Kuo is wrong here. Thermal design would be accross the board. This explanation doesn't explain the inconsistent reports. Apple being forced to accept chips that are out of spec due to demand vs low yields, would. An example would be a defect in the transistor structure can cause the transistor to leak current, which will waste power and generate heat.
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Kuo: iPhone 15 Pro Overheating Issues Likely Due to Thermal Compromises, Not 3nm Node
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agreed. I considering canceling mine bc of this issue. It’s already hot as h*ll in TX. I dont need something to combust in my hand or pocket. You’d think they would have experienced this in the field tests and have it fixed before launch. Or they didnt care. Beginning to think there is something to the idea of pushing Cook out and getting fresh, innovative blood in there.
I mean, it's only been five days. They likely announce something by around early to mid October next month.
Something is up for sure. The so pro max she says is fine. My pro got so hot during some synchs it said over heating stopping. I was like wow this thing is wicked bad. Thankfully I have another few days to let it try to sort it self and then yep esim transfer back to 14 pro and just shake my head.
Ooh.
Thought we were talking about iPhones here and current heating issue. iPhones. I highlighted a specific Android phone for a reason - not for overheating but for advances in cooling to achieve sustained SoC performance rates without the need to throttle. I should’ve emphasized throttle specifically.
It’s very weird. I set mine up as a new phone. I do that every year.
I think my wife restored from a backup.
It could be software related. Maybe the new chip isn’t that well optimised.
I setup my 15 pro as new and it is HOT and has had multiple warning messages about the iPhone needs to cool down all while it is sitting here just trying to download data on a blistering good wifi connection. I think apple has a serious issue going on here, i can not say if that serious issue is software or hardware. I just know i see some thing very wrong, compared to the entire life cycle of the phones i have had in the past almost 14 years with apple
I'm on 17.0.2 on iPhone 13 Pro Max and everything is fine. Maybe faster battery drain (since 17.0), but that' it.
I just mentioned this in another thread, but I'll also add it here as I know there are some people here mentioning there being an issue because of how hot their device got when setting it up.
For what it's worth, I recently set up an iPhone 12 Pro (on iOS 17) as a temporary device while I was waiting for my iPhone 15 Pro to be delivered. During the first hour, I noticed the temperature warning multiple times. I also remember my iPhone 14 Pro getting pretty hot this time last year when I set that up fresh, too. The iPhone 12 Pro was the only one I've ever seen a warning on.
For what it's worth, I recently set up an iPhone 12 Pro (on iOS 17) as a temporary device while I was waiting for my iPhone 15 Pro to be delivered. During the first hour, I noticed the temperature warning multiple times. I also remember my iPhone 14 Pro getting pretty hot this time last year when I set that up fresh, too. The iPhone 12 Pro was the only one I've ever seen a warning on.
There is zero evidence at this point that it’s a hardware issue and not some rogue process causing the CPU usage to spike and run at nearly 100%. Could even be a third party app causing it.
More likely the overheating is due to Apple and Google spyware. Apple prove to me that your toggles really due turn off tracking features. We all know the Control Center controls don't turn anything off. Just disconnects. Oh and I love how Apple's Safari setting called Advanced Tracking and Fingerprinting Protection bypasses my ad blocker settings. Apple is just as bad as Google has always been.
Your 13PM still looks great now especially with seeing that the 15PM barely beats it in battery life! And no burning hands, as well.
Yea my 13 pro max has never really throttled/heated up much playing graphics intensive games either.
I also have the green 13 pro max which is a great colour too
Yeah seems like a nice phone…i personally dont have a phone at all though😅 i yell out to people instead.
I upgrade every year and both the 14 pro max (batter) and now the 15 pro max just seem like Apple is not doing due diligence in testing. Luckily, mine did not get hot during my iCloud restore, nor has it been anything other a little warm at times. That was something I remember on previous phones as well.
But obviously there is a problem with at least some phones and I can't understand how Apple with over a year of design testing didn't experience it?
Pair that with the utter failure of fine woven (again did no one test these on a phone for even a day?) and you have to wonder is Apple going straight from CAD deign to production without actually testing? I say that jokingly, but these are real reed flags that the proper testing is being done on a $1000+ iPhone.
The solution cannot be throttling. You've sold us on X performance...then you realize, crap we didn't account for heat dissipation so we'll slow your phone down to Y speed...problem solved! Nope, not OK. If they do that, I hope for class action suit.
Remember, they promoted console games on this thing heavily in their announcement. If you can only play a gam like that for 10 minutes at a tine because of heat! Don't tell us it's the USB-C cable we're using, or the case we're using, or we're holding it wrong. If you messed up, admit it and make it right. I think Apple is used to taking its loyal customer base for granted and expects we'll all just buy the next model.
But obviously there is a problem with at least some phones and I can't understand how Apple with over a year of design testing didn't experience it?
Pair that with the utter failure of fine woven (again did no one test these on a phone for even a day?) and you have to wonder is Apple going straight from CAD deign to production without actually testing? I say that jokingly, but these are real reed flags that the proper testing is being done on a $1000+ iPhone.
The solution cannot be throttling. You've sold us on X performance...then you realize, crap we didn't account for heat dissipation so we'll slow your phone down to Y speed...problem solved! Nope, not OK. If they do that, I hope for class action suit.
Remember, they promoted console games on this thing heavily in their announcement. If you can only play a gam like that for 10 minutes at a tine because of heat! Don't tell us it's the USB-C cable we're using, or the case we're using, or we're holding it wrong. If you messed up, admit it and make it right. I think Apple is used to taking its loyal customer base for granted and expects we'll all just buy the next model.
Good to know.
Thank you.
As I wrote in the post, “Any thoughts from anyone with expertise?”
I’m also keeping in mind that the camera sensor stabilization violent shaking issue that affected a fraction of iPhone 14 models was a problem that only presented when using the iPhone 14’s camera in the Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok apps.
But the software fix was made to the operating system, not to these apps.
Now, if someone with expertise has knowledge they can share as to why the iPhone 15 Pro is — at least at present — beating/outperforming the iPhone 15 Pro Max in standardized published benchmarks like Geekbench.
Given that:
∙ They both share an identical A17 Pro SoC
∙ The iPhone 15 Pro Max has a slightly higher screen resolution than the iPhone 15 Pro that could lower performance
∙ The iPhone 15 Pro Max has 8GB LPDDR5 RAM — 2 more gigabytes than the iPhone 15 Pro — which should improve overall performance, not degrade it
∙ The iPhone 15 Pro Max is physically larger and presumably better able to dissipate heat than the iPhone 15 Pro, presumably affecting how often thermal throttling is required to happen during use, which typically impacts performance
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I don't buy into "overheating" hysteria. 99% of the time people conflate "getting warm" to "overheating" because they don't understand that chips get warm when doing things and what sounds hot to a human isn't hot to a computer chip.
If it's truly overheating, the screen will dim, the device will stutter, and eventually shut off. That's overheating.
If it's truly overheating, the screen will dim, the device will stutter, and eventually shut off. That's overheating.
Since you are ignoring older posts I'll say mine again directly to you and others:
If the device throttles, turns off the screen, and/or stops charging with a temperature warning, what should we call it to make you acknowledge the issue?
Seen all three on my 15 Pro since Friday.
One more observation: I bought an aluminum bumper for my 15 Pro from Amazon prior to receiving the phone. I've been thinking about returning it because it doesn't work well with the action button and the in-package screen protector kinda sucks, but the bumper's ability to transfer excess heat from the titanium frame has me thinking twice. The feature is even advertised on the product page. I bought it mostly for drop protection.
15PM has gotten very hot on several occasions. Didn’t shut itself down or stop operations, but definitely got very uncomfortable to hold. Huge departure from my 14 pro which I never remember getting hot even during same games that roast this phone. Something definitely up with this gen.
You’re right. I stand corrected.
GSMARENA and other sites are beginning to report that the iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max both have 8GB of RAM, because, it is written, “We know the A17 Pro should be paired with 8GB of RAM from leaks and benchmarks.”
iPhone 15 Pro Geekbench score crushes every single Android phone out there
But why does the iPhone 15 Pro pull better Geekbench scores than the the iPhone 15 Pro Max?
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What country is this? I thought Apple's 14 day policy was worldwide, unless a country made them have a more permissive one. I've never heard of LESS.