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Kuo: Apple to Cancel or Postpone 2024 iPhone SE 4
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Apple will cancel or postpone mass production for the planned 2024 iPhone SE 4, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said today in a series of tweets. Kuo said that he believes Apple will delay or scrap the device due to consistent lower than expected shipments of middle tier and lower-end smartphones like the iPhone SE 3, the iPhone 13 mini, and the iPhone 14 Plus.
Apple seems to be missing the forest for the tree here. The SE3 , mini's, and Plus are priced wrong . That is major contributing factor to why they don't sell well. Two things tend to happen.
First, the nominal iPhone and/or iPhone Pro get a higher percentage of spiffs thrown at them by third party sellers. How much that is Apple not funding the spiff or retailers picking their own skew probably varies , but fundamentally wrong not to factor that in.
Second, the 13 mini and 14 Plus falling into the same boat is quite demonstrative that the spin that "nobody wants smaller SE , mini sized phones" has major holes in it. Here is a bigger screen model that isn't selling either. So maybe , just maybe, it isn't the screen size that is the major impediment here. Apple has a value proposition perception problem with end users.
One rumor had the SE 4 as being a 'warmed over' XR. Apple is largely picking because it is mostly 'old and paid for' components more so than a purposefully designed affordable phone. The mini was a new design but tried to pack as much power as nominal phone into an enclosure with a smaller battery. Shocker ... folks don't want a phone with shorter battery life. iPhone 13 mini $599 ... iPhone 12 $599. Shocker... some folks get confused or distracted.
I say use the 13 mini form factor. Put on a cheaper display. Only have 1 camera on the back and sell it for $300. Use a great form factor, good battery life, with an affordable price and capture that market. Me - 12 mini, wife 13 mini, daughter 13 mini, mom 13 mini. We were creative with gift cards and promos to drop the price. We all love them and all upgraded from original SE's. I'd upgrade more frequently if what I describe were the new SE.
Just continue putting a new chip in the current iPhone SE chassis.
Visiting an Apple Store confirms that some customers still want a home button.
Visiting an Apple Store confirms that some customers still want a home button.
So instead of a smallish phone a massive one? :/
I really hope that eventually, if they move away from the current chassis, that the SE inherits the mini form factor if they arent going to make another mini, those of us who prefer small phones are losing options
My brother ended up getting the iPhone SE 3 I bought for my Mom but she had passed before she got the device for her birthday. He is quite happy with it coming from an iPhone 7. Apple is making a mistake here because they need to have an affordable device thats competitive and also a gateway to their various services. Make it, but just keep production low.
Seriously, apple just need to stop being so greedy. Support standard is already from Apple Care already because of cutting cost. And still tries to overprice their products.
Really glad I upgraded my 7 to a current SE. I needed dual SIM for my US and Czech numbers and use my phone to make phone calls. I don't need a phone that is the size of a brick.
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iphone 5 was the best size ever. I miss it.
There isn’t much margin on these lower end devices. Let Android manufacturers have that market while staying focused on the higher premium $1000+ devices. Apple customers have shown they will pay for the higher end devices so catering to the entry level doesn’t make a lot of sense.
The main advantage of the iPhone SE so far was that it did not have a notch. That is such a huge advantage that I would even prefer an iPhone SE, if the iPhone 14 Pro Max also was available for $429.
Looks like the new iPhone SE will be delayed. Apple could also reduce the price of older iPhones and bring it close to SE pricing
maybe I’m the only one who feels like there are too many apple products but there only needs to be 3 iPhones. Small, Normal, and Large. No pro / non-pro, no SE, no low cost option, no maximum ultra option. Just the same high end iPhone in 3 sizes.
SE prices going up would be bad for sales. Non-Pro iPhones are already underselling by Apple's standards.
Apple: There's a recession coming, which means that many people will be financially strapped next year.
Also Apple: Well, we'd better not sell them a phone they can afford.
Me: Fine, then, I'll keep using my iPhone 8.
Also Apple: Well, we'd better not sell them a phone they can afford.
Me: Fine, then, I'll keep using my iPhone 8.
The iPhone SE while cheap is still priced too expensive. It's basically an iPod touch with talk/text functionality.
Failure for these models isn’t that hard to explain. The SE 3 features an ancient design in tech terms that goes back to the iPhone 6. The 13 mini has a small screen. The 14 plus is not a cheap device but features the same SoC as an iPhone 13.
People want cheap big iPhones. An SE in XR form factor would do great given it has an SE price.
And not just prefer but actually need a smaller phone. Many people can't do the finger gymnastics required to use the "medium" and "just call it a tablet, it's a tablet" sized phones not to mention having a pocket big enough to carry it.
When a phone is big enough to require two hands I may as well use my iPad instead.
Reading this on my 5 year old iPhone 8, was hoping an SE model would be coming around that time. Might look at a 13 mini next year.
A family member just upgraded from the SE2 to the 14. Her reasoning: The SE was too small.
It's too small for me too. It's OK as backup to still do the Apple stuff, but would never use it as a Primary. I wouldn't mind Mini size or maybe even still SE Chassis but with full screen and touch on power. But I don't think the latter would help since it would be no wider
This is the saddest piece of news in while, like Apple trying to get rid of some users.
They should just recycle the 8 and 8 plus as SE and SE plus refreshing every 2 to 3 years without trying to get fancy. Even keep the colors the same as the 8 and 8 plus. Current SE design with black front on white phone is ugly.
But there is no way Apple will listen to me. Which means that no matter how much I hate it, my next phone will be an Android, if Apple discontinues selling the current SE.
They should just recycle the 8 and 8 plus as SE and SE plus refreshing every 2 to 3 years without trying to get fancy. Even keep the colors the same as the 8 and 8 plus. Current SE design with black front on white phone is ugly.
But there is no way Apple will listen to me. Which means that no matter how much I hate it, my next phone will be an Android, if Apple discontinues selling the current SE.
Mac Mini and iPad mini would beg to differ
Even Tim Cook admits that not all customers want to pay $1000+ for phone. The $500-900 is super important.
Just relabel any retired mainline phone as the next SE. Like the 13 Mini. No need for fancy investments. Just keep the price low. It feels like the iPhone is on the way up to be made more costly maybe this is why in-house competitors are not welcome anymore? Apple needs some affordable offer for younger people otherwise it will be the parent's phone only.