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Kuo: Only iPhone 14 Pro Models to Get 'A16' Chip, Standard Models to Retain A15
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TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️
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@Hartley Thank you for confirming this. Well, this is settled.
when he first posted to twitter macrumors said they were able to verify it was him independently so i don't know. perhaps they cant fabricate enough A16 this year due to some supply side constraint so this is a way of reducing the need?
Absolutely not. The M1 is a pro version of an A14, and the iPhone does not need the multicore boost that an M1 provides. The A15 has about the same single core performance as an M1 chip anyway.
Not to mention, an M1 would absolutely melt an iPhone!
Regardless of the ability to verify this twitter account, the TSMC 3nm node is well known to be delayed. If A16 is using 3nm, and not 4nm (really 5nm with very minor differences) that is rumored to go into M2, then this rumor actually makes sense. Mass production and packaging of 3nm will start later in the cycle (Q4), and Apple won't have as much chips as normal. Better to use them just in high-end vs waiting an entire year for A17.
Anyone with thoughts on how else Apple will handle the 3nm delay?
Anyone with thoughts on how else Apple will handle the 3nm delay?
yeah but MacRumors did:
"Update: MacRumors was initially unable to verify that the @mingchikuo account belonged to Ming-Chi Kuo, but we had no reason to doubt its authenticity beyond the unprecedented nature of a tweet of this kind. Kuo subsequently confirmed to MacRumors that he is the owner of the account."
Dear YAL, I think I have explained this a hundred times in other blogs, but I’ll try again. Each SoC is designed to fit on a different device according to the thermal disipation that an envelope (a structure) can provide, the spike power a battery can provide, and other factors. You cannot put a 12-15W SoC inside an iPhone, the best suited SoC for a smartphone is an 5W SoC like the A15 SoC, for instance .This are not real numbers of power, just estimations.
There are reasons why they cannot put an A14X (the M1) inside an iPhone, and reasons why we don’t actually need to.
There is no 3nm from TSMC till 2023.
The A16 is based on TSMC 4nm which began production Q4 last year.
The difference is that there is more competition this time on the TSMC new node compared TSMC 5nm when it launched back in 2020.
Both Mediatek 9000 (rumor Qualcomm SD 8G1+ too) and Intel 4 are competing on same TSMC 4nm node.
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Really can’t see this, a new chip generation is the cornerstone of a new iPhone generation. If the 14/Max get the A15, they will still be part of the 15th generation of iPhones with the 13/mini/Pro/Max.
Am more disappointed that the camera sensors will still be the old 12Mpx, according to last days rumors. Let's hope they do indeed go for 48Mpx or other...
I was looking to upgrade from my 11 Pro to 14 Pro but that way, will wait another year for the 15 Pro (doesn't sound good, time to change the naming right?)...
I was looking to upgrade from my 11 Pro to 14 Pro but that way, will wait another year for the 15 Pro (doesn't sound good, time to change the naming right?)...
TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️
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Thank you for sharing your insight. You made valid points.
I thought Apple was working on developing its own chip?
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So same chip, same camera sensor, still USB 2.0 Lightning port...
I'm really hoping there's something "game-changing" about these phones. So far not expecting much.
Makes total sense, the A15 is so far ahead of the competition. Samsung can't keep up. There is no reason for them to keep innovating on processing power.
1. They have more than enough.
2. Competition can't keep up anyway.
Better to spend resources elsewhere.
1. They have more than enough.
2. Competition can't keep up anyway.
Better to spend resources elsewhere.
Don’t worry, Quo has got you covered.
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Kuo's official website links to this Twitter account.
Wait what? This is the only reason I'm holding out and not getting a 12. Is I thought this next one was going to be a major camera update. I'm well overdue... ****.
Are you trying to be this wrong? LOL.
This would be the first time Apple’s ever done this… Not saying it won’t just that it’s completely out of character and would break with the each-chip-represents-each-gen trend that started with the original iPhone.
Only the iPhone 14 Pro models will have the "A16" chip, while the standard iPhone 14 models will retain the A15 Bionic chip from the iPhone 13, according to insightful Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.
In a tweet, Kuo said that the 6.1-inch "iPhone 14 Pro" and the 6.7-inch "iPhone 14 Pro Max" will get the A16 chip, while the 6.1-inch "iPhone 14" and the 6.7-inch "iPhone 14 Max" will retain the same A15 chip from the iPhone 13 lineup.
The two more affordable iPhone models retaining the same chip as the previous year could be a major new point of differentiation between the standard and "Pro" iPhone models. Going forward, it seems plausible that Apple could only offer a new chip with the "Pro" models, before it subsequently trickles down to the two cheaper iPhone models the following year.
Kuo added that all four of the iPhone 14 models are likely to come with 6GB of memory, with the standard iPhone 14 models having LPDDR 4X memory and the iPhone 14 Pro models having LPDDR 5 memory.
Currently, the iPhone 13 mini and iPhone 13 feature 4GB of memory, while the iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max feature 6GB of memory. These amounts are unchanged from the iPhone 12 lineup. For the iPhone 14 lineup, Kuo suggests that all models will feature 6GB of RAM, but the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max's LPDDR 5 memory will be up to one and a half times faster and up to 30 percent more power efficient.
Kuo's claim stands in contrast to a rumor from Haitong International Securities' Jeff Pu, which suggested suggested the iPhone 14 Pro models will feature 8GB of RAM, the same amount as the Samsung Galaxy S22 models. That being said, Pu has a mixed track record with Apple rumors. For example, he accurately claimed that 16-inch MacBook Pro and iPad Pro models with mini-LED displays would launch in 2021, but he was incorrect about HomePods with 3D sensing cameras launching in 2019. This may bring the 8GB RAM rumor into question now that Kuo, a more established analyst in the Apple space with a better track record, is claiming otherwise.
Article Link: Kuo: Only iPhone 14 Pro Models to Get 'A16' Chip, Standard Models to Retain A15
There is no way the iPhone 14 is going to have the same processor as the budget 2022 iPhone SE. iPhone is still a premium product but also a mature product where it gets harder and harder to innovate, adding a new chip helps motivate people to upgrade and makes it easier to market.
I hope the Pro gets 8GB RAM, especially if 8K becomes a thing.
I hope the Pro gets 8GB RAM, especially if 8K becomes a thing.