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Apples development timescales are ridiculous. 2 years for the next MBP when the current one has so many issues. Still waiting on a Mac Pro replacement more than 2 years after it was announced. Cutting edge stuff is fine for consumer stuff, but for the Pro product lines there is no need to reinvent the wheel. I was happy with the 2010 form factor MBP as it was thick enough to have a decent keyboard and these strange things called ports. It also had a matte screen option and the ability to swap out storage and RAM. Okay, it needed a better cooling solution, but other than that it wasn't broken.
 
Ming says something so it must be true as he gazes into his crystal ball from his circus tent.
 
My bet is they need more time for the new MacBook Pro for a revised keyboard after all the complaints and now an apology by them.
 
That 6K display is going to cost upward of $2K, if it even exists at all. But Apple has released some very high-end and expensive displays in the past, so that wouldn't be completely unusual.
 
I don't wanna say it, but I told you so. Everyone was saying ohh 2019 is the redesign year and now look. This is why I said 2018 was still a recommended buy. Its kinda hilarious watching and browsing these forums to see peoples reactions on this as well. Best of luck to everyone waiting another 3 years lol.
 
Tim Cook never cared for innovation, it died with Steve Jobs.

keyboard change will take another year, its not that easy for them to overhaul or have complete design change.

Just go back to the 2015 MacBook Pro keyboard design! No big effort needed here.

The real issue is the case as they need to go to a thicker design to support the hotter running current i9 and next gen Intel CPU's. Is Apple brave enough to do that? Breaking the Twiggy matra: Thin, Thin, Thin they've been stuck on.
 
Apples development timescales are ridiculous. 2 years for the next MBP when the current one has so many issues. Still waiting on a Mac Pro replacement more than 2 years after it was announced. Cutting edge stuff is fine for consumer stuff, but for the Pro product lines there is no need to reinvent the wheel. I was happy with the 2010 form factor MBP as it was thick enough to have a decent keyboard and these strange things called ports. It also had a matte screen option and the ability to swap out storage and RAM. Okay, it needed a better cooling solution, but other than that it wasn't broken.

The pro line is still pro-sumer. They aren’t workstation laptops at all, and never have been.
I have had the 2010 model and the 2014 and 2016, and the latter was easily the best of them all. But that is my preference.
I don’t care for upgrading the internals either, I just upgrade the machine. It’s the apple way, and you are supporting the wrong brand if you don’t understand this. It isn’t going to change, and if you don’t like it I can guarantee you are going to be very disappointed with Apple. They are a consumer company not a ‘computer manufacturer’.
 
I'm still on an early 2013 13" MBP. If this rumour is true, it's likely that once again Apple won't be getting my money for another year (or two). Your loss Tim, my wallet thanks you.

The current generation is in too many ways a big uncomfortable stumble backwards to even consider an upgrade.

  • Untrustworthy and uncomfortable keyboard. I don't want the uncertainly of it failing and having to do without my Mac for a week or two to replace the damn thing. Ridiculous.
  • Unnecessary and uncomfortable emoji-bar. Why is this debacle not an option?
  • No nVidia GPU option. Preferred by 3D artists for CUDA operations.
  • No user replaceable SSD/Ram. Having to max out the hardware to future-proof the thing from day one means you have no choice but to pay their outrageous Apple-tax on BTO's.
  • No more glowing Apple logo (it's like taking the Star off of a Mercedes. It matters.)
  • No start-up chime. Why entirely remove something so iconic instead of providing a preference setting?! Combined with the previous point, all this does is make the whole experience more mundane, like some boring Dell. It's probably to line it up with iPad aesthetics. Sad!
  • Trackpad is now so large your fingers have nowhere to go when at rest.
  • No backwards compatibility with peripheral devices = dongle hassle.
  • No anti-glare option.
  • Expensive.
  • Insultingly expensive when you start to BTO.
No. Just no!
 
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Dang. So does this mean I should stop waiting for a new MBP unless I want to wait 2 more years?

I was waiting myself, but after looking at the intel roadmap for processors I decided Apple was at the very least another year away. Just took delivery of a 15" MBP, 32 GBs of RAM, 2 TB of storage and Vega20 graphics. Loving it so far.
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I'm still on an early 2013 13" MBP. If this rumour is true, it's likely that once again Apple won't be getting my money for another year (or two). Your loss Tim, my wallet thanks you.

The current generation are in too many ways a big uncomfortable stumble backwards to even consider an upgrade.

  • Untrustworthy and uncomfortable keyboard. I don't want the uncertainly of it failing and having to do without my Mac for a week or two to replace the damn thing. Ridiculous.
  • Unnecessary and uncomfortable emoji-bar. Why is this debacle not an option?
  • No nVidia GPU option. Preferred by 3D artists for CUDA operations.
  • No user replaceable SSD/Ram. Having to max out the hardware to future-proof the thing from day one means you have no choice but to pay their outrageous Apple-tax on BTO's.
  • No more glowing Apple logo (it's like taking the Star off of a Mercedes. It matters.)
  • No start-up chime. Why entirely remove something so iconic instead of providing a preference setting?! Combined with the previous point, all this does is make the whole experience more mundane, like some boring Dell. It's probably to line it up with iPad aesthetics. Sad!
  • Trackpad is now so large your fingers have nowhere to go when at rest.
  • No backwards compatibility with peripheral devices = dongle hassle.
  • No anti-glare option.
  • Expensive.
  • Insultingly expensive when you start to BTO.
No. Just no!

I'm with you on the keyboard. Worries me like crazy. Apple has to know that they are doing damage. One of the rare times I am not too confident with my purchase. And my new laptop was around $4,500. I would have liked the option to replace the storage and the memory as well. Apple is getting a little too closed with this thing. Don't mind AMD at all. Everything is going USB-C and Thunderbold 3. Dongle hell isn't really dongle hell. There are single devices that hook up and provide power and ports. It's not a big deal in my opinion.
 
I'm still on an early 2013 13" MBP. If this rumour is true, it's likely that once again Apple won't be getting my money for another year (or two). Your loss Tim, my wallet thanks you.

The current generation are in too many ways a big uncomfortable stumble backwards to even consider an upgrade.

  • Untrustworthy and uncomfortable keyboard. I don't want the uncertainly of it failing and having to do without my Mac for a week or two to replace the damn thing. Ridiculous.
  • Unnecessary and uncomfortable emoji-bar. Why is this debacle not an option?
  • No nVidia GPU option. Preferred by 3D artists for CUDA operations.
  • No user replaceable SSD/Ram. Having to max out the hardware to future-proof the thing from day one means you have no choice but to pay their outrageous Apple-tax on BTO's.
  • No more glowing Apple logo (it's like taking the Star off of a Mercedes. It matters.)
  • No start-up chime. Why entirely remove something so iconic instead of providing a preference setting?! Combined with the previous point, all this does is make the whole experience more mundane, like some boring Dell. It's probably to line it up with iPad aesthetics. Sad!
  • Trackpad is now so large your fingers have nowhere to go when at rest.
  • No backwards compatibility with peripheral devices = dongle hassle.
  • No anti-glare option.
  • Expensive.
  • Insultingly expensive when you start to BTO.
No. Just no!

Why should they build the computer you want over the one I want?
That’s right, they build the computer they want, and you can choose whether to buy it or not. Very simple.
 
As someone who understand Chinese, the article didn't say Apple will only update MacBook Pro in late 2020.
It is saying Apple will use Mini LED technology for the following product in the timeframe below.
- 31.6 inch Mini LED display in late 2019
- 10 to 12 inch iPad with Mini LED display in late 2020 to early 2021
- 15 to 15 inch MacBook Pro with Mini LED display in early 2021
 
Did not have time to read through the seven pages of comments, so what I am going to say may have been covered by someone already.

I think there are some subtle mis-translation. According to this page: https://money.udn.com/money/story/5612/3744412 (the page quoted by this MacRumor article), everything refers to laptops/minotors with mini LED. So it's not that Apple will not have a new laptop until 2021. It's that the laptop with mini LED will be out in 2021. The article does not rule out new laptops with different LED technology before 2021.
 
17" MacBook Pro would be the Holy Grail. I'm still using my 2010 17" MacBook, which is by far the best Apple product I've ever had.
 
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Why should they build the computer you want over the one I want?
That’s right, they build the computer they want, and you can choose whether to buy it or not. Very simple.

As should be clear from my post, I have chosen to not buy it for the last 5 years. But sure, let's never express our product desires and needs publicly, leaving companies blind as to why their clients aren't upgrading. :rolleyes:
 
Not that I completely trust these guys, but if he's right ... ugh. Have to wait until 2021 for a reliable keyboard? Good thing I just added AppleCare to my refurbed 2015 - that should cover me to 2021.
 
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