EU regulations will not allow it to require a chip...so yes it's a vague rumor getting people all riled up. And riled up people click on links...generating revenue. Apple has had MFI chips since the iPod, and non-MFI stuff has worked fine. So yes, this is just click bait meant to agitate people.
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Kuo: iPhone 15 MFi Requirements Expected to Boost Apple USB-C Charger Shipments
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No it’s not. Or are you talking about Click-Bait Kuo as the source of irrefutable evidence? 🤣🤣
Seriously though. What non vague rumour are you referring to. Surely nothing in this thread.
At worst, Apple will have a certified cable that they will ensure runs at FULL capability. Many Amazon cables don’t. Buy at your own peril.
Definitely there will be a huge increase in sale of power adapters. Lack of charger in the box helps Apple bring in lots of $.
The MFI chip would be in the cable, not the power adapter, and guess which of those things your iPhone comes with. This is just a clickbait rumor meant to agitate people.
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I guess it would just remain to be seen if MFi is used to help consumers or cripple them. In a perfect world, they would just embrace USB-PD and say "make sure you use one of those"
Excepting to say that doesn’t address bandwidth.
The biggest problem with this entire mess is that anyone can call anything a USB-C if it has the connectors.
You can’t even call a USB-C cable "USB-C PD v3.1". Because USB has a standard of 3.1 (for 5 Gbps) And USB-C PD also has a 3.1 version (the current one). You just don’t know what you’re getting. They need a naming standard for USB-C that address both Bandwidth and Power Delivery.
USB-C is great, but the consumer who wants to charge their phone, laptop, or wants to download their video files can’t easily see what they are buying. If Apple were to have MFi, it would have a specification that is known, and that makes it worthwhile.
There is: Money. They’re selling more iPhones than any other product.
And iPhones have the smallest batteries and are most often charged.
Quite the contrary: they’ve mandated a common charging protocol that devices must support (at a minimum).
There’s no problem with making USB-C compliant charging cables for $2.
It‘s not 2016 Benson Leung time anymore - and Apple’s cables aren’t made of magical stardust either.
You just need to adhere to the USB-C standard.
A myriad of proprietary charging standards hasn‘t made and isn’t making things better.
This is just plain bashing of the EU and politicians/legislators that lacks a rational argument.
This makes no sense at all. Forcing Apple to ship and customers to buy more chargers when the already have some does nothing good for the environment. Especially when chargers are used for 5 or 10 years by many people: longer than the lifespan of their phones.
The EU is in fact preparing to mandate unbundling of chargers from device sales (i.e. tell manufscturers that they have to give consumers the option to buy without a charger).
USB PD is quite usable and useful. Not worthless.
And if anyone’s making any charging slower, it‘s greedy Apple.
Yeah, who else could clear up that entire mess (of USB-C specs) for consumers if not a company like Apple?
I legitimately believe that the folks at USBIF that come up with the naming standards go to a hotel and drop acid before they name things. The naming conventions could have been so easy. They either deliberately turned it into an absurd mess or were tripping balls when they wrote them.
While I fully agree that this is Apple nonsense with the MFi cable and charging block/accessories program is based on greed, I disagree 50% of the environment crap statement.
Most people that draw this will point to Android phones. Even Flossy’s channel continues on every unboxing video stating “charger in the box, pay attention Apple and Samsung”. Yet these phones seem to more than likely have a USB-A port on the block!! To me that’s stupid and defeats the purpose of having usb-c end to end cable. THAT is a waste cause it’ll be tossed out.
If you haven’t notice the increase of really bizarre storm, floods, rising of water levels and most importantly average yearly temperatures … then don’t worry it’ll not affect you until you’re 90, but your offspring and their children will default feel the impact daily!
Don’t think Elysium in space is ready to be the solution lol.
The duality of the macrumors user.
As a consumer and a person who cares somewhat for the environment, I weep for this change.
As a shareholder, I cheer this change.
As a consumer and a person who cares somewhat for the environment, I weep for this change.
As a shareholder, I cheer this change.
I’m guessing a lot of people here mistakenly think MFi is just to allow people to add a cable to an iPhone. It is not. Notwithstanding, I also understand a lot of people just like to hate on Apple for everything, so there is that.
MFi certification is far far more and includes the integration with the actual ecosystem.
It includes:
mfi.apple.com
MFi certification is far far more and includes the integration with the actual ecosystem.
It includes:
- AirPlay audio
- Car Keys
- CarPlay
- Find My network
- GymKit
- HomeKit
- iPod Accessory Protocol (iAP)
- MFi Game Controller
- MFi Hearing Aid
- Wi-Fi Accessory Configuration (WAC)
MFi Program
I really hope that the iPhone 15 Pro at least comes with USB 4 if not Thunderbolt. Transferring video files from FilmicPro is the biggest ⚽️ ache around.
Imagine the chaos of Apple didn’t do these sorts of things. Given there is already a mass market for dodgy chargers and cables that cause consumers harm Apple actually manages to provide a method where we as consumers can be confident the charger we buy isn’t going to explode.I’m guessing a lot of people here mistakenly think MFi is just to allow people to add a cable to an iPhone. It is not. Notwithstanding, I also understand a lot of people just like to hate on Apple for everything, so there is that.
MFi certification is far far more and includes the integration with the actual ecosystem.
It includes:
- AirPlay audio
- Car Keys
- CarPlay
- Find My network
- GymKit
- HomeKit
- iPod Accessory Protocol (iAP)
- MFi Game Controller
- MFi Hearing Aid
- Wi-Fi Accessory Configuration (WAC)
MFi Program
…cause nobody in the world would ever manufacture fake Apple chargers (and cables). And sell them on Amazon!? They‘ll even print an MFi logo on the box.
MFi certification doesn’t stop dodgy chargers from being made, sold and bought (or exploding). Neither does it stop them from working with - higher-powered! - Apple devices like iPads and MacBooks.
You’ve hit on a really good point.
Apple haven’t stopped you using these devices (any more) but you’ll be notified if it isn’t MFi. You can’t blame Apple or MFi for fraud, but Apple have developed a way so that you know you don’t have an MFi device.
I notice Samsung has a message on their website saying there have been counterfeit Samsung products and telling people they shouldn’t buy them. I guess they fixed that problem. Samsung's response to fake products
I'm curious on the speeds. over 30w at least. the charging speeds really do need to be improved.
So more e-waste because current USB-C chargers won’t work to their fullest?
I’m 1,000,000% behind this. It’s certainly a great way to say “screw you” to the European regulators.
I think Apple should go even further make it so iPads require it as well. My only question is, is it at all possible to implement this retroactively, either in software or hardware?
I think Apple should go even further make it so iPads require it as well. My only question is, is it at all possible to implement this retroactively, either in software or hardware?
Why though?
Just supporting corporate greed as a shareholder?
Whether you like or agree with EU regulation and the requirement for a USB-C port as a charging port is one thing. But actively crippling such standardised ports in software or with proprietary markers or software would just be an anti-consumer/anti-user move on Apple’s part.
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Every time you plug your device in the screen could have a pop up with some info: charging watts, estimated time until full. When moving data you can check the data rate. The pop up could also specify that it is an MFI cable and adapter, or not.
To comply with European law the devices should theoretically all work regardless, as well as possible. But at least we can know if the peripherals we are using are MFI certified, and therefore not potential junk.
To comply with European law the devices should theoretically all work regardless, as well as possible. But at least we can know if the peripherals we are using are MFI certified, and therefore not potential junk.