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Just a reminder almost every other company is using their standard for usb-c fast charging.
Samsung, OnePlus, Xiaomi (if I am not wrong) - their cables sometimes not even charge low power devices like hubs, electric teeth brushers (is that correct name?)…

And EU give nothing about it 🥲
Edit: added video about general usb-c issue
 
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I don't understand why people who are feeling screwed over by Apple are not able to simply change brands and find happiness.

I guess it's about not wanting any agency in their lives and believe being screwed over is OK.
I've already switched brands so, as usual, your snide comments and weak attempts to throw shade at people go nowhere
 
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Apple has been forced into this corner by the EU. The EU doesn’t care if Joe Schmo uses a $2 cable that won’t adequately support his iPhone 15. Apple does care, and they have to walk this tightrope of following the law but not allowing junk to ruin their experience.

This is a no-win scenario, IMO.

People with Lightning cables have to toss them, flooding the environment. Apple loses revenue over MFi, which that money’s gotta come from somewhere (hello higher iPhone prices). And users will think some cheap Chinese $2 cable will have the same spec as a $20 cable, and blame Apple when it doesn’t work.

Unfortunately, the best thing Apple can do is ditch the port altogether.
 
"As part of the move, Apple is expected to restrict certain advantages of USB-C like faster charging and data speeds to work with MFi-certified cables and chargers only. As a result, Kuo believes Apple is anticipating a major increase in demand for its own USB-C 20W Power Adapter. "

I don't understand why Apple feels the need to screw over the consumer when creating USB-C chargers.
Oh, that's easy!

$$$$$$$$
 
Maybe not. I wouldn't be surprised that with a non-MFi cable, the maximum will be more like 27 watts, but with a MFi cable it will be around 35 watts. 27 watts is more than enough to charge even the iPhone 15 Plus and Pro Max models.
 
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Well this backfired. Leave it to Apple to use an open up move by the EU to become more closed down. Now we have to buy Apple-approved USB-C chargers AND Apple-approved cables, lol.
 
Still can‘t understand, why everyone is so sure about a USB-C iPhone this year. (I mean I like the physical Lighning connector, but can value the USB-C benefits despite missing the „built-quality of Lighning vs USB-C).
But unfortunately, that law comes in effect by the END of 2024, so technically Apple could easily get away with shipping even the iPhone 16 LineUp with Lightning (Since the production and shipping will have started before the „law-enforcing“-date). Only the then new iPhone 17 in 2025 will actually be obligated to actually ship with USB-C
Two more years of Lightning would be fine by me. Lightning >USB-C all day long and twice on Sunday. 👍😀
 
Because they can.

They don't like that they were forced to switch from their proprietary lighting port to USB-C. But if they have to do it, they will do it in a way that makes them the most money.

An iPhone 14 with a third-party lightning to USB-C cable and a third-party charger like Anker will probably charge faster than an iPhone 15 with third-party cables and chargers.

That is infuriating.

The European regulators that forced Apple into this change end up making things worse, or at least, not better. Unintended consequences. (I'm not anti-regulation, btw. I'm anti- dumb regulation.)

Reminds me of the EU rule that means we now have to click through a cookie page before reaching the website. This is going to be another case of the EU making things worse because their tech people aren’t half as smart as everyone else’s tech people.
 
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Oh wait, wasn't the line before that "we don't want to give you a charger, cable, headset...etc" anymore because you already have them and we want to protect the environment? If this is the case, that higher speeds are only possible with Apple approved cables, I hope the EU rakes them over the coals.

How ****ing stupid is Tim Cook?
 
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So don’t use Dollar Tree cables for a $1000 device. Got it.
Definitely not from Dollar Tree, but there are very cheap USB-IF certified (they created the USB-C spec) cables and chargers from brands like Nekteck that won’t ruin expensive devices.
 
And if does happen will you actually complain or will you find unlikely justifications for apple’s greedy behaviour?
If it retains the USB 2 speed, yes. But I doubt that will happen. As far as MFi, then of course that won’t happen.

I read the article and realised it was about 10 days early for April Fools, but at least they got in first, right? It’s just Kuo Click-bait and people bit In droves. He can’t seem to help it.
 
It’s easy to charge devices with USB-C but I do like lightning port(apart from transfer speed). I’ve been using my 12PM since release and never had any problems. With Samsung I had earlier, USB-C felt fragile always. That’s why I waited until Apple released MacBook with magsafe. If EU was worried about environment, they should have forced apple to include charger with iPhones sold in EU. If Apple decides to restrict charging speeds while using non MFI cables, the whole point in EU’s law becomes worthless. iPhone is one of the slowest in charging speeds and they are making it even slower to force customer to buy MFI chargers and cables.
 
Not knowing a lot about the capabilitiies of the underlying "pinning" that goes into USB-C, I do know that USB-C does do data transfer. I would think that part of the Mfi requirement would be to ensure that a charger does exactly, and only that: charge. If "fast charging" requires more technology in the charger itself (as opposed to just being 20W), then perhaps that extra tech can also be used to act as a data transfer/sniffer device.

It could also be that Apple is making vendors do the Mfi program so that their products don't suck. My family used to buy cheapy non-apple chargers, and they broke, stopped charging, got hot, etc. This could be a way for Apple to continue to ensure high quality 3rd party options.

And, as others have stated, not even sure this is a fact...

As far as current USB-C Apple 20W chargers, it is documented on the Apple website that these support fast charging -- the 18W ones do as well. Remember, Mfi is only for3rd party manufacturers, Apple does not need to "Mfi certify" its own accessories...
 
As already noted by several people, including myself (after reading the legislation), a move like that would likely not be compatible with the requirements of the common charger legislation, which dictates USB PD support for faster charging.
Well, they can always software-deactivate this in european iphones and f*** the rest if the world.

At least limiting third party chargers would show that them "caring" about the environment is just greenwashing.

But I'd bet that it won't happen. This is against the intent of the EU-law so they'll probably be forced to compy eventually and also it would get them massively bad press.
 
Remember Apple cares deeply about the environment, every MFI cable sold helps an adorable woodland creature to breath better and helps trees to grow tall and strong.

None compliant cables are destined for the oceans and will likely kill a dolphin.
 
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Surprised noone's mentioned it yet, but surely any non-USB-IF approved hardware would mean that the Apple solution would not meet the USB-PD specification and thus not meet the EU requirements.

See also the Nintendo Switch power adaptor which uses a USB-C socket, but is not USB-PD compliant and for those a bit bit older, CDs using certain copyright protection software, were not allowed to display the Compact Disc logo as they were not compliant with the standard.
 
Surprised noone's mentioned it yet, but surely any non-USB-IF approved hardware would mean that the Apple solution would not meet the USB-PD specification and thus not meet the EU requirements.

See also the Nintendo Switch power adaptor which uses a USB-C socket, but is not USB-PD compliant and for those a bit bit older, CDs using certain copyright protection software, were not allowed to display the Compact Disc logo as they were not compliant with the standard.

Yeah but they are getting sued six ways from Sunday in the EU anyway and they can spin the appeals out for years while they rake in all those lovely MFI dollars care for our planet.
 
Does this mean Apple’s current 20W chargers already have a MiFi certification built in? Going to be super annoying and wasteful if you can’t even use current USB-C Apple charging bricks/cables and have to get all new ones.
 
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