Noooo. That doesn’t align with tech blog looking for clicks and people looking for Reddit thumb ups. Less than 1%…unacceptable.
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Kuo: Apple Vision Pro on Track to Launch in More Countries Before WWDC in June
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Apple did drop the price of the original iPhone by 1/3 just a few months after it launched.
I don't expect the same thing to happen with AVP, but they clearly have done it before.
More likely, Apple will make future Vision models more affordable. Apple's first laptop, the PowerBook, had a starting price of $2500 (over $5000 in today's dollars) in 1992. An entry level laptop from Apple today would cost $1000, or 1/5 the price.
There will be a Vision 2 with better specs and new features that will cost less than today's Vision Pro.
Macrumors was reporting a few weeks ago that Vision Pro sold upwards of 200,000 in the first few days. Kuo's own estimates were in the 160k to 180k range
So it appears Apple is expected to sell between 0 and 90,000 more in the remainder of this year - is that including the new countries that are to be added?
So it appears Apple is expected to sell between 0 and 90,000 more in the remainder of this year - is that including the new countries that are to be added?
My kids have each tried the Dinosaur Encounter, but other than that they don't get to use the AVP.
They fight over whose turn is next on the Quest 3. They love playing Gorilla Tag, and AVP doesn't have anything like that.
The Quest 3 holds little allure for me since I got AVP, but for people who want the things Q3 can do that AVP can't yet, then the Meta product is a bargain.
I compared the spec of a MBP that is priced similar to the base AVP with it's equivalent in the Irish store and it came to about €4,350. Plus inserts/spare battery/case etc, so you could easily go north of €5,000 on it.
Are VR developers not porting their games from Meta to AVP? I think AVP will be like the first iPhone. Games and content will be trickling month by month. YTbrs will just do reviews on the latest content and slowly alter their recommendation. MQ3 is still cheaper but if the premium experience is desired, then AVP. Which one can you afford? $20-30k car or $70k+ luxury/sports cars?
I believe this is referring to the current return rate now. It's probably not taking the initial two weeks into account, when returns were supposedly higher then.
You’re comparing an unreleased product, to one that just came out? And who is downplaying the Apple Car?
Really? You want the future to be like ready player one??
Like most tech these days, for every good there seems to be a bad (or potential for downright evil)… computers, smartphones, GPS, facial recognition, social media, etc. have made people more dependent on tech for basic tasks, anxious, depressed, unable to think critically, completely give up their rights to privacy, etc.
Even now, kids are having difficulty dealing with reality. VR could ruin the next generation.
Real talk: is anyone keeping track of all these “analysts’” claims?
I recall Kuo being wrong on so many occasions, I would like to know what his actual track record is
I recall Kuo being wrong on so many occasions, I would like to know what his actual track record is
Great point! I have friends in Brazil and Mexico. The taxes are so high they could never get one of these.
It launched this month and you can still go and get one in a store today. People said it was gonna get sold out within minutes for the whole year. It doesn't look so good sadly. I hope they quickly launch a second gen with the most criticized things fixed so it becomes more popular.
They can’t port those games that use controllers. Avp operates in a permanent no boundaries mode. It simply isn’t made for most vr games.
Avp is spatial computing, videos. Sit and don’t move much.
even if you are correct, and frankly I suspect he has better sources than most of us, thats still FAR LESS than what people have been crowing in the threads. But somehow they will spin this a a bad thing lol
what do you base any of this on? why would he be reporting now instead of overall? a lot of naysayers claimed otherwise but other than that, not much real data.
Agreed. There’s no way that fewer than one person out of every 100 returned the Vision Pro. That number is being pulled from nowhere.
Contrary to what Apple say, Vision Pro isn't "the future" for a lot of people. Sure, they sold a few hundred thousand, and they may well sell a few hundred thousand more, but you only have to look at what the majority of unbothered people say about the device to know it's not going to be adopted en masse. Not now, and possibly never if other VR headsets are anything to go by.
This isn't a hate speech, and nor do I want Apple to fail, but devices like these just aren't for everyone.
It just isn't as convenient as tradition computing, and while some have found it to be a wonderful addition or even replacement for other devices, many don't want to work using a headset.
This isn't a hate speech, and nor do I want Apple to fail, but devices like these just aren't for everyone.
It just isn't as convenient as tradition computing, and while some have found it to be a wonderful addition or even replacement for other devices, many don't want to work using a headset.
Many people didn't want to use motorised horse carriages, photon beams to cook their food or cloud services to hold their personal information where they couldn't control it....but here we are. Stranger things have happened.
$2k for a device that won't be utilized much is a hard sell.
Let's face it - it's no macbook pro - - it's not even an ipad.
It will get there. I believe it will. But say it with me
FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!
From the 9to5Mac article, which has more context:
Maybe I'm just reading too much into the wording that these articles are using. When I read it, I didn't interpret it as the total return rate. I took it as the return rate as of recently, or after the initial 14-day window. But you're right, we don't know for sure what time period he's talking about.
Also, those buying it today are less likely to return since they know what they are buying and why, hence a lower return rate now...which will also drive down the total return rate as more people buy and keep them.
Well if we were 6 months down the line I would be more inclined to agree, but I guess my point is if we discount the first 2 weeks, we are um, are talking at most 12 days of data (and given the reality of sources, probably less). I doubt Kuo has that kind of granularity in his sources to distinguish the first 14 days from the last 12. But I could be wrong. The thing that is clear that the rate is not the 20 to 50 % people here were claiming as some sort of 'victory' on their predictions of failure.