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Kuo: iPad Pro With Rear 3D Sensing and 'iPhone SE 2' on Track to Launch in First Half of 2020
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They like to throw “plus” on things to suggest something has been added. How about they call it the iPhone minus?
Where did you hear round? I don't have any good info, just what I read on the iphone 12 roundup on this site:
The overall design, though, will resemble the iPhone 4 with a squared-edged stainless steel frame between two pieces of glass. The new iPhone will feature a stainless steel frame, which will replace the current rounded stainless steel frame, and it will continue to use front and back glass for the body of the device.
I never understood a round frame, it just increases the size of the phone compared to the screen when viewed from the front. If people prefer to hold a round phone I suppose it makes sense. My preference would be square but without the sharp edges, fwiw.
On the hardware side definitely yes, Apple seems to listen again to its customers. OS wise another turnaround yet now should follow.
Low cost iPhone would be great. My daughter needs an upgrade from her 6s+ which is showing battery issues now!
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Very unlikely to be called the iPhone 9.
As we are on the iPhone 11 now, even though they skipped 9, if they called it iPhone 9 it would instantly feel like a previous generation, even though its brand new.
They need a completely different product line name, hence the original 'SE'.
Personally, I think they will come up with something completely new......
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Very unlikely to be called the iPhone 9.
As we are on the iPhone 11 now, even though they skipped 9, if they called it iPhone 9 it would instantly feel like a previous generation, even though its brand new.
They need a completely different product line name, hence the original 'SE'.
Personally, I think they will come up with something completely new......
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I'm hoping it can be used to scan a room and create a 3D model of it a bit like the old QuickTime VR stuff but with the ability to move about freely. You could do some cool stuff like a video games where you scan your home in and have zombies shambling around and you can't access some rooms without finding keys or solving puzzles.
It could also be a nice tool for making holiday snaps more interactive, especially if it can capture some background sounds and movement, e.g. seeing and hearing waves crashing on the sea.
by "iPhone 8" SE really means the same boring design we're still seeing in every single iPhone since the 6. So disappointing and so lazy. Do apple not hear the constant feedback that people want a smaller iPhone?
God forbid Tim would invest in new tooling and creating a small size full-screen phone. Just lazy recycling until the bitter end. I miss Steve 
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If the new iPhone IX* had the same form and styling at the existing SE, flush camera aperture and all, I'd be happy to go up a screen size. If they then subsequently increased the iPod Touch to the same size with consequentially better battery life, that would be a double sale for me.
Sadly I suspect we're going to get a Frankenstein's Monster based on whatever bits are left lying around the workshop the morning after the drunken launch party before. And I'd have to get a Bluetooth hands-free kit to replace the wired one I have now :-/
(* IX=9, I don't see why I should be the only one not to come up with a daft name.)
Sadly I suspect we're going to get a Frankenstein's Monster based on whatever bits are left lying around the workshop the morning after the drunken launch party before. And I'd have to get a Bluetooth hands-free kit to replace the wired one I have now :-/
(* IX=9, I don't see why I should be the only one not to come up with a daft name.)
That won't happen, and just in case nobody has explained it to you yet, I'm gonna explain you why this won't be a reality:
1) Utilizing an existing design is cheap. That's why Apple plans to release a low cost iPhone using the iPhone 6/7/8 design. Doing what you are asking for would be expensive. Very expensive, and with 4" I can assure you this wouldn't be a mass product to justify the investment on a whole new production line with new and expensive technologies.
Why would this be that expensive? You may ask. Well, the iPhone X was bigger and had an OLED screen because that was the only way to make an edge to edge display affordable, that's why in order to do the same with LCD Apple had to increase the size to the 6.1". Just look around to other brands aside from Samsung. APPLE has been the only manufacturer with a true edge to edge display smartphone since 2017. It requires a minimum amount of space inside to fold the screen and have the screen controller board on the inside.
It's not that easy to just "make a 4" iPhone SE with the X technology", maybe in your imagination, not for the engineers. And after all the investment, having a niche product at a 1.000$ price tag, it would be a commercial failure.
2) Apple has already planned a smaller device with edge to edge screen, with a 5.4" screen size it will have a substantial size decrease. Yes, this next year's 2020 iPhone 12 will indeed be smaller. It won't be cheap, but as I said, this devices are not cheap to produce.
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8s or 9 doesnt make sense now that 10 and 11 are out, would give an outdated feel to a brand new device . 'SE' on the other hand still makes sense because it's not confined to any number frame.
And SE was as much about price as it was about the size. The budget iPhone doesn't have to be super small nor does 'SE' mean Small Edition, it means Special Edition.
I’ve had multiple iPads since the first generation. The number of times I’ve used one to take a “real” picture is in the low single-digits (like 1 or 2). I can’t imagine a rear-facing 3D sensor would make any difference to my use cases. Do any of you actually use the rear-facing camera on your iPads?
Don't forget usbc, I can't wait to upgrade my phone and personal laptop next year and have all my personal and work devices use the same port for everything (well, almost all, some day Amazon will release a usbc kindle paperwhite I guess, eventually)
Let me quote Kuo, which is where everyone gets their info:
He says the frame surface will be the same as iPhone 4, not the shape.
All I really need from a new iPhone is it not being physically bigger than 6-8 and having a dual-SIM function. If this rumoured SE-variant delivers both, I am a happy shopper. 👍
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Why 8 Mpx, if it is based on iPhone 8 it should be a single 12 Mpx at a minimum?
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Yes, iPhone 12 at 5.4” would be great. If the rumoured SE coming in the spring is just a mere recycled iPhone 8 with a faster CPU, I will also wait until the next big release next autumn/fall. I can buy iPhone XR/11 right now, the only thing stopping me being their big size and weight.
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Any update on the SE's Back Camera Image Sensor ???
Very-likely ONLY 8 Mpx !
Why 8 Mpx, if it is based on iPhone 8 it should be a single 12 Mpx at a minimum?
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Yes, iPhone 12 at 5.4” would be great. If the rumoured SE coming in the spring is just a mere recycled iPhone 8 with a faster CPU, I will also wait until the next big release next autumn/fall. I can buy iPhone XR/11 right now, the only thing stopping me being their big size and weight.
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I may pick both up, depends. I really hope Apple doubles down and fixes all the hardware issues with the iPad Pros.
As far as the phone, I'll see. I don't care what it is called. If there's a notch though, no sale.
As far as the phone, I'll see. I don't care what it is called. If there's a notch though, no sale.
The price should not be as high, as it would be effectively an iPhone 11 mini, so my guess is around 600$ in the US?
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Basing it on iPhone 7 would work out even cheaper for Apple.
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Why not go for iPhone XR or 11 then?
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How has NO ONE mentioned the original iPhone SE keynote yet? Apple explicitly said they were BLOWN AWAY at how many people demanded a small screen. The SE was first and foremost about smallness and appeasing the overwhelming / astonishing / surprising / researched-backed SMALL PHONE LOVER. NOT price.
It’s getting tough with iPhone but I think it’s even harder to imagine what new stuff Apple can bring to the iPad Pro lineup right now apart from refreshes of internal components (e.g. faster SoC, maybe more RAM, possibly repriced storage tiers). If it’s true that the 2020 iPhones will go square-edged, effectively the existing iPad Pro design language, then it would seem perverse to me if Apple moved the iPad away from that design language in the very same year that the iPhones adopted it so the physical look might well be unchanged for 2020 (no bad thing).
I’m not fussed about 3D sensor. I’ll always take more performance if there are no downsides, and like WoodpeckerBaby I’d be interested to see what new display tech might come along but what else? Frankly the big thing I would like for a replacement for my 11” iPad Pro right now is a big boost in battery life, something like the 30% increase they did for the iPhone 11 Pro & Pro Max. I use my iPad a lot and I can’t get through a day without needing to recharge. A minimum 30% increase in battery life is number one on my wish list for the 2020 models.
I’m not fussed about 3D sensor. I’ll always take more performance if there are no downsides, and like WoodpeckerBaby I’d be interested to see what new display tech might come along but what else? Frankly the big thing I would like for a replacement for my 11” iPad Pro right now is a big boost in battery life, something like the 30% increase they did for the iPhone 11 Pro & Pro Max. I use my iPad a lot and I can’t get through a day without needing to recharge. A minimum 30% increase in battery life is number one on my wish list for the 2020 models.
It was also about releasing a better device for less cash. The SE was basically 6S but $100 cheaper which for most people is a lot.
At the very least, size matters as much as price does. I guess it was you who hasn't seen the Keynote because there and then they gloated about the price being so low stating "Only $399 which makes it our most affordable iPhone we've ever introduced".
I’m not sure what 3D sensors would provide, probably something related to AR.
But I was more referring to iPhone SE 2, a lot of people were asking for that. Put that with the 16 inch MBP and the changes they made, and the improvements of Mac Pro compared to its predecessor, and the Airpods pro, Apple is addressing a lot of things people were asking for.