This logic would also apply to 13mini pre-orders.
So yeah, if the 14plus has less pre-orders compared to it, it's still a flop.
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Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails'
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This logic would also apply to 13mini pre-orders.
So yeah, if the 14plus has less pre-orders compared to it, it's still a flop.
Honestly the solution is pretty clear: iPhone 15 Pro mini.
The demand for a smaller iPhone was always tilted in favor of enthusiasts, interestingly, and those are the ones who tend to pre-order. I bought minis when they were available, and I would have again. This year I pre-ordered an iPhone 14 Pro.
The demand for a smaller iPhone was always tilted in favor of enthusiasts, interestingly, and those are the ones who tend to pre-order. I bought minis when they were available, and I would have again. This year I pre-ordered an iPhone 14 Pro.
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As others kinda discussed, this model isn't as likely to attract day 1 buyers as much as the pro models. This will likely be a later sale for people who stroll in and are looking to replace an older device.
The Plus is tempting for me to get for my mom, who has expressed interest in a larger replacement for her iPhone X.
The Plus is tempting for me to get for my mom, who has expressed interest in a larger replacement for her iPhone X.
In my EU country, 13 Pro is about $1088 and 14 is $1131.
13 Pro Max starts at $1241 and 14 Plus is $1263.
Exact same A15 SoC for both but iPhones 13 Pro have markedly better displays, (at large) superior camera setup, and come in finishes that are far more attractive and higher quality than (standard) iPhones 14.
In short, incredibly low value-proposition for 14 and 14 Plus.
We also don’t get the satellite emergency feature for any iPhones 14.
Maybe battery is better on iPhones 14 compared to 13 Pro? Could be but probably not a lot.
But no matter how you look at it, value/$ is just terrible for (standard) iPhones 14.
Has to be the worst value of any mid-tier iPhone since they split the flagship into two.
Of course it isn’t Apple’s fault, but I also think the timing of the launch was awful (while I don’t disagree with your points - especially the battery on the 12 - I think timing might have played a bigger role).
The 2 Mini was launched in a massive wave of lockdowns globally and as many people started to realise they wouldn’t be travelling/commuting for quite a while. Everything was lined-up to kill demand for a more portable phone.
Let's recap. Reasons why the 14 Plus may be "failing" so far:
-Delayed release date
-Older chip (maybe unimportant to casual buyers, but understood by those who preorder on Day 1)
-Higher price (relative to 14, minis, and last years models in many countries)
-Overshadowed by Pro models (I'm sure this is always the case early on, as buyers who preorder are more likely to be interested in higher-end models)
I can still easily imagine a lot of people walking into a store and choosing the 14 Plus (once it's available) for its combination of price (less than Pros) and size.
-Delayed release date
-Older chip (maybe unimportant to casual buyers, but understood by those who preorder on Day 1)
-Higher price (relative to 14, minis, and last years models in many countries)
-Overshadowed by Pro models (I'm sure this is always the case early on, as buyers who preorder are more likely to be interested in higher-end models)
I can still easily imagine a lot of people walking into a store and choosing the 14 Plus (once it's available) for its combination of price (less than Pros) and size.
This data is too early and usually executives have privy to this info only....how the hell is he making this claim?
I'm still using my 12 mini. Really torn between 1) holding on another year, 2) getting a 14 pro, or 3) grabbing a 13 mini.
I don't love any of those options. Maybe the mini lives on as the next gen SE. If so, I'd likely go that route. Still, the stuff most tempting about the 14 pro is the battery life, satellite SOS (trying to do more solo backpacking and that's a nice safety feature), and camera upgrades.
Tough choices.
I don't love any of those options. Maybe the mini lives on as the next gen SE. If so, I'd likely go that route. Still, the stuff most tempting about the 14 pro is the battery life, satellite SOS (trying to do more solo backpacking and that's a nice safety feature), and camera upgrades.
Tough choices.
Maybe. The mini was actually unique and a lot of enthusiasts wanted the small size.
Yup. I would have got the Plus for the wife, if it hadn't been for radio reviews. Normally she just left the phone purchases up to me and I just bought what I thought she would want, and each time she's been very pleased with what I got her. eg. iPhone XR in 2018.
However, this year the plethora of media touting the new 48 MP camera got to her, so she's asked for the Pro Max.
It's not the timing. It's the size and perceived lack of value. As mentioned, this year the much more expensive models all far, far, far outsold the mini. Whereas the the 13, 13 Pro, and 13 Max as well as the 12 were the top 4 best sellers. The mini didn't even make the top 10.
No, the Pro levels haven't always existed. Going back to my example, when the new iPhone 4S launched in 2011, there were no display size options, different camera options, etc. like we have these days. The only variable was storage size. Things are much different today with variables not only in storage size but also camera capabilities, display size, etc. and it's those other variables that make a Pro level phone a Pro level phone. You simply didn't have that years ago.
Not as long as there are still 13 Pros in stock.
Well, iPhones 14 and 14 Plus will only get to 13 sales if prices for 14 and 14 Plus drop a few hundred dollars below 13 Pro and 13 Pro Max.
No way (standard) 14 and Plus will appeal to anyone at Apple’s suggested prices. Value is just too low to ask that much.
It was also launched a few months after the SE2, which many people had already bought who had long been waiting for a new smaller iPhone. There were a lot of folks who said wow, if I knew the mini was coming out I wouldn’t have bought the SE2.
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In Apple Stores, the previous year's Pros sell out in the first week. So essentially the previous year's Pros don't exist at Apple after September. However, often the carriers will have stock for a while, variable between each carrier, so availability of those models will depend on your local carriers.
Those people actually got the 12mini one year earlier.
The 13mini was a refresh of that and so had low interest.
Now the 14plus has even lower interest and it's supposed to be a new addition to the lineup. Imagine that.
Still can't believe it's still got that huge notch