I love the camera module renders. I don't mind the current camera module arrangement, but the renders above would be a nice change up from the now 5-6 year old camera module design currently.
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Kuo: iPhone 17 Models Won't Have Smaller Dynamic Island
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The Dynamic Island is software. The cutout is hardware. The cutout can get smaller without the Dynamic Island changing in size. The article is unclear and the terms used are confusing.
I simply do not believe they will get rid of the Dynamic Island or change the camera to that nice but very incorrect render.
I love the Dynamic Island. If there wasn’t a cut out, I’d still like it to stay. So many other (Android) manufacturers include it now. The play store even has an app to make one. That’s how we know they turned an eyesore into a winning feature.
The vertical camera array (when you hold the phone to take videos) will not work for spatial video.
They won’t do it.
It has to accommodate three large lenses. I’m curious if the regular 17 will get that horizontal camera bar as well with two lenses?
I like the Dynamic Island so the lack of change doesn't bother me.
Apple competing with itself to see how boring they can make a new phone launch and still get bites. Happy to keep my 13 Pro Max through another generation, but baffled if they’re pocketing this easy win for next year.
am I the only one who doesnt' care?
seriously, the menu bar is present at al times anyway with the battery , wifi , and time . and in the case of movies, most are shot in 16:9 anyway
I still prefer the dynamic island over the notch, because it is more ..dynamic , and useful
I just went from a s10 to iphone 13 pro and it doesnt bother me to the slightest (I do however have ergonomics issues that are way more annoying and that I think apple should focus on, namely the back gesture which is so inconcistent and terrible egonomically )
seriously, the menu bar is present at al times anyway with the battery , wifi , and time . and in the case of movies, most are shot in 16:9 anyway
I still prefer the dynamic island over the notch, because it is more ..dynamic , and useful
I just went from a s10 to iphone 13 pro and it doesnt bother me to the slightest (I do however have ergonomics issues that are way more annoying and that I think apple should focus on, namely the back gesture which is so inconcistent and terrible egonomically )
Apple has all the power and influence over their users. Brilliant at maximizing profits by keeping changes and improvements to a minimum they reach their revenue goals year after year. Masters at making people wait for changes, their shareholders celebrate.
I agree that a horizontal row of cameras might actually result in more photos and videos taken in landscape mode, but it seems just as likely that people used to shooting everything in portrait mode might just stick with it and won't bother to press even a clearly-labeled onscreen button to switch between portrait and landscape.
Shooting spatial landscape-oriented photos and videos with the phone held in portrait orientation is going to take some getting used to for people (though not many yet) who have become used to shooting them using the iPhone's landscape orientation, due to the relatively tiny viewfinder image that will be shown, squeezed between the left and right vertical sides of the screen. Maybe the entire iPhone screen will pop forward and rotate to landscape orientation.
I'm guessing that people will still be able to shoot non-spatial landscape photos and videos with the phone held in landscape orientation, but who knows these days?
I've read different opinions from people who shoot spatial photos and videos as to the degree of the stereoscopic effect they see from the iPhone Pro/Max's current closely-aligned upper and lower cameras (about 19mm). Some people say the depth is just like looking at the subject in person, while other people say the depth is greatly reduced. I don't know what to make of that difference in perception. But as you say, this rumored horizontal camera layout will probably bring the stereoscopic effect more inline with what we see with our eyes, but there isn't enough width on the back of the iPhone to place the left and right cameras far enough apart to actually match the average person's interpupillary distance of about 63mm. My IPD is about 64mm, and when I place the center of the left lens of my eyeglasses over the upper left lens on the back of my iPhone 15 Pro Max, the center of my right glasses lens sits several mm past the right edge of the phone housing. With the horizontal across-the-top layout shown in the rumor photos, the distance between the centers of the left and right cameras would be closer to 46-47mm, if Apple is unable to reduce the diameter of the external housing ring around each lens in order to place them closer to the corners of the phone. Still, a lot better than the 19mm "IPD" of current iPhone Pros/Maxes.
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Would have liked to see it this year at least on the Pro Max. But with all the other design changes which are quite significant, Apple might have kept it aside for the 18 Pro models.
I’m expecting the design change, they’ve been forced into it after bad China sales and bad media coverage of the 15/16 models.
I love the pixel design so if Apple does a version of it then I’ll be ecstatic after 6 years of the same tired design.
As for the island, of course I’d love it to go or shrink when not in use but I guess that’s for 2026 or 27.
No way we get a real design change and smaller island in the same year.
I love the pixel design so if Apple does a version of it then I’ll be ecstatic after 6 years of the same tired design.
As for the island, of course I’d love it to go or shrink when not in use but I guess that’s for 2026 or 27.
No way we get a real design change and smaller island in the same year.
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If me, I wouldn’t make it a button. I’ve got a whole screen to show images that appear on a landscape screen.
“Later when you watch this video on your TV or computer screen, do you want it to display like this (image A) or this (image B)? Image A would show a landscape screen filled edge to edge, representing capturing in landscape. Image B would show a “skinny” video with big black boxes left & right, representing portrait capture.
User clicks one and then captures video as they want to eventually see it. And then no amateur cinematographer should be surprised or frustrated later that their choice doesn’t fill their TV screen because they chose to shoot portrait.
Note this does not change watching on the phone or tablet. User who captured landscape will intuitively rotate the device because the video would be displaying “sideways” on playback. And user who chose portrait would see it fill the portrait-oriented screen without rotation.
Those who would have to change are the apparent minority- myself included- who have figured out how to hold the device to capture the kind of video we want to ultimately watch. But that seems like a group who can more readily adapt vs. the rest who seemed locked in on always holding the phone portrait, even after it is explained to them.
And yes, the same idea of showing a visual prompt would work “as is” too, instead advising user to rotate the iDevice itself if they ultimately want to view landscape video. If the triangle stays or a new camera bar runs DOWN the back instead of across it, such a simple prompt could help train the masses to adjust how they capture with end goal viewing in mind.
Are you me?!
Exactly. That’s the only design change that I’m actually looking forward to. So of course Apple is going to take their sweet time about it.
People complain about better battery life? Day-um. Some folks will complain about anything, won't they? I would welcome better battery life.
Now that's the kind of bull that wouldn't sit right with me.
Oh, hail yeah.
It won’t.
Oh, and dislike camera bumps all you want - but as far as camera bumps go, the Pixel 9’s looks better than the iPhones’.
Because it’s all about the look. Personally I go for function but we know have vane people are. Couldn’t care about the bumps.
For video (and iPhone continually has the best), spatial video is the future. And if you wanna go vertical shooting with a Pixel 9… well good on the Gen Z's.