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Kuo: iPhone 13 Now More Likely to Get Upgraded Ultra Wide Camera With Improved Low-Light Performance
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100%. I'm still using my iPhone 7 Plus because I want nothing to do with Face ID. Reading about the latest iOS beta that allows confirming Face ID for masked users on their Apple watch, why doesn't Apple just have the watch unlock the iPhone the same way? I only have to unlock my watch once a day, but my others devices constantly. This would be an acceptable alternative to reintroducing Touch ID on devices.
1.) I did some research into the high MP sensors awhile back, & then concluded I would simply prefer Apple offer 12.2 Mpx image sensors with BIGGER pixels.
2.) Those old 12.2 Mpx image sensors have the exact same Read Noise Performance Specs as the latest & greatest image sensors; this is where the Mobile Industry has hit a wall; Google stuck with what they have because this Spec is NOT improving; unless/until it does, things have stalled-out; supporting 10-bit capture @ 60 fps isn't even possible today with 12.2 Mpx image sensors; 40 fps OR so is best case today; better circuitry is needed (in the ICs & as power input to the ICs) to reduce the ADC read noise to move past where we are today.
Why not a high end camera in a phone size case? Fair disclosure: I'm not an optical or camera engineer, but know just enough to be dangerous. What do you get with a high end Canon, Nikon, etc? 1) A big sensor. You can get a lot of light on a big sensor. Why not cover the back of a phone camera with sensors? That's a big area. 2) On a pro or consumer pro camera you get large, expensive, heavy, bulky long focal length big-glass. Bend the light with a mirror 90 degrees and travel along the longer dimensions of the phone. Combine all this with some computing power, voila! Who wouldn't want a high end camera that fits in your pocket. Wouldn't this fit Apple's expertise much closer than a car? Next project, fit all this in a watch 
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The high MP sensors can do pixel binning to compensate for the pixel size. At the same time, it gives room pixel-density wise for better digital zoom. Add on some ML magic, this might be a solution for the non-pro iPhones if Apple insisted on equipping only 2 lenses (wide and ultra-wide).
Meanwhile the Pros can keep their current setup as they have an actual telephoto lens.
Anyway, just an idea.
It would be nice to have all iPhone models receive the same cameras but I doubt Apple would do such as it allows them to differentiate and upcharge on the Pro and Pro Max.
I‘d rather they remove MagSafe (which is honestly better used for laptops) and focus on streamlining their product line. 4-5 versions of the same product is getting out of hand and reminds me of the fragmented Scully era. Two sizes, same features, simple.
Perhaps a Touch ID sensor (under the display or on the power button like the iPad Air) would make sense as we head into year two of the pandemic.
I‘d rather they remove MagSafe (which is honestly better used for laptops) and focus on streamlining their product line. 4-5 versions of the same product is getting out of hand and reminds me of the fragmented Scully era. Two sizes, same features, simple.
Perhaps a Touch ID sensor (under the display or on the power button like the iPad Air) would make sense as we head into year two of the pandemic.
That images makes my skin itch lol https://www.healthline.com/health/trypophobiaWhy not a high end camera in a phone size case? Fair disclosure: I'm not an optical or camera engineer, but know just enough to be dangerous. What do you get with a high end Canon, Nikon, etc? 1) A big sensor. You can get a lot of light on a big sensor. Why not cover the back of a phone camera with sensors? That's a big area. 2) On a pro or consumer pro camera you get large, expensive, heavy, bulky long focal length big-glass. Bend the light with a mirror 90 degrees and travel along the longer dimensions of the phone. Combine all this with some computing power, voila! Who wouldn't want a high end camera that fits in your pocket. Wouldn't this fit Apple's expertise much closer than a car? Next project, fit all this in a watch
I don’t get it. Apple has a huge number of photo related patents. That includes a large number from its own R&D, as well as I believe, at least 2,000 it bought from Kodak a few years ago.
yet, it just buys these things from off the shelf manufacturers. It should come out with much better cameras itself, even if they do cost a bit more. What‘s all that money for that they have? From the vast amount they throw in the trash from those worthless stock buybacks, they could take a measly $200 million, and develop something spectacular.
yet, it just buys these things from off the shelf manufacturers. It should come out with much better cameras itself, even if they do cost a bit more. What‘s all that money for that they have? From the vast amount they throw in the trash from those worthless stock buybacks, they could take a measly $200 million, and develop something spectacular.
Interesting observation about the sides. I have only seen one 12 Pro in the wild and it was my buddies. The one I noticed that I didn’t like was how much more polished the sides looked compared to the more smoked looking SS finish on my 11 Pro. The 12 Pro was graphite va my space gray 11 Pro.
I've always enjoyed making photographs with iPhones, going back to the iPhone 5, followed by the 6+, 10 X, and now the 12 Pro. When I'm out an about my iPhone is always with ready for a photo on a moment's notice. Though I have dSLRs, and various "mirrorless" cams, and even an Arca-Swiss 4x5, I much prefer using my phone. The photo below was from my 6+, in San Francisco, overlooking the Pacific Ocean.
Why, when the results that can be achieved are likely a great match for 99% of Apple's customer base? The success or strength of a photo rarely has much to do with gear.
yea, that's very slow on their part. a lot of competitors already have it. i'm still very happy with my xs, but don't know if i want to keep it for yet another year come september...
What you’re saying isn’t really true. We know that the cameras are one of the most important reasons why people buy a particular camera. There’s no reason why Apple has to have a “me too” camera in their phones.
I'm still on my XS. I was tempted to get the 12 or the 12 pro but between quarantine and how well my current phone performs, I'm thinking one more generation might do the trick.
It's absolutely true. And there are a lot of reasons why Apple doesn't design, starting with the sensor, and have manufactured their own camera. Just curious, are you an electrical engineer or photographer?
I don’t think you’re jaded bro, like someone said below the smartphone market is quite mature at this point so progress tend to be more iterative. Same reason I upgrade roughly every 3 gens, the mini for me very interested this year
I fiddled a bit with a colleague's blue Pro Max. The size and supershiny sides made me happy to hold on to my green 11 Pro. The only thing I momentarily envied was the camera. Nothing else.
Timmy doesn't care about developing something spectacular. As long as minimum effort/ risk still sell tons, he'll keep on reaping these record quarterly earnings to pump back into worthless stock buybacks. Probably they'll be using these patents for infringement-related litigation cases and nothing more. And that's Apple today.
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