It's the latest 5G chip for half the price. Just without the fancy stuff. Nobody needs a camera to do "Hollywood movies" on an iPhone. It's just not for the poser crowd but bang for the buck.
You are basing your assumption on incorrect information. An two or three year old iPhone is not produced now. It was produced two or three years ago. All older models that are still available are overstock.an older iPhone (which has a higher manufacturing cost, but has to be sold at a discounted price
It’s why if I was to get a phone this year the 13 is the better value. I don’t see enough of an upgrade to get a 14, especially when they cheaped out and used last years chip in it. In years past even S year upgrades still had a new chip.I don't think it's a surprise that the SE 3 underperformed. It didn't improve on the SE 2 in any meaningful way and Apple still increased the price by $30. They could get away with recycling 2017 hardware once but doing it a second time and then asking for even more money is a slap in the face to customers.
I think Apple anticipated that they could increase sales by expanding the iPhone lineup, but what is actually happening is that they're selling the same number of phones across more models. The problem with that is that it costs more in R&D and manufacturing to create 4-5 new iPhones each year, compared to 2014-2016 when they only made two phones.
Apple either needs to adjust its expectations or it needs to simplify the iPhone lineup. The current lineup makes sense on paper: regular or Pro, in two sizes each. But it falls apart because only the Pro models get meaningful updates while the mainstream iPhone gets last year's leftovers. It doesn't make sense to spend $799 on a recycled iPhone 13 when you can buy the actual iPhone 13 for $699. By that point, the gap between the 13 and the 14 Pro is wide enough that it doesn't work as well for selling you up the price ladder.
Both minis had the same stats as the regular iPhone, but smaller batteries - which was a bigger problem with the 12 mini.It’s why if I was to get a phone this year the 13 is the better value. I don’t see enough of an upgrade to get a 14, especially when they cheaped out and used last years chip in it. In years past even S year upgrades still had a new chip.
They’re getting too carried away with this Pro and regular nonsense. They need to go back to their roots and simplify. One set of chips, cameras etc. They’d do better if they did a small medium large format. From what I understand the mini didn’t do as well because it wasn’t the same as the normal size. Didn’t they mess with the camera on it? I can’t remember but I think they changed some stuff and that affected sales. So make all form factors the same stats.
Same. The only thing holding me back from upgrading is Touch ID. Being able to be at the home screen or Apple pay before the phone is even out of my pocket is a daily pro that I'm not willing to give up.I would have bought the 13mini if it had Touch ID. Since it doesn't I went SE3 and never regretted it.
Now late MBAirs have those fingerprint readers as well. I wonder why apple ever abandoned them on phones? They are so useful when mask wearing in public places.
If data suggests Apple is selling mostly Pro/Pro Max’s, then they are likely to drop lower priced phones.Higher costs and higher selling prices is not where the SE line should go
The iPad mini is a great size. Regular iPad is too big to be portable IMO. May as well go 12.9”.Mac mini
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The iPad (2021) and iPad mini were the world's best-selling tablets in Q1
The iPad mini is a lot more popular than the iPhone mini, to say the least.www.phonearena.com
Agreed. Streamline it all like Jobs did in the late 90’s.Apple needs to simplify their lineup. It’s so bloated these days with 8 models. Do a Pro and Pro Max, a standard and mini, and the budget option can be the previous year’s mini. Reduces complexity, makes it easier for consumers to pick a phone, and still hits a wide variety of price points and sizes.
Wasn't this the whole reason the iPhone 5c got created? The iPhone 5 proved too expensive to sell as a cheaper iPhone alongside the 5s, hence the 5c (which was also cheaper to manufacture). I don't think Apple produces so many surplus iPhones that they would still be unsold 2-3 years from today. Tim Cook, being the logistics whiz that he is, would never allow it.You are basing your assumption on incorrect information. An two or three year old iPhone is not produced now. It was produced two or three years ago. All older models that are still available are overstock.
I have an original SE for that.Probably going to grab a 13 Mini to replace my iPod touch then.
The SE is likewise stuck on iOS 15 and wouldn’t be an upgrade for me.I have an original SE for that.
The existing customers, sure. But Apple doesn't have the largest market share to Android by far and many more customers that pay you for something with a small margin is better than losing those customers to the competition. Apple has services, the App Store, tv+, Apple Pay commissions, really so much to bank on after you join the ecosystem. And if someone is happy with what they got, and they will be because Apple can deliver quality hardware that lasts, then more often than not next time around they're gonna shell out more for a more expensive device from the same brand or at least remain a customer if their last purchase lasted them a long time. After all, the people going for the lower end mostly look at value. And currently Apple's offerings have a major value proposition problem outside of the high-end, where everything else is priced similarlyThere isn’t much margin on these lower end devices. Let Android manufacturers have that market while staying focused on the higher premium $1000+ devices. Apple customers have shown they will pay for the higher end devices so catering to the entry level doesn’t make a lot of sense.
What did you use 1993-1995? Gaps in the resume….Ideally I think Apple should just continue iterating on the existing iPhone SE with Touch ID. It's an excellent low end phone popular with less "technical" people. Keep improving the guts; keep the form factor and display the same.
LOL, those were my DOS/Windows days. Nobody cares about those here.What did you use 1993-1995? Gaps in the resume….
This makes the iPhone 12 mini / iPhone 13 mini the best candidate to take the next iPhone SE spot.
Does Apple have the courage to do it though?