There it is. The more technology you throw at people the more they want to go in the other direction and re-discover natural interaction, real life, and nature.
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Kuo: Apple's Mixed-Reality Headset Likely to Debut at Spring Media Event or WWDC
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There it is. The more technology you throw at people the more they want to go in the other direction and re-discover natural interaction, real life, and nature.
We were just talking about this in a class today. Especially the effect of social media on people's choices in daily life... it's sad.
These things were never intended to replace normal interaction, that's what some people don't get.
These things were never intended to replace normal interaction, that's what some people don't get.
The best way to miniaturize is just to let the iPhone or Mac do all the processing work and let the glasses only do the sensing and visuals.
AR is just so hard to pull off without a buggy experience though. Look at other conversations and experiences about it. Unless we stay quite still those AR glasses require constant re-calibration to maintain position and those sensors are super hard to make to miniaturize. That's why HoloLens (and the mock up design above) was so large and the users move like they are a 100 year old man walking in slow motion.
I can't imagine how hard that would be if we walked around with the glasses. The environment would have to be scanned and re-calibrated every minute.
Just thought I’d leave this here. From early in 2022
www.zdnet.com
“Two recently filed trademarks for 'RealityOS' point to Apple possibly announcing its long-rumored AR/VR headset at its Worldwide Developer Conference (WWDC) 2022”
Yeah man totally!
WWDC 2022: Apple's top-secret AR/VR headset could make a surprise appearance
Recently filed RealityOS trademarks suggest Apple could unveil details about its augment reality (AR) virtual reality (VR) headset next week.
www.zdnet.com
“Two recently filed trademarks for 'RealityOS' point to Apple possibly announcing its long-rumored AR/VR headset at its Worldwide Developer Conference (WWDC) 2022”
Yeah man totally!
This is a foot in the door device. As these VR/AR devices evolve over the years they will replace phones and most computing devices. Apple understands this and knows if they don’t lead in this, they will be replaced. Few thought the iPhone or Apple Watch would be anything more than niche products. Apple learned their own lesson.
I don't wear a watch, or visit the forum for the Apple Watch. Do those threads get posts about how stupid watches are in every thread? I don't really know, because I don't visit threads for products I'm totally disinterested in.
Edit: And why did you bold once? Is your opinion supposed to have more relevance because you've used it fewer times?
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but it concerns me sometimes how the evolution of technology seems to increasingly drive the devolution of "real" social interaction, reinforcing isolation.
No it won't. You can't replace all those devices and there will never be enough demand to wear a headset that people will give up computers and smartphones.
The industry also won't want to damage display panel sales and replace them with an inferior isolated experience. If what you say above was true, display panel manufacturing would be severely reduced and the price for displays would become many many times higher to compensate for the losses.
A VR fanatic will show up soon who typically 💩posts wild theories and will likely derail the thread so I'll grab popcorn. Edit: The VR fanatics are attacking already.
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I just want it to come out so we can stop hearing rumors about it that seem to go on forever. This is iPhone all over again.
🤣 KuoRumors at it again. This guy is never right but the site eats up every "note". 😂
Meh.
People aren’t going to walk around wearing big-ass goggles on their face. Apple typically enters these markets after they’ve matured a bit and the time is right to add something new, with a few amazing features, that is easy to use because they being several new pieces of tech, incredible industrial design, and groundbreaking software together.
The time is wrong. Apple wants mass-market and expensive, giant goggles for nerds is not that. If it’s as a dev kit for the 2024 release that looks more like regular glasses and the processing is done on the iPhone wirelessly to make that tech work now instead of years from now, then that makes more sense.
People aren’t going to walk around wearing big-ass goggles on their face. Apple typically enters these markets after they’ve matured a bit and the time is right to add something new, with a few amazing features, that is easy to use because they being several new pieces of tech, incredible industrial design, and groundbreaking software together.
The time is wrong. Apple wants mass-market and expensive, giant goggles for nerds is not that. If it’s as a dev kit for the 2024 release that looks more like regular glasses and the processing is done on the iPhone wirelessly to make that tech work now instead of years from now, then that makes more sense.
To be fair this is not exactly a fair comparison. You should try it again. And Apple’s is going to be to the competition what the iPhone was to the competition. Maybe not overwhelmingly better at first, but far better than you expect and, if history is any guide, even better over the next few years.
The time was just barely right for the iPhone. Mobile internet barely existed. Software development for mobile platforms was in its infancy. This is not going to be something people wear full time, Tim Cook has already said as much. Just give it a chance. I’m not buying the first generation $3k set either (except maybe as an unopened investment...) but given time I think it has a chance.
This ongoing story reminds me of the rumors of IBM or Motorola working on a Power CPU for Apple that would finally compete with Intel. It was continuous wish fulfillment that never came to fruition.
He is actually more right than most. I agree with the general sentiment that there’s always an excuse for the unannounced thing he rumored was delayed. But he does actually have a decent track record compared to most, especially a commonly cited source that rhymes with saucer…
Ok fair. 2015 was a long time ago, and technology has certainly advanced. All I'm saying is that I'm just not interested in a product like this. What use cases does it have in the real world? Are people going to be bringing these things to work/school like they do with iPhones and MacBooks? I dont think so.
Latest Ming Update:
Sometime in 2023,..I think,..most likely before December,..should be first or second half of 2023,..mostly between Jan-Dec 2023, will be at one of 3 keynotes this year.
All bases now covered, thanks Ming!
Sometime in 2023,..I think,..most likely before December,..should be first or second half of 2023,..mostly between Jan-Dec 2023, will be at one of 3 keynotes this year.
All bases now covered, thanks Ming!
I like to think he already has articles pre written out for the entire year so when the first prediction passes and nothing happens, just switch to the new one with a new random guess. Rinse and repeat
None of the other consumer VR/AR headsets are made for walking around in. What makes people think this is a design goal for the first Apple headset?
There have been a couple of consumer smart glasses devices that are made to wear while walking around, but those either don't have a display, or only have a tiny HUD in the corner of your vision, which I would not consider to be AR.
This right here is the consequence of MacRumors insisting on repeatedly posting a made up "rendering" of what is at best, a representation of a development prototype that some low level Apple employee saw. This is borderline disinformation.
If we know anything about Apple, nobody outside of senior VPs and the industrial design team have seen the finished product of this major new category for Apple. This is the company that gave its own employees an iPhone sealed in a metal box and an Apple Watch disguised as an iPod nano in a case:
This is doubly relevant because we know with near certainty that Apple is going to launch these glasses in two stages like they did the iPhone and Apple Watch: a product reveal teaser at WWDC or a dedicated event, inviting developers to begin producing apps and then months later, a full unveiling ahead of pre-orders. We know that the glasses aren't in production yet (it's impossible to contain thousands of assembly workers), which makes it near impossible that anyone outside of Tim Cook's inner circle will be able to leak the finished device.
First generation devices are fairly easy to keep secret. Just don't show anyone outside of those who need to know what the finished product is going to look like. It gets much harder when each update has to be produced and manufactured on an annual cycle and manufacturing drawings, molds and even components get out. As a new category, this is the former.
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That's fair.
I hope you're right and they are traditional-looking glasses rather than ski goggles or half-helmet.
I guess we'll find out in 3 months, or maybe 6 months, or by the end of the year, or maybe next year...
You can't make a "mixed reality" headset that looks like traditional glasses with today's technology. You can make smartglasses, but that's more like the equivalent of a smartwatch, but for your face.That's fair.
I hope you're right and they are traditional-looking glasses rather than ski goggles or half-helmet.
I guess we'll find out in 3 months, or maybe 6 months, or by the end of the year, or maybe next year...
Mr Giant Paragraphs and his inhuman impractical impossible vision of the VR future will no doubt be hitting this thread hard 😂