Kuo: iPhone With Under-Screen Touch ID No Longer Likely Within Next Two Years

[MacRumors]

Apple is unlikely to release any iPhone models with under-screen Touch ID within the next two years, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a tweet today.

In a September 2021 research note, Kuo had predicted that Apple would launch at least one new iPhone model with an under-screen fingerprint scanner in the second half of 2023, but his latest tweet suggests this is unlikely to happen anymore.

"I previously predicted iPhones would support under-display fingerprint sensing/Touch ID in 2023 at the earliest," tweeted Kuo, an analyst at TF International Securities. "But the latest survey indicates new iPhones in 2023 & 2024 may not adopt under-display Touch ID. Face ID with a mask on iPhone is already a great biometrics solution."

Apple did test an under-screen fingerprint scanner for at least some iPhone 13 models, according to reports from The Wall Street Journal's Joanna Stern and Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, but Apple apparently decided not to move forward with the idea.

Under-screen Touch ID would have been most useful when Face ID did not work with masks, but iOS 15.4 introduced a new "Face ID with a Mask" feature on iPhone 12 models and newer. An argument could still be made that having both Face ID and under-screen Touch ID on an iPhone would provide customers with the best of both worlds, but Kuo's tweet suggests that will not happen for several years, if ever.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509186100719669250

There remains a possibility that Apple introduces an iPhone with Touch ID built into the power button, in line with the latest iPad Air and iPad mini models, but there haven't been any rumors to suggest that Apple plans to go down that avenue.

Article Link: Kuo: iPhone With Under-Screen Touch ID No Longer Likely Within Next Two Years

 

[Justin Cymbal]

Can’t wait for Apple to add this

It would be great to have both Touch ID and Face ID to use as a two-factor biometric authentication for users who want added security on certain apps or to even unlock their iPhone as well

 

[dantracht]

Face ID is here to stay folks. It’s not coming back to anything besides the SE.

 

[MayaUser]

no way KUO really?? i was sure you know nothing always make your flip the coin

 

[Caliber26]

How convenient. In a few months he’ll announce his predictions from a few days ago aren’t happening either.

 

[ilikewhey]

i don't care if its under the screen, it could have lock button scanner like the air and i would be interested.

 

[no_idea]

Lol…I predict an iPhone with a bionic arm that touches your wrist for biometric auth will be released sometime between 2025-2045

 

[webbuzz]

The rumors will continue though.

 

[bergmef]

I so hate Face ID, especially on iPads but on the phone too.

 

[LoveTo]

It’s been way too long now. I’ve already gotten accustomed to using FaceID in all situations. I don’t even miss TouchID anymore.

Note: This is just my personal opinion. Yours may differ. Peace. ✌?

 

[Paddle1]

I thought this said under-screen Face ID at first glance.

Wonder which will happen first, the return of Touch ID, or USB C?

 

[ian87w]

The fact that Apple developed unlocking with Apple Watch and FaceID with mask support already means that Apple is not interested in adding back TouchID. This is just Kuo backpedalling.

 

[code-m]

I so hate Face ID, especially on iPads but on the phone too.

You forgot the “/s” at the end of your comment. 😝

 

[code-m]

It’s been way too long now. I’ve already gotten accustomed to using FaceID in all situations. I don’t even miss TouchID anymore.

Note: This is just my personal opinion. Yours may differ. Peace. ✌🏻

TouchID on the Mac is fine but even the power button version is awkward to use. FaceID or better all the way.

 

[YankeeSR23]

Can’t wait for Apple to add this

It would be great to have both Touch ID and Face ID to use as a two-factor biometric authentication for users who want added security on certain apps or to even unlock their iPhone as well

Did you read the article?

It says the under glass Touch ID ISN’T going to happen, though since nothing is confirmed until it’s announced, Kuo could be wrong. Personally I hope he’s wrong as it would be helpful for some people to still use Touch ID even on a device that uses Face ID.

 

[code-m]

The fact that Apple developed unlocking with Apple Watch and FaceID with mask support already means that Apple is not interested in adding back TouchID. This is just Kuo backpedalling.

The issue with TouchID is that is require interaction and is not automatic like FaceID. As one is already staring at the screen to authenticate is quick even while wearing gloves in certain conditions whereas with TouchID one has to reach their thumb or finger to initiate an action and with gloves is just another added step.

 

[code-m]

Did you read the article?

It says the under glass Touch ID ISN’T going to happen, though since nothing is confirmed until it’s announced, Kuo could be wrong. Personally I hope he’s wrong as it would be helpful for some people to still use Touch ID even on a device that uses Face ID.

I was not holding my breath for under display or screen TouchID, if it happens it happens and no loss to most.

 

[incoherent_1]

While under screen Touch ID is flashy and cool, putting it inside the power button (like some iPad models) makes way more sense.

That said, Face ID seems unlikely to go away. I frankly don’t care for it, but with my Apple Watch, they’ve finally gotten the Unlock with AW working really well to the point it’s not a major concern.

 

[Justin Cymbal]

Did you read the article?

It says the under glass Touch ID ISN’T going to happen, though since nothing is confirmed until it’s announced, Kuo could be wrong. Personally I hope he’s wrong as it would be helpful for some people to still use Touch ID even on a device that uses Face ID.

Yeah, the article says it’s not going to happen within the next two years but doesn’t say if it might happen after that. So hopefully Apple does eventually add it

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Samsung was able to pull it off just fine. Why is it so hard for Apple. By the time Apple decides to add the feature it might be too late.

 

[subi257]

The rumors will continue though.

Even on MacRumors!

 

[ian87w]

Did you read the article?

It says the under glass Touch ID ISN’T going to happen, though since nothing is confirmed until it’s announced, Kuo could be wrong. Personally I hope he’s wrong as it would be helpful for some people to still use Touch ID even on a device that uses Face ID.

I believe the problem is that under display fingerprint sensor tech is not as reliable as capacitive sensor just yet. Optical ones are definitely slower, and ultrasonic ones still have reliability issues. Capacitive sensor is still the gold standard. If Apple decided to have under display TouchID, it has to at least be equal to the capacitive TouchID in terms of performance.

 

[mnsportsgeek]

Is this the same guy that thinks they're putting an M2 in an iPad and an M1 in the new macbook air at the same time?

 

[HiVolt]

Can’t wait for Apple to add this

It would be great to have both Touch ID and Face ID to use as a two-factor biometric authentication for users who want added security on certain apps or to even unlock their iPhone as well

Yeah that would be great for things like financial apps. I'm actually surprised that this isn't an option in settings for any app that you might want to extra secure access too, like if you just hand someone your phone to look something up, they shouldnt be able to open your email or messenger apps, etc... It would be nice to have either FaceID or TouchID pop up.

 

[falkon-engine]

Was it ever likely?