and all the “ew” or “why would anyone want that” or “what was Tim Cook thinking” when lots of people do want stuff like that, just not everyone. Even the concept of foldables is repelling to some while incredibly exciting for others.

Keep in mind companies think in terms of decades, not just the next year or two. They probably have every product line planned out till at least 2034.
 
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Tell me about it. Watching AAPL drop while BTC goes up has been really painful.
I planned ahead. I have a decent number of AAPL shares, though not life-changing to the point where I even track its price or care, but one of my IRA’s has gone up about 400% in the last year due to crypto already. ETH hasn’t even gotten its ETFs approved yet. When it does, the market will really explode as institutional money pours in just as it’s doing with BTC.

I prepared for the next crypto boom about five years ago by convincing my highly skeptical financial advisor to let me put some serious dough into crypto funds (at the time there were a grand total of one BTC and one ETH fund), so we compromised on converting two of our IRA’s into just those crypto funds (GBTC and ETHE) since they wouldn’t let me invest in the coins directly. Just a few months ago, she kept asking me how confident I was in that investment and whether I wanted to get out of it. She’s starting to come around to my way of thinking now. This crypto bull market is just getting started. Professional money managers think $250,000 for BTC and $20,000 for ETH is very likely in the next few years and they call that a conservative prediction with the most optimistic predictions that BTC (market cap about $1 trillion) will overtake that of gold ($13 trillion). Even the limited predictions would be life changing, and is why the institutional investors are pouring billions in every day, something never done before in prior crypto bull markets that were driven by retail investors.

Back to the current topic, though, I do look forward to this type of laptop. I poo-poo’ed foldable phones but got a Samsung just to try it out thanks to a huge trade-in allowance, one reason I run two phones now. I wanted to see what the hype was all about. They’re cool phones and can be useful, so I can see why people are excited about them. That same curiosity makes me want to check one of these out when they do come out and why I picked up an AVP. I tried to pick up one of those Asus ZenBook Duo models, but they’ve been out of stock since they came out a month ago. While not a foldable, it demonstrates what is possible with a screen on top and bottom. They’re also much cheaper than a Lenovo Fold, an actual foldable laptop.
 
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I planned ahead. I have a decent number of AAPL shares, though not life-changing to the point where I even track its price or care, but one of my IRA’s has gone up about 400% in the last year due to crypto already. ETH hasn’t even gotten its ETFs approved yet. When it does, the market will really explode as institutional money pours in just as it’s doing with BTC.

I prepared for the next crypto boom about five years ago by convincing my highly skeptical financial advisor to let me put some serious dough into crypto funds (at the time there were a grand total of one BTC and one ETH fund), so we compromised on converting two of our IRA’s into just those crypto funds (GBTC and ETHE) since they wouldn’t let me invest in the coins directly. Just a few months ago, she kept asking me how confident I was in that investment and whether I wanted to get out of it. She’s starting to come around to my way of thinking now. This crypto bull market is just getting started. Professional money managers think $250,000 for BTC and $20,000 for ETH is very likely in the next few years and they call that a conservative prediction with the most optimistic predictions that BTC (market cap about $1 trillion) will overtake that of gold ($13 trillion). Even the limited predictions would be life changing, and is why the institutional investors are pouring billions in every day, something never done before in prior crypto bull markets that were driven by retail investors.

Back to the current topic, though, I do look forward to this type of laptop. I poo-poo’ed foldable phones but got a Samsung just to try it out thanks to a huge trade-in allowance, one reason I run two phones now. I wanted to see what the hype was all about. They’re cool phones and can be useful, so I can see why people are excited about them. That same curiosity makes me want to check one of these out when they do come out and why I picked up an AVP. I tried to pick up one of those Asus ZenBook Duo models, but they’ve been out of stock since they came out a month ago. While not a foldable, it demonstrates what is possible with a screen on top and bottom. They’re also much cheaper than a Lenovo Fold, an actual foldable laptop.

I hear ya, I still have a tidy sum in BTC but I had a whole lot more a couple of years ago. BTC is the only crypto I really like, having read the white paper and understanding what sets BTC apart, my only issue is that BTC whales truly control and regularly abuse that market and that severely undermines BTC's autonomy as a financial system. But I still like the theory behind it so I keep some money in there. FYI some of my BTC money is via a ROTH IRA, the thought was if it ever skyrockets at least I won't pay tax on it. I do think BTC will go up, the halving is almost upon us and that usually shoots it through the roof, so yeah maybe it's time to move some of my AAPL seeing their poor decisions this year.
 
Which way would this fold? Off to one side, lopsided, or two folds to each side to be even?

Or just a really tall display?
 
I don’t see the point, and I don’t see it happening. The folding part is just asking for trouble, and for size why not just use a VP with the Mac?

They said the same thing about folding-screen phones, but now suddenly every phone shop is full of them!
 

Common? Do you speaka de engrish? Also, I'm not sure what device you're posting a picture of there, but it certainly isn't the Lenovo X1 16 Fold.

If you're curious of the state of foldables and what can be done with the form factor currently (to say nothing of what Apple might be doing with a release 3 years from now) this is a decent review https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/298445/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-fold-16-review
 
Which way would this fold? Off to one side, lopsided, or two folds to each side to be even?

Or just a really tall display?

Lots of options. As you can see if you check out the x1 16" review I just linked to above, there are multiple ways such a device can be usable. 4:3 ratio and can be landscape or portrait , or of course partially bent, or with half the screen covered by the keyboard, etc., in hand as a (giant, fairly heavy) tablet...
 
When the 17" PowerBook and then the 20" lampshade iMac came out in 2003, we made jokes about a 20" PowerBook.

Now here we are... or not yet actually... A 20" MacBook Pro in 2027? I'm not convinced, but it would be interesting. It should be noted that Apple has a lot of designs that never make it to market, the most obvious one being the cellular MacBook Pro that actually made it into the wild (but not to market).

Coincidentally just yesterday I happened to see a dual-screen Windows laptop at Tim Hortons. From afar I thought it was a fold-out screen as it was twice the height of a normal screen which I thought was hinged in the middle, but turned out it was just a third party screen clamped onto the top of the laptop screen, and I believe connected via USB.

Anyhow, back when I used to travel for business, I would take BOTH my 12" MacBook and my 10.5" iPad Pro, and then use the iPad Pro as a second screen with Sidecar for Excel, PowerPoint, and Keynote. But that's because my screen was only 12". 12" was actually fine for lighter business usage, but for heavier business usage, the added iPad Pro screen was helpful. That might still be a great solution for some people going forward, so I wonder how tiny a portion of the market such a 20" behemoth would be aimed at.



It depends if it's a true foldable screen or just two screens with a hinge.
It could be great for digital nomads or regular travelers. Used with on screen keyboard during travel. Used full 20" as a screen in stand on table in office/coworking space with external keyboard.
 
Common? Do you speaka de engrish? Also, I'm not sure what device you're posting a picture of there, but it certainly isn't the Lenovo X1 16 Fold.

If you're curious of the state of foldables and what can be done with the form factor currently (to say nothing of what Apple might be doing with a release 3 years from now) this is a decent review https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/298445/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-fold-16-review
Thanks for the link to the review. It further supports my point:

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Thanks for the link to the review. It further supports my point:

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What point lol
Everyone knows it's not a single unit (duh). It's a new form factor. The Spectre shows HP's take on how it should work, using a kickstand a la Surface intead of a stand - of course that misses out on the Fold's ability to go portrait. As I said, it will be interesting to see Apple's take on such a form factor.
 
not sure about that - the problem with a laptop is the bad working position.
So to work stationary a separate screen with keyboard is way to go.

If you are on the go - yes a bigger screen would be nicer, but it might not make such a big
difference.
I went down from 16 to 14 inch and am quite happy, as I rarely use the laptop intensively
on the go.

I'm not aiming an iPad to be a laptop. iPad excels in other areas like drawing. a bigger screen you can take around certainly makes sense.
 
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