Kuo: iPad Pro With Rear 3D Sensing and 'iPhone SE 2' on Track to Launch in First Half of 2020

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Apple plans to release new iPad Pro models with rear 3D sensing in the first half of 2020, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.


In a research note with TF International Securities, seen by MacRumors, Kuo said the iPad Pro models will gain 3D sensing through the rear-facing camera system. Apple is expected to use a time-of-flight system, which measures the time that it takes for light to bounce off of objects in a room to generate a 3D map.

The timeframe lines up with a recent report from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, who also said Apple plans to release iPad Pro models with rear 3D sensing as early as the first half of 2020. Gurman expects the iPad Pro models to feature dual rear cameras, up from a single lens, along with a new augmented reality sensor.

Kuo also reiterated that Apple plans to release a so-called "iPhone SE 2" in the first half of 2020 too. He has previously said the device will be released by the end of the first quarter with similar features as the iPhone 8, including a 4.7-inch display and Touch ID, but with a faster A13 chip and 3GB of RAM.

The low-cost iPhone will likely start around $399 with 64GB of storage, and come in Space Gray, Silver, and Red, according to Kuo.

Kuo has made both the iPad Pro and low-cost iPhone predictions in the past, so this really only serves as an update that the plans are still on track for early next year. Apple often holds a media event in March, and it is certainly possible the new iPad Pro and low-cost iPhone could be announced then.

It is worth noting that Kuo is likely just referring to the device as the "iPhone SE 2" as an easy way to refer to Apple working on a new low-cost iPhone. With its rumored 4.7-inch display, the device would certainly not resemble the original iPhone SE in terms of size, so it could end up having a different name.

Article Link: Kuo: iPad Pro With Rear 3D Sensing and 'iPhone SE 2' on Track to Launch in First Half of 2020
 
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Martius

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... and MBP 14" ? ;)

Recently I was thinking about the rumored 2020 5.4 inch iPhone. I think that won't be an iPhone Pro, but a smaller version of iPhone 11.

5.4 + 6.1 iPhone 12
5.8 + 6.5 iPhone 12 Pro

It makes sense for me, 0.7 inch difference between both sizes. I think the 5.4 will be the next real SE.
 
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Porco

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Calling this iPhone 8 v2 the 'iPhone SE' would be horrible and I hope Apple don't do it.

Having said that, given his propensity to assume product names I do think it would be funny if Apple called the other device in the story the 'iPad Kuo' :D
 

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What might we imagine 3D sensing being used for besides better photo quality and AR applications?

What other everyday or specialized features might be possible with the right software?
 

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We all know "SE" represents that 4" phone. This is like the time Apple said, "we killed the iPod mini and replaced it with this", when they killed nothing, because products are not alive. What they really did is just update a music player to make it thinner. This rumor is about iPhone 8 with updated A13 chip. Now, where in the hell is my small full-screen phone.
 

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We all know "SE" represents that 4" phone. This is like the time Apple said, "we killed the iPod mini and replaced it with this", when they killed nothing, because products are not alive. What they really did is just update a music player to make it thinner. This rumor is about iPhone 8 with updated A13 chip. Now, where in the hell is my small full-screen phone.
Ya'll care way too much about names.
 

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Calling this iPhone 8 v2 the 'iPhone SE' would be horrible and I hope Apple don't do it.
I'm preferential to 'iPhone Air' or (I know they won't do it but) iPhone 9. I think the 8 line is (from a marketing perspective) obsolete at this point and too old to associate with a new product in Apple's pipeline.

But who knows, at this point it seems like Apple is just cutting up a bunch of buzzwords and numbers (Max! Rad! Tubular!), throwing them into a hat and picking their names at random.
 
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dgdosen

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Given the risks you hear about companies monitoring cameras and mics on existing devices, seeing more cameras on the back of iPads for 3D sensing or more powerful mics on laptops seems like there will be a much higher risk of invasions in privacy.

Maybe not Apple, who's currently advertising on this notion, but also for those apps or web sites running on that platform.
 

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More people liked the original iPhone SE because of it's small 4" display, not it's low price.
IMO the SE was about three things: small size, low price, and internals that were very close to the flagship at the time (the 6s). It sounds like this new device will hit two of the three — and arguably, it will sorta hit “small size” also because, although it’s bigger than the SE, it’s smaller than anything else Apple sells.
 

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... and MBP 14" ? ;)

Recently I was thinking about the rumored 2020 5.4 inch iPhone. I think that won't be an iPhone Pro, but a smaller version of iPhone 11.

5.4 + 6.1 iPhone 12
5.8 + 6.5 iPhone 12 Pro

It makes sense for me, 0.7 inch difference between both sizes. I think the 5.4 will be the next real SE.
Agree. This makes the most sense.
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iPhone 11 Air
iPhone 9
 

JPack

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iPhone SE debate: Round 182

Seriously, if Apple had data suggesting a 4" phone would sell, they would make it.

If SE was targeted at small phone users, the SE2 wouldn't be 4.7".

The $399 SE and SE2 will attract plenty of new price-sensitive users to the Apple ecosystem.
 
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BrooksA

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We all know "SE" represents that 4" phone. This is like the time Apple said, "we killed the iPod mini and replaced it with this", when they killed nothing, because products are not alive. What they really did is just update a music player to make it thinner. This rumor is about iPhone 8 with updated A13 chip. Now, where in the hell is my small full-screen phone.
The rumoured iPhone 12 pro with 5.4" screen and square sides like a 4/5/SE is all the phone I have been waiting for since I got an SE on release. Just have to swallow the price by keeping it 4-5 years. Hope it's true.