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That's a fair comment. I don't personally care for video calls.


That's a pathetic comment. I would like something better than passcode authentication. I want device security and in-app security. To even suggest that how things are is how they will always be is ridiculous.

I mean - the AW needs your passcode only once when you put it on. It’s not like the iPhone requiring 50 unlocks per day... And for the past 4 years, this has been an acceptable standard of security. You can enter your password at 9AM, not touch your watch for the day while you’re working, and make a purchase at 9PM with no further authentication required. Isn’t it crazy? Has been that way for a while.

If anything, I’d give the AW some sort of wrist touch ID. Seems more efficient than having to look at it directly.
 
You can enter your password at 9AM, not touch your watch for the day while you’re working, and make a purchase at 9PM with no further authentication required. Isn’t it crazy? Has been that way for a while.
Heck, if you have it set so the watch unlocks when you authenticate on your iPhone, you don't need to enter your password ever. Put on watch, touch or look at phone, done.
 
No, no, the next next next one is the one to get.
The one to get would be the one that makes people say hey, is that a redesigned Apple Watch? I need to get that.
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Sounds like a pointless update. How fast does the Wi-Fi on your watch need to be? Tim will have to throw in at least one feature for the advertising department to do something with.
Short of a redesign, what feature/change could work for them? FaceTime?
 
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Imagine what would happen if Apple introduced the next Apple Watch Series 6 with a round display and bezel, 7 colors (black, space gray, silver in aluminum, polished silver, rose gold, gold in stainless steel, and titanium, options for a smart rotating bezel, additional bands, 48 hour battery life, and sleep monitoring in addition to same updates on the regular rectangular Watch?

All those naysayers about how unattractive the Apple Watch was would have to find something else to complain about.
 
Heck, if you have it set so the watch unlocks when you authenticate on your iPhone, you don't need to enter your password ever. Put on watch, touch or look at phone, done.
The same goes, once the AW is unlocked, for the Mac. If you set "unlock with AW" on your Mac you don't even need to enter the password for the Mac, not even TouchID. So, once you authenticated with FaceID on your iPhone, the rest will take care of itself.
 
No matter how water resistant it gets, I always feel weird bringing a $350+ electronic device in the pool/water :oops:

I’ve had the Series 0, 2, and now 4, and have always brought them into the shower or pool with me. This past weekend I went snorkeling with my series 4 in the ocean, going as deep as 15 feet. I even cliff jumped (maybe 20 feet) over the weekend, and many other times, and it’s always been fine.
 
Imagine what would happen if Apple introduced the next Apple Watch Series 6 with a round display and bezel, 7 colors (black, space gray, silver in aluminum, polished silver, rose gold, gold in stainless steel, and titanium, options for a smart rotating bezel, additional bands, 48 hour battery life, and sleep monitoring in addition to same updates on the regular rectangular Watch?

All those naysayers about how unattractive the Apple Watch was would have to find something else to complain about.
I am fairly confident they will find something. Personally I like the square form of the AppleWatch a lot and would never change that.
 
My personal points of possible improvement for the current Watch are:
- screen bezels: there is no need for bezels on a watch, while you need them on a phone;
- cellular roaming: its absence makes the cellular Watch near worthless to many people in Europe, where borders are pretty close to each other;
- more battery life on cellular: the next step in the Watch's evolution should be the ability of leaving the iPhone at home for a whole day;
- sleep tracking + blood glucose meter: it's time to go full health.

I think the improved water resistance will save some Watches from a horrible death, but how many really?
The faster Wi-Fi will be just that, faster Wi-Fi. I can't see the reasoning behind that.
 
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Saw a ss s4 for 399 over weekend. Still passed on it. But it’s remarkable how fast these depreciate. Think I’ll be hanging on to s3 a few more years and look at s6 when they go on sale.
 
- cellular roaming: its absence makes the cellular Watch near worthless to many people in Europe, where borders are pretty close to each other;
- more battery life on cellular: the next step in the Watch's evolution should be the ability of leaving the iPhone at home for a whole day;
- sleep tracking + blood glucose meter: it's time to go full health.
Not a trace of hyperbole here: 'near-worthless' and adding first-party sleep tracking and glucose metering and voila, we have 'full health'.
 
Not a trace of hyperbole here: 'near-worthless' and adding first-party sleep tracking and glucose metering and voila, we have 'full health'.
Well, I live in Switzerland. Therefore, as nearly every other Swiss citizen, I live near a border. I'm roaming on german and austrian networks half of the time on my iPhone. The LTE function would therefore be more attractive if it was able to roam, since the phone it's paired to already can. (EDIT: as I said, "near").
About the "full health", I think it would be a step in the right direction, since it appears to be one of the main focuses behind the whole product. Faster WiFi is hardly as useful.
 
Well, I live in Switzerland. Therefore, as nearly every other Swiss citizen, I live near a border. I'm roaming on german and austrian networks half of the time on my iPhone. The LTE function would therefore be more attractive if it was able to roam, since the phone it's paired to already can. (EDIT: as I said, "near").
About the "full health", I think it would be a step in the right direction, since it appears to be one of the main focuses behind the whole product. Faster WiFi is hardly as useful.
Well, I also live in Switzerland and it's quite rare that one has to use a foreign carrier's signal within Switzerland. If you frequently cross the border, then it's a bit different but if you just cross the border for shopping, you can still get a signal from the Swiss carriers. And a lot of cell phone plans in Switzerland still have some roaming limits anyway. There is a difference between being within reach of foreign carriers' networks and having to use them.

But if you look at the whole population of Europe, the vast majority don't live near borders nor do they cross borders frequently, only a minority does. Thus for the majority in Europe, the roaming limitations of the Apple Watch don't make it 'near-worthless'. I don't have any roaming 'plan' with my iPhone, and that doesn't make my iPhone 'near-worthless' in Europe.
 
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Well, I also live in Switzerland and it's quite rare that one has to use a foreign carrier's signal within Switzerland. If you frequently cross the border, then it's a bit different but if you just cross the border for shopping, you can still get a signal from the Swiss carriers. And a lot of cell phone plans in Switzerland still have some roaming limits anyway. There is a difference between being within reach of foreign carriers' networks and having to use them.

But if you look at the whole population of Europe, the vast majority don't live near borders nor do they cross borders frequently, only a minority does. Thus for the majority in Europe, the roaming limitations of the Apple Watch don't make it 'near-worthless'. I don't have any roaming 'plan' with my iPhone, and that doesn't make my iPhone 'near-worthless' in Europe.
Then I guess that to some people the missing roaming capability of the Watch is an issue. To me, it is. I'm sure I'm not the only traveler around here. I think those who do "high velocity water activities" and those who need faster WiFi connectivity are a minority in comparison. Are we in agreement?

PS: I do not shop abroad. Just getting a stable Sunrise/Swisscom/Salt signal in the regions north of Basel, around Schaffhausen and in the Rheintal is a pain in the arse. That is why I have unlimited roaming (voice and data) on my plan.
 
They need a major redesign. 5 generations and no real change? come on apple!

How do you major redesign a watch? make it a bubble, octagon? what? its a watch.
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Improved Water Resistance?? This will be scuba diving resistance now?


Really? 50 meters..164'......That's beyond the depth of most scuba divers.
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Yes but your Rolex looks good...

Looks like a watch.
 
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I still want full Dick Tracy mode. Facetime camera please.

FaceTime on a 40/44 MM display? Seems One could easily just revert to the iPhone versus using a smart watch that doesn’t provide much functionality for a camera on the Apple Watch. In the same aspect, I feel the other smart watch competitors would have already added something like this with a camera, if it was absolutely a feature that _would_ be a selling point, in which case, I don’t believe it would be at all.
 
We need an Apple Watch upgrade program like the iPhone has. :)
Then don't do yearly upgrades....it's really not needed.....except for status.
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You are correct. Recreational compressed air scuba diving limited to 40m, and diving deeper than 12m requires incremental levels of advanced training and certification.

Nevertheless, dive watches are rated at least 200-300m. Some dive watches rated >1000m. For people that actually dive with them AND rely on them to track critical time at depth to avoid decompression sickness, a massive depth rating safety factor becomes more understandable.

But, AW is not marketed as a dive watch, as of now anyway.

That's what I thought. >1000 meters? Damn, I THINK that's deeper than most military submarines can go.
 
Then don't do yearly upgrades....it's really not needed.....except for status.

Or maybe let people decide on their own what to buy? I have no regrets upgrading from an S4 and the last thing I care about is status. The Always on Display is great.
 
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