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Kuo: iPhone 15 Pro Overheating Issues Likely Due to Thermal Compromises, Not 3nm Node
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How is this terrible battery.. that puts the phone’s total battery at 18-19 hours to 0% which is amazingMy wife's 15PM is like a camp fire at times on extended phone calls, and her battery life is terrible. This morning she charged to 100% and when she got home from work (10 hours later) is was at 42% battery life, she said normal use through out the day.
Not expectable Apple
Alloys of aluminum possess high thermal conductivity of 210 W/m-K compared to titanium with 17.0 W/m-K. Certainly doesn’t help, and definitely doesn’t inspire confidence in the AAA games that the iphone is meant to be running soon.
I’m getting the 15 plus😅
I’m getting the 15 plus😅
This doesn’t really suggest that at all.
Glass has terrible thermal conductivity, and so does titanium, when compared to aluminium.
Despite this, given enough time and energy you can still heat up materials like glass and titanium to a temperature as hot as any other material.
These 15 pro’s could potentially be cooking themselves inside.
My 12 and 13 pro are running cool as always.
But I do suspect iOS 17 might be going extra hard on the initial data indexing when people transfer their files to the new phones - which could be part of the reason why people are seeing these issues now and why they may get better as time goes on.
They will throttle all iPhones with iOS 17 otherwise the 15p would look bad.
"Small" sized iPhone 15 Pro here coming from a 13 Pro.
Can't objectively say how much warmer it is, also because I used my 13 Pro with a case and my 15 Pro is "naked".
I do notice it's getting quite warm when charging with a >=20 watts charger or MagSafe, but I'd say it's pretty similar to my 13 Pro.
I did run the new 3DMark stress test with ray tracing while charging the device, and sure, the device gets pretty toasty and thermal throttles a good 20% down from the peak performance, but that's probably the worst case scenario I can create (unless it was very hot outside and I'd place the phone in direct sunlight). It doesn't burn my skin or anything, but it's not very comfortable to hold. Subjectively previous iPhones can get to similar levels of heat, but I didn't do any direct comparisons or scientific measurements.
I also think any judgement people trying to make can be somewhat influenced by the topic blowing up a lot. It seems to get 2-3 degrees hotter on the outside than previous models from what I saw.
We'll see if and how Apple reacts to this. They might adjust power/temperature curves or even voltage curves if the chips can handle it, or most likely simply release a statement that this is "normal" or "expected" behavior.
Can't objectively say how much warmer it is, also because I used my 13 Pro with a case and my 15 Pro is "naked".
I do notice it's getting quite warm when charging with a >=20 watts charger or MagSafe, but I'd say it's pretty similar to my 13 Pro.
I did run the new 3DMark stress test with ray tracing while charging the device, and sure, the device gets pretty toasty and thermal throttles a good 20% down from the peak performance, but that's probably the worst case scenario I can create (unless it was very hot outside and I'd place the phone in direct sunlight). It doesn't burn my skin or anything, but it's not very comfortable to hold. Subjectively previous iPhones can get to similar levels of heat, but I didn't do any direct comparisons or scientific measurements.
I also think any judgement people trying to make can be somewhat influenced by the topic blowing up a lot. It seems to get 2-3 degrees hotter on the outside than previous models from what I saw.
We'll see if and how Apple reacts to this. They might adjust power/temperature curves or even voltage curves if the chips can handle it, or most likely simply release a statement that this is "normal" or "expected" behavior.
Looks like it’s apps not optimised for ios17 nothing to do with the phone. So funny how people jump on the “phones 💩” bandwagon.
Literally just watched this video on YT and came here to post it.
Seems conclusive.
I use Instagram on my 14 pro max with ios 17 and absolutely no heat or overheating at all....
I don't use Instagram (never even installed) and I do have overheating on my 15 Pro; severe overheating during calls!
Sounds like this issue isn't as easy as "it's Instagram" then!
Great. After deliberating between the S23 Ultra and the 15PM, my wife and I opted to preorder the 15PM. Looks like that was the wrong decision.
Yeah, like Faruk is trustworthy guy. He's biased Apple head.
Ahhh, just the sort of issues that waiting for the new year will let you base a reasonable decision on.
Could be one more year with the Xr.
Will be interesting to see the use cases that cause such heat, after having a Surface Pro 1 years ago that was hot from just simple tasks like web browsing and mail reading.
This is the Star Trek Conundrum: As you trot down the hall with your all-conquering phaser on your hip, you're potentially one trip and fall away from blowing a hole in the side of the ship when you crack the 'battery' in the thing.
Could be one more year with the Xr.
Will be interesting to see the use cases that cause such heat, after having a Surface Pro 1 years ago that was hot from just simple tasks like web browsing and mail reading.
This is the Star Trek Conundrum: As you trot down the hall with your all-conquering phaser on your hip, you're potentially one trip and fall away from blowing a hole in the side of the ship when you crack the 'battery' in the thing.
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Thanks for a useful, qualitative description of your experience.
I always keep my phone and other 'portables' (e.g., Surface Pro, iPad, Surface Go) in a 'medium use' case, cuz Experience, and the issue I have is in the thermal dissipation with that extra layer on.
As I've noted, the first few Surface Pros were known as flame throwers, and I hope/doubt Apple would be so clueless as to release a similar hot brick.
I'll just have to be content with some far simpler and less expensive toys for the holidays when issues like this and other 'unknown unknowns' crop up in the near term.
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I dunno.
1. 15 has better reception than my 14P had.
2. Far cooler - 14P wouldn't overheat but would run warm quite often; my 15 has been cool as a cucumber.
3. Far lighter than the 14P.